STGT 2k6- Week #2 Poll (Raizing Week)

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UNOFFICIAL RESULTS "EXIT POLL". Please vote via posting in the thread.

Poll ended at Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:24 am

Battle Bakraid NORMAL COURSE
10
16%
Battle Bakraid ADVANCED COURSE
5
8%
Dimahoo
12
20%
Armed Police Batrider NORMAL COURSE
17
28%
Armed Police Batrider ADVANCED COURSE
17
28%
 
Total votes: 61

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STGT 2k6- Week #2 Poll (Raizing Week)

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The game we are playing for Raizing week is Armed Police Batrider using the ADVANCED COURSE

The scoring thread for week 2 is right here:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 032#171032
Go. Go and kick ass.

The official voting concluded as follows:

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Game Selection:
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Armed Police Batrider - 30 votes
Dimahoo               - 10 votes
Battle Bakraid        - 14 votes
Donald Duck           -  1 vote




Catagory Votes:
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Armed Police Batrider ADVANCED COURSE - 17 Votes
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Twiddle, bVork, PlasmaBlooD, _Bnu, DEL, Icarus, namagomi, Edge, Mulletgeezer, Fighter17, Nemo, freddiebamboo, cigsthecat, javel, elbarto, Smraedis, DJ Incompetent


Armed Police Batrider NORMAL COURSE - 13 Votes
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coffeejoerx, Marcodlb, thesuperkillerxxx, CIT, Plasmo, Neverland, BR1, Shatterhand, Jck, Cannibal, Dexstell, howmuchkeefe, Galdur


Dimahoo - 10 Votes
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Rob, Zig, Limbrooke, Landshark, Davey, DarkWolf7, Sword, Randorama, zinger, The Coop


Battle Bakraid NORMAL COURSE - 9 Votes
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BulletMagnet, Belmont, crithit5000, professor ganson, Herr Schatten, Acid King, msm, Super Laydock, Dennis


Battle Bakraid ADVANCED COURSE - 5 Votes
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Vincere, ill6, Tychom, xipe, oxtsu




THE OFFICIAL VOTE will be decided by posting your game & course choice vote in this thread.

I count the posts per game and the results will determine what game and course we do.

NOTES:
Battle Bakraid NORMAL & ADVANCED votes will count together in determining game choice versus the other two games.
Armed Police Batrider NORMAL & ADVANCED votes will count together in determining game choice versus the other two games.
If Bakraid or Batrider end up winning the votes between the 3 games, the course choice already stated in the vote will then be tallied.
This is in place so that Dimahoo doesn't win because votes for the other games are cut into two parts because of course choice.

-Only people assigned to a team on the first page of STGT 2k6 will have their votes counted.
-Even if you didn't play in Blazing Star last week, if your name is assigned to a team, you can still vote.
-If you post your vote and then edit your post, your vote is disqualified.
-If you post your vote and then post another vote again later on, I will only use your first vote.
-If you post your vote, post another vote later, then edit or remove your first vote post and I/we catch it, your vote is disqualified and other people should yell at you.
-If you post your vote, but forget to specify course, post another vote with your course choice. Just don't edit either post, as you'll break the rules above.
-..so basically, be careful and certain when posting here 8)

-To stop any chances of confusion for team voting, I ask that only Individual posted votes will be counted. Nobody can 'delegate' their vote to another team member or post their vote in the name of another team member. Obviously you may pm within your team as much as you want so you all can agree which choice to go for, but all 5-7 votes from a team will not count unless I see an individual post from every team member.

-If I don't see at least 40 votes via post by Sunday night 23:59 GMT (7-8pm EST), I'll let the vote run a little bit into Monday morning/early afternoon (as I'll be with family for US Labor Day), using proper judgment upon recognizing what top pick has gained some obvious voting gap ahead of the others before closing the vote. In the event this must occur, Edge or my post will determine the moment the poll ends. Whoever posts first. I will probably warn of a proper deadline to stop the extension if it comes to this.
*12 individual complaints against this rule will VETO the possibility of a voting time extension.
*A formal complaint against this time extension rule will be recognized by writing "noextend" (with the no-space between) in your post. (so I can Ctrl-F it)

THE UNOFFICIAL VOTE with the typical polling above is just for fun. I threw it there to "keep things exciting" and to keep people in-the-know what game they are going to have to aquire and get running ahead of time. The unofficial vote up-top will have no bering on which game wins the vote.


Based on Edge's judgment along with the need to specify which mode, here are the choices on what to play for Raizing week:



Battle Bakraid NORMAL COURSE

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6 Stages

Not Battle Garegga with better graphics. Military-themed with a Medaling system & a large enemy Chaining system for multipliers. Game is sometimes compared to the DonPachis. Training Mode is around to ease-in people who haven't played. Stage editing is also there. 9 ships to mess with with main & secondary shots. There's multiples to collect that work like Battle Garegga. There's various configurations for these multiples and there's secret configurations to look for. There's depth and secrets to exploit that sound like they'll keep the score thread talkin' all week.




Battle Bakraid ADVANCED COURSE

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8 stages with ramped difficulty. The "Meat and potatoes" of the game. Bosses w/ enhanced attacks and everything else getting fiercer than normal mode.

Not Battle Garegga with better graphics. Military-themed with a Medaling system & a large enemy Chaining system for multipliers. Game is sometimes compared to the DonPachis. Training Mode is around to ease-in people who haven't played. Stage editing is also there. 9 ships to mess with with main & secondary shots. There's multiples to collect that work like Battle Garegga. There's various configurations for these multiples and there's secret configurations to look for. There's depth and secrets to exploit that sound like they'll keep the score thread talkin' all week.




Dimahoo

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The Dungeons & Dragons fantasy shooter, so to speak. 8 Ships. Secret items are rampant with crazy ways to get them, probably encouraging all-out piece-by-peice dissection of bosses. A very deep regular item collection system dictates the scoring along with a multiplier. This game has a pretty unique charge attack. Collecting entire item sets & memory of what enemy drops what item may play a big role for higher scoring. "Are you great?" and so-on..





Armed Police Batrider NORMAL COURSE

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6 Stages

"The single greatest example of a manic shooter." This game also seems to have the most secrets crammed into it. This includes hidden bosses. Player selection has about 20 ships and deals with teams. Four ship customizations with each ship may keep strategies different throughout the week. Boss milking may play a role in higher scores. What & how you kill things (bomb, shot-type, etc.) + Medaling seem to be the scoring system here. There's tons of other depth to consider that the strategy section details.



Armed Police Batrider ADVANCED COURSE

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More Stages and Harder

"The single greatest example of a manic shooter." This game also seems to have the most secrets crammed into it. This includes hidden bosses. Player selection has about 20 ships and deals with teams. Four ship customizations with each ship may keep strategies different throughout the week. Boss milking may play a role in higher scores. What & how you kill things (bomb, shot-type, etc.) + Medaling seem to be the scoring system here. There's tons of other depth to consider that the strategy section details.


Sorry about the rule-throwdown in voting, but due to time constraints, try to take the concerns to the main STGT 2k6 thread. There we can revise how to run this type of poll for next week. My goal was to anticipate as many unmentioned things that could go wrong as I could and adjust for them. :wink:

If I pulled some dyslexia with Batrider & Bakraid research, gimmie the heads-up. My bad in advance. (infos from strategy threads, review archive, & klov.com)
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Post by Rob »

Wahoo.

Dimahoo
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Post by professor ganson »

Just a question of clarification: These are NOT available for consoles, right? I won't complain, because Edge is <otherwise> doing a tremendous job.
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Post by Zigfried the Trizealot »

Dimahoo.

Sadly, none of these games are available on consoles, which means the number of people playing will probably (again) be smaller than desired. Emulation is evil... fortunately, I'm not even human, so I guess I'll survive.

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Batrider, Advanced
so long and tanks for all the spacefish
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Post by Edge »

Regarding the courses, I didn't clarify which one we'd play because I wanted to discuss possible rules on the poll thread. Anyway, nice idea to cover the course in the poll, but without counting the courses as an extra game. :)


Though I'd like to recommend that we are going to play Advanced Course regardless of the game. Esspecially since in the highscore threads most people play on Normal Course. So the Advanced Course provide an interesting challenge for one week.

Auto fire would be ok for all games on the board as all secret characters and other "cheats".


These rules aren't the absolute final decission, but rather the current suggestions. However if nothing else will be posted about them they will stay like this. Still time to post your thoughts about them. :)

Someone knows about something broken in any of these games.
(I think someone mentioning the secret ship in Battle Bakraid beeing to powerful or something...?)
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Dimahoo+Keyboard=FTW
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Edge wrote:Someone knows about something broken in any of these games.
(I think someone mentioning the secret ship in Battle Bakraid beeing to powerful or something...?)
There is very little broken in any of these games. If one ship excels in one area it also has a severe caveat in another.
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Post by DJ Incompetent »

Thanks, Edge. Glad I'm runnin' up to standards :)
Edge wrote: Though I'd like to recommend that we are going to play Advanced Course regardless of the game. Especially since in the highscore threads most people play on Normal Course. So the Advanced Course provide an interesting challenge for one week.
I much agree on using advanced courses no matter what. But fun for all 90 people comes first, and said poll will decide where to milk this 'fun' from.

But for all who vote, consider this.

Normal courses:
Pro - Everybody will have a better shot to clear the game
Con - The winners will be determined much more by who can research and exploit the scoring systems the most, as survival ability won't really matter near as much, maybe dubbing the tourney "not fun"

Advanced courses:
Pro - Pure ability & survival may come far more into play for higher scores to counter the people who strategize to research and exploit scoring systems. Meaning it may be possible time-constricted people with teh skillz can outscore others who find & study replays all day.
Con - Higher-numbered tiers may get frustrated if they can't get very far, maybe dubbing the tourney "not fun."
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DJ Incompetent wrote:Meaning it may be possible time-constricted people with teh skillz can outscore others who find & study replays all day.
Ha, I'd say not!
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I'm in favor of Advanced Course being the default, since rank is much more relevant there. (This also means we get to put Garegga and Mahou in the vote, yay!)

Also, pure skill won't let you get ahead in the scoring system of either Batrider course, let alone Bakraid.
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Rob wrote:
DJ Incompetent wrote:Meaning it may be possible time-constricted people with teh skillz can outscore others who find & study replays all day.
Ha, I'd say not!
Yeah, probably. In-practice, it'll be more like the guy who didn't hit the strategy thread beat ranking #49 because he got 3 stages farther than the guy who sucked it up but figured out where all the hidden shit is in stages one & two...or...maybe just one.

We'd have to run the comp twice to find out I suppose. Either way, it's worth thinkin' about...when you placed in the bottom third anyway.
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Dimahoo.
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Bakraid Normal Course.
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Well shit.

Only three games to choose from, and I don't own any of them. The place I found Blazing Star doesn't have them, and other sites want me to either lower my firewall (fuck that), or sign up and vote (for what?). Looks like I've been snuffed out of this week's competition :(
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If you're looking to get the games for MAME, they're not too hard to find, there are a good amount of sites you don't have to register or anything at to get. Honestly, just enter a Google for "mame roms" and you probably ought to find a place.
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1 vote for battle bakraid normal course....
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Battle Bakraid NORMAL COURSE
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I vote in Armed Police Batrider NORMAL COURSE.
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Edge, just out of curiosity. If we're playing Advanced Course regardless as you say, does that mean either a) all Normal Course votes are null and wasted; or b) Normal and Advanced Course votes for that game will be combined?
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Battle Bakraid NORMAL COURSE
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Dimahoo
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I think we should go where the votes take us. I find it interesting the Batrider people are going the Advanced route while Bakraid people are saying Normal so far. I don't think anybody was gonna predict that one.
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I'm worried because I might have to almost completely sit out Raizing Week because I have serious grievances against Dimahoo's scoring system and everyone's voting for that because it's the only game that doesn't have a split.
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Post by DJ Incompetent »

:?: you sure that's the reason? Everybody does know no matter if a Normal or Advance vote is picked, they will be added together for the game to compare totals against the other two games, right?

So looking at the Unofficial poll up-top right now, that just means it's

Bakraid = 4
Dimahoo = 6
Batrider = 4

Almost even thus far I'd say. I wouldn't worry yet. :)
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Batrider Advanced.

I've never played it, so this will be a great time to start!
bVork it up!
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Bakraid, NORMAL COURSE
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armed police batrider Normal course
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thank you
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Batraider Advanced Course.I want to play on my cab with the PCB.Mame is not really fun.
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