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 Post subject: Re: I DID IT! Share your latest 1CCs/other triumphs here...
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:03 am 



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Shepardus wrote:
Congrats on the 1CC!
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As for the next game, what do you guys recommend? Should I go for DoDonpachi? DoDonpachi Daioujou?

From the horizontal ones, where should I begin (haven't played any of them yet).

There's many avenues you could explore that I'm not going to bother listing now, but Dodonpachi is a solid next choice. After all, it is one of the most influential games on the shmup genre, and it still holds up today as one of the most highly-regarded bullet hells.

For horizontal shooters, it depends on what you're looking for. For something in the vein of Irem's R-Type series and Konami's Gradius series, with their checkpoints and environmental hazards and whatnot, then, well... play those games. Also try X-Multiply (also by Irem, similar style to R-Type but a bit easier). If you play Gradius then try Gradius 1, 2 or Gaiden (for Gaiden you'll need a PS1 or PSP emulator unless you've got one of those consoles). Gradius 3 and 4 are notoriously difficult. I've heard Gradius 5 is good but it's only on PS2 and I've heard it's also quite difficult. There's also the Parodius series, of which Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius (PS1/Saturn/PSP) and Sexy Parodius are probably the most accessible. Maybe the SNES version of Gokujou Parodius too, but I've never played that. The other arcade Parodius games (Parodius Da, Gokujou Parodius) are also great, but more brutal in their difficulty.

The Darius series is also popular on this forum. Darius Gaiden and G.Darius are probably the most popular, though the more recent Dariusburst Chronicle Saviours (on Steam, PS4, and PS Vita) is also recommended. Darius in general is more boss-focused and not as heavy with environmental obstacles as the likes of R-Type or Gradius, but isn't quite bullet hell either.

If you want something more bullet hell, go for Progear. The bullet cancelling mechanics make it play somewhat differently from your typical bullet hell, but aside from that it's right at home with the other bullet hells you've played, just turned horizontal. There's also Deathsmiles, which doesn't emulate great in MAME just yet but there are Steam and Xbox 360 ports (the Xbox port being the best version if you can get your hands on it - I'm not sure if they fixed the slowdown issues in the PC port?).



The best part of your post is that you said that you wouldn't bother listing anything and yet you gave me a pretty big list.

SOme very interesting games there. As a matter of fact, I have access to Gradius Gaiden on my PSP, maybe I'll try it. Gradius 1 and 2 I think I can emulate easily, so they might be good picks as well.

Parodius is a series that seems extremely nice (at least the bosses I saw looks amazing), and I definitely plan to give it a go at some point.

Since a lot of the games you recommended are available on Steam, I might get them all already as well!

Thanks for the post, I'll certainly try to play all of those games at some point.


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Congrats on your first arcade clear! Stage 4 and 5 can be really tricky at times. Good job.

Have you played the Japan or the US version of Donpachi?

How many hours did it take you?

Instead of listing some new titles (Shepardus already did a great job here), I also want to suggest thinking about highscore chasing. Clearing is one thing, but playing for score makes you appreciate the game on a whole different level (and we have a whole sub-forum dedicated to that). Moreover, keep in mind, that Donpachi has 2 loops, so you could also aim for a 2-ALL.

There are many ways to go from here on. Looking forward to your next posts! :D


Thanks for the congratulations! :D I've played the US version of Donpachi (on Mame). Is there a lot of differences between them?

Counting practice and full runs, it took me maybe 10 or 11 hours. Funnily enough, I have being playing Donpachi for at least 2 weeks, but was going just 1 credit per day and without any kind of credit feeding. In my twisted mind, I thought that at some point I'd be able to magically pull a 1cc off of it. Then, 2 days ago, I finally got to mid stage 4 and the truth just appeared to me: If I didn't practice seriously, I'd never beat the game. So I made save states and started going over and over through stages 4 and 5 (since 1 to 3 were pretty consistent for me at this point).

Two things that I realized that were a game changer was:

1) Changing fromanalog stick to D-Pad. With analog I didn't have the precision I wanted and got some pretty dumb deaths. The 1CC run was the second I tried on D-Pad (with the first being a really close one), so I think that helps a lot in my case.

2) Changing my bomb button from circle to R1. I was using the default X for shooting and circle for bombing. Then, I began to notice that there was some bombs that just didn't activate because of my fingers position. Using R1 solved it, and in the 1CC run I didn't have any deaths for failed bombs (happened a lot earlier).


Finally, speaking of scoring, I admit that although I don't have a lot of knowledge on the subject, just to think about it makes me a little anxious. Let me explain it: I used to (still do sometimes) do speedruns, and I always got really frustrated when I had to restart because I've made some dumb mistake. I feel like highscoring is similar. Granted, everything I know about scoring comes from the "Full Extent of the Jam", but I feel that it is something really stressful, and I'd probably get more frustrated than have fun. Playing for survival, at least for now, seems more fun for me because I don't need to look for other people's videos to look for the best routes to optimize the scoring and such. Also, even though some mistakes can be harsh (like dying with a full bomb stock), you can always recover, which isn't true (again, for what I've read) if you lose a 300 combo.

But a 2-All is something I'm definitely eager to try, but maybe not now. The few stages I saw from Loop 2 made me crazy, the amount of bullets is enerving. :lol:


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Donpachi's US version is significantly easier than the Japanese version, so maybe you can try clearing the Japanese version next. :wink: Much of what you've learned already should carry over, I said it's harder but it's not like you have to relearn the whole game. The Hong Kong version is even harder but that version's kind of silly and hardly anyone plays it.

I personally recommend playing for survival and engaging with the score system when you find it fun, until you've covered some breadth and have a good idea of what you like and dislike. If you're going to spend dozens, even hundreds of hours chasing score in a single game, it should at least be a game you especially love.
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Shepardus wrote:
Donpachi's US version is significantly easier than the Japanese version, so maybe you can try clearing the Japanese version next. :wink: Much of what you've learned already should carry over, I said it's harder but it's not like you have to relearn the whole game. The Hong Kong version is even harder but that version's kind of silly and hardly anyone plays it.

I personally recommend playing for survival and engaging with the score system when you find it fun, until you've covered some breadth and have a good idea of what you like and dislike. If you're going to spend dozens, even hundreds of hours chasing score in a single game, it should at least be a game you especially love.

You mean this?
"RANK 2(NORMAL)" US/JP
"RANK 4(VERY HARD)" HK

I believe Progear has the same thing:
Rank 8(Asia)
Rank 4(JP)
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LichbannMejolaro wrote:
Plasmo wrote:
Congrats on your first arcade clear! Stage 4 and 5 can be really tricky at times. Good job.

Have you played the Japan or the US version of Donpachi?

How many hours did it take you?

Instead of listing some new titles (Shepardus already did a great job here), I also want to suggest thinking about highscore chasing. Clearing is one thing, but playing for score makes you appreciate the game on a whole different level (and we have a whole sub-forum dedicated to that). Moreover, keep in mind, that Donpachi has 2 loops, so you could also aim for a 2-ALL.

There are many ways to go from here on. Looking forward to your next posts! :D


Thanks for the congratulations! :D I've played the US version of Donpachi (on Mame). Is there a lot of differences between them?

Counting practice and full runs, it took me maybe 10 or 11 hours. Funnily enough, I have being playing Donpachi for at least 2 weeks, but was going just 1 credit per day and without any kind of credit feeding. In my twisted mind, I thought that at some point I'd be able to magically pull a 1cc off of it. Then, 2 days ago, I finally got to mid stage 4 and the truth just appeared to me: If I didn't practice seriously, I'd never beat the game. So I made save states and started going over and over through stages 4 and 5 (since 1 to 3 were pretty consistent for me at this point).

Two things that I realized that were a game changer was:

1) Changing fromanalog stick to D-Pad. With analog I didn't have the precision I wanted and got some pretty dumb deaths. The 1CC run was the second I tried on D-Pad (with the first being a really close one), so I think that helps a lot in my case.

2) Changing my bomb button from circle to R1. I was using the default X for shooting and circle for bombing. Then, I began to notice that there was some bombs that just didn't activate because of my fingers position. Using R1 solved it, and in the 1CC run I didn't have any deaths for failed bombs (happened a lot earlier).


Finally, speaking of scoring, I admit that although I don't have a lot of knowledge on the subject, just to think about it makes me a little anxious. Let me explain it: I used to (still do sometimes) do speedruns, and I always got really frustrated when I had to restart because I've made some dumb mistake. I feel like highscoring is similar. Granted, everything I know about scoring comes from the "Full Extent of the Jam", but I feel that it is something really stressful, and I'd probably get more frustrated than have fun. Playing for survival, at least for now, seems more fun for me because I don't need to look for other people's videos to look for the best routes to optimize the scoring and such. Also, even though some mistakes can be harsh (like dying with a full bomb stock), you can always recover, which isn't true (again, for what I've read) if you lose a 300 combo.

But a 2-All is something I'm definitely eager to try, but maybe not now. The few stages I saw from Loop 2 made me crazy, the amount of bullets is enerving. :lol:

Did you say "Analog Stick"? You even mention the buttons Circle and R1. You are playing the PSX ports.
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Goompaolo9500 wrote:
You mean this?
"RANK 2(NORMAL)" US/JP
"RANK 4(VERY HARD)" HK

I believe Progear has the same thing:
Rank 8(Asia)
Rank 4(JP)
Rank 2(US)

No, even if you adjust the difficulty settings on the regional variants the difficulty is still different. Same thing goes for Progear (I remember someone mentioning this to you before in the Progear score thread).
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Goompaolo9500 wrote:
LichbannMejolaro wrote:
Plasmo wrote:
Congrats on your first arcade clear! Stage 4 and 5 can be really tricky at times. Good job.

Have you played the Japan or the US version of Donpachi?

How many hours did it take you?

Instead of listing some new titles (Shepardus already did a great job here), I also want to suggest thinking about highscore chasing. Clearing is one thing, but playing for score makes you appreciate the game on a whole different level (and we have a whole sub-forum dedicated to that). Moreover, keep in mind, that Donpachi has 2 loops, so you could also aim for a 2-ALL.

There are many ways to go from here on. Looking forward to your next posts! :D


Thanks for the congratulations! :D I've played the US version of Donpachi (on Mame). Is there a lot of differences between them?

Counting practice and full runs, it took me maybe 10 or 11 hours. Funnily enough, I have being playing Donpachi for at least 2 weeks, but was going just 1 credit per day and without any kind of credit feeding. In my twisted mind, I thought that at some point I'd be able to magically pull a 1cc off of it. Then, 2 days ago, I finally got to mid stage 4 and the truth just appeared to me: If I didn't practice seriously, I'd never beat the game. So I made save states and started going over and over through stages 4 and 5 (since 1 to 3 were pretty consistent for me at this point).

Two things that I realized that were a game changer was:

1) Changing fromanalog stick to D-Pad. With analog I didn't have the precision I wanted and got some pretty dumb deaths. The 1CC run was the second I tried on D-Pad (with the first being a really close one), so I think that helps a lot in my case.

2) Changing my bomb button from circle to R1. I was using the default X for shooting and circle for bombing. Then, I began to notice that there was some bombs that just didn't activate because of my fingers position. Using R1 solved it, and in the 1CC run I didn't have any deaths for failed bombs (happened a lot earlier).


Finally, speaking of scoring, I admit that although I don't have a lot of knowledge on the subject, just to think about it makes me a little anxious. Let me explain it: I used to (still do sometimes) do speedruns, and I always got really frustrated when I had to restart because I've made some dumb mistake. I feel like highscoring is similar. Granted, everything I know about scoring comes from the "Full Extent of the Jam", but I feel that it is something really stressful, and I'd probably get more frustrated than have fun. Playing for survival, at least for now, seems more fun for me because I don't need to look for other people's videos to look for the best routes to optimize the scoring and such. Also, even though some mistakes can be harsh (like dying with a full bomb stock), you can always recover, which isn't true (again, for what I've read) if you lose a 300 combo.

But a 2-All is something I'm definitely eager to try, but maybe not now. The few stages I saw from Loop 2 made me crazy, the amount of bullets is enerving. :lol:

Did you say "Analog Stick"? You even mention the buttons Circle and R1. You are playing the PSX ports.


I use a PS3 joystick on PC. :wink:


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Played Gradius (FC) over the last few days hoping for a 1-ALL/1CC, but ended up getting a 1-ALL/1LC instead. :wink:

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This was the 3rd time I reached the last stage, and previously I got there without losing any lives in one, and losing just one in the other, but was absolutely murdered in that final stage while using laser. Of all those lives lost, only on one did I manage to survive long enough to see the boss's door starting to close, but never made it there.
I was going to try Double on the second run, but I forgot to cycle the power bar to it before the stage, and was stuck with laser. Finally got Double in this run, and cleared the loop, though not without some worry.
About 2/3rds through the stage the shield ran out, and I had been too scared to get too close to either the ceiling or the floor to properly replenish the power-up bar (too may of those walker spawning), but thankfully it all worked out. :lol:

Lost a life on 2-1 immediatelly, and another on the same stage's boss -- as I learned the hard way, he shoots a bullet every so often on loop 2, and I was used to point-blanking him, so I died. Lost some 5~6 lives after that, and the rest on the next stage. To be fair, a good part of these were lost, because I wasn't too bothered to try the 2nd loop fully at this time, but certainly intend to do so in the future.

Unfortunately, ended up skipping stage 4 due to the warp thing -- I didn't know the conditions at the time, and it leaves a sour taste in my mouth for not having gone through all the stages.
This is my least favourite aspect of this port, as I think that they should have implemented the warping mechanic in a way you can't accidentally trigger.

Anyway, pretty happy though, as this marks my first classic (ie. non-danmaku) STG clear. :wink:


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Just got my first 2-loop clear of an arcade game. EDIT: Errr, oops, I forgot I cleared Raiga: Strato Fighter, a 2-loop shmup. Unfortunately... it's not a shmup. However it is a very solid run 'n gun with an interesting dash attack mechanic. For offense it's iffy, however you can immediately cancel out of a dash, and the recovery animation is invulnerable, so you can use it to dodge! It's unusual to see a run 'n gun game with such a powerful evasion mechanic.

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Goompaolo9500 wrote:
You mean this?
"RANK 2(NORMAL)" US/JP
"RANK 4(VERY HARD)" HK

I believe Progear has the same thing:
Rank 8(Asia)
Rank 4(JP)
Rank 2(US)


Is Progear actually harder on the JP version? I know Giga Wing is setup similarly where the difficulty is one setting in Japanese, and another in the US version, but is it possible the US difficulty 2 is equivalent to JP's 4? I.E. the max difficulty setting is harder in the US is harder than the max difficulty setting in Japanese so arcade operators in the US who wanted a credit feeder could crank up the difficulty higher than even on the JP boards...?

Shepardus wrote:
No, even if you adjust the difficulty settings on the regional variants the difficulty is still different. Same thing goes for Progear (I remember someone mentioning this to you before in the Progear score thread).


Whoops, missed this. What was adjusted in difficulty? I should comparing an input replay to see where it desyncs, that might give some clues on what was tweaked...

Moo Mesa has essentially two versions: EA, AA (which are identical in gameplay, input replay in one syncs in the other), and UAB/UAC (presumably the US versions). The UAB/UAC are set to the same difficulty as the other versions, but it actually starts off at second-loop difficulty for stages (more enemies, slightly harder bosses), which is very odd. The UAB/UAC versions also have defaults set bizarrely: loops endlessly, less life stock by default, disabled level select, etc. - Konami had a habit of making unnecessary changes to the US versions of their games which made them harder and more credit-feedy...
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I've been playing through the Gradius series lately. When I first got to Gradius III Arcade I was satisfied with simply clearing the "Beginner" mode, but I found myself frequently coming back to it to play some credits. Eventually I got the proper 1-ALL and by that point I was enjoying it enough to go for a 2-ALL as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftBgmOImGiw

This run nearly became a trainwreck, though! After I died in 2-7 I didn't put any care into when I was activating my options, which meant I had no clue where the Option Hunter was going to appear. I figured it wouldn't matter as I'd die to the cube rush and the Option Hunter would be reset there. However, that didn't happen as the cube rush graciously offered me a free pass and I greedily took it. This led to the Option Hunter taking me by surprise, giving me a lot of trouble in the final stage.
I still managed to flail my way to the end in spite of all that, but that sure made things more tense than it needed to be. :P


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Yes! :D

1CC - Scramble (Arcade / M.A.M.E.) - without cheats and auto-fire.

I did not expect it. Next time I'll try to make a video/inp.

23790...

Great game.

EDIT1:

1CC again.

Almost 2CC. What a stupid end!! :x :x

SDLMAME 0.193 has a problem with recordind a second loop in Scramble... Synchronization was lost, it seems.

The real end was different.

EDIT2:

Finally, damn hiscore plugin, it must be turned off... Sry, n00b.
Now it works well.

1CC again - 28130

Download: http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/9/b/1/nr ... ame193.zip
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Haven't posted in here for a while, but I've gotten DOJ White Label and Black Label 1-ALLs, Ketsui 1-ALL, Mushihimesama HD Original and Maniac 1-ALLs, and an SDOJ 1-ALL. Most of these are in the last year.

I really want to clear Gunbird 2 or Dragon Blaze but I haven't commited too much to my PS2 or Dreamcast setup. Waiting to see if the new year will bring me a cab, at which point I'll probably try to find PCBs.


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Thanks guys, it was quite the struggle! This and Battlantis were formidable nemeses, now they are but two husks amidst the mountain of felled shmups, laying firmly beneath my heels. Image :mrgreen:

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I don't understand why you bothered, but congratulations nonetheless!

Weeeeeeell, it was the last missing NMK game. Also, it is insanely aggravating yet I didn't hate it in the same way I abhor, say, Ghost Pilots, U.N. Defense Force, Gigandes, those ASO games or the Darwins, it's not entirely without merit. Also also, I have to concede that some mad ambition was part of it, too.

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The absolute madman, what will he clear next? Are there any Dooyong games that still need attention?

I've cleared all the Dooyong games a while ago, we're set on that front. Image As far as classic 1-ALLs are concerned, I've naught left except for SD Gundam Neo Battling which is unfortunately just as hard as Argus (albeit much better, it's stupendously difficult in the most nonchalant way imaginable, you're furthermore slaughtered by cute little robots which makes it surprisingly bearable). I ought to clear Rayforce (which I never really considered an oldschool shmup for some entirely subjective reason), too. Other than that, I can only think of a few subsequent loops when it comes to classic shmups. I'll probably find a handful more along the way, there are a few obscure (mostly pre-1987) specimens I haven't played at all or just for a brief moment which might prove trivial. However, I think there might be modernism in the future, I've recently even cleared the first loop of some modern Psikyo games (including Sol Divide Image) and the Normal Courses of Bakraid and Batrider, the latter of which was even enjoyable, an Advanced clear would be interesting, indeed.
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Perikles wrote:
I ought to clear Rayforce (which I never really considered an oldschool shmup for some entirely subjective reason), too.

It's not just you, that game does feel well ahead of its time, and I felt that way ever since I first saw it (which was Jaimers' 8-million clear; Jaimers mentioned the same thing in his video description). I can't quite phrase right now what makes it different, but its largish hitbox is the only thing about it that feels old-school to me.

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I'm sorry to hear that. :P I did try out that game for a little while, thinking I should at least give it a try in case its eccentricities turned out to be fun, like Space Bomber, but I couldn't stand it even for its extremely short length. It felt very random, or at least inconsistent, which didn't go well with the Psikyo-style enemy attacks. That and I already usually dislike melee systems in shmups (Dragon Blaze being one of the few exceptions, because its "melee" actually has a pretty substantial range and doesn't interrupt movement much).
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Melee attacks in later Psikyo games (e.g. Gunbird 2, Dragon Blaze) are very satisfying and visceral maneuvers. It helps that by around Strikers or Strikers 2 Nakamura and co. realized that waiting half a year to charge your special attack wasn't fun and sped up the process considerably.
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I did try out that game for a little while, thinking I should at least give it a try in case its eccentricities turned out to be fun, like Space Bomber, but I couldn't stand it even for its extremely short length. It felt very random, or at least inconsistent, which didn't go well with the Psikyo-style enemy attacks. That and I already usually dislike melee systems in shmups (Dragon Blaze being one of the few exceptions, because its "melee" actually has a pretty substantial range and doesn't interrupt movement much).

My Sol Divide experience had three distinct segments:

Phase 1: bah, this ain't no Tekkaman Blade! Why is it so hard fending off these knaves? Why am I dealing so little damage? Was it really a good idea implementing weird melee inputs into a game this clunky?

Phase 2: hmhmhm, this isn't so bad, after all. If you play with Tyora, you can forego all of this close range combat thanks to the powerful regular shot. If you just use the flame magic during dire situations and position yourself accordingly, crowd control isn't such a harrowing thing, either. And would you look at that, those boss fights are very controllable as well!

Phase 3: Jesus Christ almighty, why is every single one of those final bosses capable of taking away 60% of your health bar in a matter of milliseconds? Why is the final boss so goddamn cheap, spawning an endless supply of enemies right in front of you, even though you're more dead than alive and out of magic by that point? How am I supposed to react to those random patterns so quickly without guessing?


With a bit of patience, everything prior to that final stretch is at least serviceable, albeit still awkward. But that gauntlet is complete and utter bunk, all you can do is play one run after another and pray you get lucky.
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Perikles wrote:
Shepardus wrote:
I did try out that game for a little while, thinking I should at least give it a try in case its eccentricities turned out to be fun, like Space Bomber, but I couldn't stand it even for its extremely short length. It felt very random, or at least inconsistent, which didn't go well with the Psikyo-style enemy attacks. That and I already usually dislike melee systems in shmups (Dragon Blaze being one of the few exceptions, because its "melee" actually has a pretty substantial range and doesn't interrupt movement much).

My Sol Divide experience had three distinct segments:

Phase 1: bah, this ain't no Tekkaman Blade! Why is it so hard fending off these knaves? Why am I dealing so little damage? Was it really a good idea implementing weird melee inputs into a game this clunky?

Phase 2: hmhmhm, this isn't so bad, after all. If you play with Tyora, you can forego all of this close range combat thanks to the powerful regular shot. If you just use the flame magic during dire situations and position yourself accordingly, crowd control isn't such a harrowing thing, either. And would you look at that, those boss fights are very controllable as well!

Phase 3: Jesus Christ almighty, why is every single one of those final bosses capable of taking away 60% of your health bar in a matter of milliseconds? Why is the final boss so goddamn cheap, spawning an endless supply of enemies right in front of you, even though you're more dead than alive and out of magic by that point? How am I supposed to react to those random patterns so quickly without guessing?


With a bit of patience, everything prior to that final stretch is at least serviceable, albeit still awkward. But that gauntlet is complete and utter bunk, all you can do is play one run after another and pray you get lucky.

Go for loop 2 8)
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If you play with Tyora, you can forego all of this close range combat thanks to the powerful regular shot. If you just use the flame magic during dire situations and position yourself accordingly, crowd control isn't such a harrowing thing, either.

And then you realize you need to finish off enemies (especially bosses) with melee for scoring. Maybe that's why they hide the score from you for most of the game. :P

I recently got a new PB in Parodius Da! which took far too long to get (increased from 999,800 last February to 1,016,800 now). I also got past the first stage of the second loop for the first time in a different run (though that one fell short of a score update, at 999,200 points). There's still plenty of low-hanging fruit to improve my score (including checkpoint-milking, which I still have yet to successfully execute in a run), so I don't think I'm done with this game just yet (I at least want to top Seahawk's score to claim the top Vic Viper score on the forum), but I may shift my focus to other things for the time being. Among those things are a Gradius III 1-ALL (still have yet to get past the cube rush), Detana!! TwinBee (doubt I'll get far in the second loop but I can improve my first-loop score), and TwinBee Yahho! (want to get a full clear of Practice Mode). And maybe a Battlantis 1-ALL since my PB isn't actually that far away from it, but my performance in that game seems totally random.
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I'm surprised that no one has brought up Aine's melee attack in Sengoku Blade, that one is just so satisfying to see/hear while also being functionally amazing.

Also, congrats on the 1 million in Parodius Da! I think I'm gonna go for that 1-ALL (along with a return to Gradius 2) this year and see what all the fuss is about.
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Also, congrats on the 1 million in Parodius Da! I think I'm gonna go for that 1-ALL (along with a return to Gradius 2) this year and see what all the fuss is about.

It's like Battle Garegga except you only get two extends and there's a lot more slowdown.
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Looks like I missed some great stuff. Congrats to all who been gettin' those clears.:D
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WOO! Second arcade 1cc ever! R-Type 1-ALL achieved! Took maybe 3 weeks? 4 weeks? Something like that.
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Fucking dope LH. Knew you could do it.
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Fucking dope LH. Knew you could do it.

Thanks! I even got a mame input file, though I haven't checked to make sure that it didn't desync yet. I hope it didn't.
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