Radiant Silvergun 3 on Japanese Xbox 360 (???)

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:15 am

http://www.g-rev.com/Schedule/Xbox360/Jp/schedule.html

Listed at the very bottom of the page. Not yet confirmed by Treasure, but this is on G-rev's schedule list, and the first time the game Treasure is doing for the X360 has ever been termed "Radiant Silvergun 3" on a release schedule. Hmm...

SuperGrafx · Post by **SuperGrafx** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:19 am

Awesome news!

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:21 am

You know what, never mind. That's not Grev's website. Grev's site is www.grev.co.jp not www.g-rev.com .

It's probably just a rumor at this point, if you look at the other titles on that list there's a bunch of stuff that's just vaporware.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:25 am

Project RS3 overated?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:28 am

Rob wrote:Project RS3 overated?

For those who didn't care for the first two games, perhaps.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:37 am

I'd be really happy to see any notable shooter announced at this point. Dry spell.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:40 am

Well you're right about that. Console shmup releases have come to an abrupt halt.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:45 am

twe wrote:Well you're right about that. Console shmup releases have come to an abrupt halt.

Next gen is probably the cause of that. Developers are probably weighing up their options.
There's been plenty of nice stuff released over the past couple of years that I haven't really given enough time to, so a little dry spell is welcome at the moment.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:51 am

I'm choking you for posting this. Then I'm stabbing you. Rarrrrr

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:53 am

Note the three question marks in the title indicating uncertainty.

coffeejoerx · Post by **coffeejoerx** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:55 am

Well, if it's a true notice, I need to acquire a new videogame from this generation

.

dai jou bu · Post by **dai jou bu** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:36 am

Icarus wrote:Well you're right about that. Console shmup releases have come to an abrupt halt.

Mutant Storm Empire anyone? They're probably going to release this during the holiday season. =\

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:43 am

dai jou bu wrote:
Icarus wrote:Well you're right about that. Console shmup releases have come to an abrupt halt.
Mutant Storm Empire anyone? They're probably going to release this during the holiday season. =\

Might want to check your quotage there.

shinsage · Post by **shinsage** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:59 am

As long as Treasure's alive, you can always expect a shmup that has some connection with crystals and the codename Projest RS(insert#).
It will happen sooner or later.
Erm, most likely later, I'd say.

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:39 am

If they do anything, they better do it on a system that isn't expensive to get.

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:30 am

The developers & publishers have been having trouble getting past Sony & Microsoft's quality control. It would seem that these two companies don't think that shmups are next gen enough to make the grade. And that's probably why Gradius VI disappeared from the PS3's roster.

My solution would be to move them to the Wii. It's affordable and Nintendo isn't going overboard in the HD department. Hell, Metal Slug Anthology is a launch title, so that should prove that the big N still cares about 2D. http://wii.ign.com/objects/825/825884.html

dementia · Post by **dementia** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:40 pm

Alpolio wrote:The developers & publishers have been having trouble getting past Sony & Microsoft's quality control. It would seem that these two companies don't think that shmups are next gen enough to make the grade. And that's probably why Gradius VI disappeared from the PS3's roster.

My solution would be to move them to the Wii. It's affordable and Nintendo isn't going overboard in the HD department. Hell, Metal Slug Anthology is a launch title, so that should prove that the big N still cares about 2D. http://wii.ign.com/objects/825/825884.html

It's funny. Nine years ago, Hiroshi Iuchi was afraid there was no room for his dream 2D shooter in the 32-bit generation.

also Metal Slug Wii got delayed to January

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:26 pm

dementia wrote:
Alpolio wrote:The developers & publishers have been having trouble getting past Sony & Microsoft's quality control. It would seem that these two companies don't think that shmups are next gen enough to make the grade. And that's probably why Gradius VI disappeared from the PS3's roster.

My solution would be to move them to the Wii. It's affordable and Nintendo isn't going overboard in the HD department. Hell, Metal Slug Anthology is a launch title, so that should prove that the big N still cares about 2D. http://wii.ign.com/objects/825/825884.html
It's funny. Nine years ago, Hiroshi Iuchi was afraid there was no room for his dream 2D shooter in the 32-bit generation.

also Metal Slug Wii got delayed to January

A friend of mine swears that he saw Slug on the shelf at Best Buy last friday. He went there to buy Red Steel early and I asked him to look for it (and he gave me a call from the store). I didn't go get it because I didn't have a Wii pre-ordered like he did.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:44 pm

last i heard, the arcade division of treasure (the shmup boys) were working on a taito-type-X arcade game. that was in a british mag a couple of months ago. although the mag couldn't get to see anything on it. partly secrecy, and partly because the shmup boys apparently like to work only at night-time

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:10 pm

The only issue of developing for Nintendo is there high standings for required credentials. If you design a gme for their platform, you have to have an actual office of some sort. par for the course for the big names, but what if someone wanted to start with something new? I guess best to work with Microsoft and Sony's arcade setups, even if it pays little at all.
Eh, just rambling.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:33 pm

considering treasure made wario world, i don't think they'd have any worries there

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:36 pm

jpj wrote:considering treasure made wario world, i don't think they'd have any worries there

That definitely wasn't their finest work in my opinion. It was fun, granted, but... eh, it doesn't hold up well against the incredible GB and GBA Wario games.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:53 pm

Gungriffon Geona wrote:
jpj wrote:considering treasure made wario world, i don't think they'd have any worries there
That definitely wasn't their finest work in my opinion. It was fun, granted, but... eh, it doesn't hold up well against the incredible GB and GBA Wario games.

Or fricking Warioware Twisted for that matter

I have to say, as much as I adore Ikaruga, Alien Soldier and Astro Boy Omega Factor, games like Silpheed, Wario World or even the horrendous Tiny Toons : Busters Bad Dream (try the rom, it´s pure garbage) showed me that Treasure isn´t always the godly developer I thought they would be.

I would love having a Treasure shooter on the wii, and with Metal Slug anthology as a launch title and the retro service we can expect a very open-minded treatment for 2D gaming on the wii in the future. wii as the next shmup-friendly console would be the bliss. I wonder how good that "classic controller" is!

jp · Post by jp » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:39 am

Metal Slug Anthology got pushed back to January?

Any confirmation on this?

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:03 am

Are Sony's and Microsoft's Japanese divisions becoming like SCEA?

At least there's still the PC for shmups, especially with the only version of Shikigami no Shiro 3 to date, and a better Raiden III.

With Ketsui, ESPGaluda 2, etc. supposedly being impossible for PS2, could some shmups have been secretly held back for the Wii? IIRC the Wii is more powerful than PS2 and at least on par with Xbox 1. It wouldn't surprise me if Gradius 6 gets moved there considering Gradius has been on Nintendo systems previously.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:24 am

Cave shooters on Wii? No chance.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:20 am

just to re-iterate my earlier point, a project rs-3 would be on an arcade format first, console port second. in fact ikaruga was initially never destined to be ported on anything...

what worries me now, is that within two/three years, all ps2 games will become phased out. the jap ps2 is probably home to the best selection of "new-school" shooters. after all publishing switches to ps3/next-gen/etc, chances of 2d shooters getting console ports will be pretty much zero. and sega don't want to licence anymore DC releases. how long before we see the death of the console shmup..........?

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:32 am

jpj wrote:just to re-iterate my earlier point, a project rs-3 would be on an arcade format first, console port second. in fact ikaruga was initially never destined to be ported on anything...

what worries me now, is that within two/three years, all ps2 games will become phased out. the jap ps2 is probably home to the best selection of "new-school" shooters. after all publishing switches to ps3/next-gen/etc, chances of console ports will be pretty much zero. and sega don't want to licence anymore DC releases. how long before we see the death of the console shmup..........?

Again, I don't think this will happen anytime soon. with the way things are going Nintendo will be getting alot more business, or the Arcade services will start becoming a bit more literal. An even grander option: PSP development and DS development becomes more prominent for shmups. you really can't kill it that easily by this point. and besides, I think some of the companies need to take a step into 3D territory anyway. alot of designers have proven that it doesn't impede on artistic ability or style of gameplay.

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:10 am

i think you've misunderstood me. i'm talking about arcade 2d shooters, and their prospects and options for home console ports. or rather, the future lack thereof.

roker · Post by **roker** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:03 am

jpj wrote:i think you've misunderstood me. i'm talking about arcade 2d shooters, and their prospects and options for home console ports. or rather, the future lack thereof.

understood

and as long as the PS3 and 360 have their little download games (and assuming they can compress those game files)

they might live life as a download on the 360 arcade, Sony arcade, Nintendo download or even a Wii game (seeing how open Nintendo is)