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I don't know when I will be able to address anything but the most serious issues - but please drop observations/problems in this thread please. I tested as far as I could with the volunteers I had available and this was my first attempt creating a PHPBB theme.

The full default Prosilver is available to switch to if you really want to.
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First impressions would be...

1. Main body of forum looks like it became much smaller. Like, it's more narrow than it was before. Mobile folks might not notice it, but its pretty noticeable for us who use computers with monitors.

2. And because of that, "stars" background is too active/strong now.

EDIT:

Yeah, it used to be fullwidth. Would you be considering "fixing" it?
http://web.archive.org/web/202107182015 ... 8b33211e3a
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Yes it's a little narrower, I can take a look at it - it shouldn't change the star density at all though because those are a repeated image not a scaled one. It's something I can look at in future, due to the way the theme works now it's fairly easy to make test ones that inherit.

Edit: Oh I understand, you mean more noticeable of course.
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Not sure if this is a bug related to the new theming/overlay ( or related to bbcode), but I just tried to update my Raiden DX scoreboard with a new submission and for some reason, it completely erased the visibility of the previous tables/scores ( even though I can still see them if I try to edit the original post where the scoreboard was created).
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Yeah tables seem to be completely broken - it didn't even occur to me to test that. They might have to be broken for a few days - I'm seeing reports of similar experiences but not much helpful in the way of solutions.
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It's down to the way the new BBcode parser expands tags - but I don't know how to fix it as I'm not a web developer.
table]
thing
thing2
/table]
Used to create javascript on one line, but now the newlines are actually getting through which is invalid.

I might have to just find an alternate solution which will end up meaning some painful editing, turns out someone must have added this in the past as it's not a standard feature.
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I don't know why it doesn't output standard HTML tags instead, which are universal. You can't exactly look at something that uses a script locally without running up your own host server which is excessive for what we're talking about here. Maybe someone would like to keep a local HTML file, is what I mean.

The spoiler plug-in isn't working on either of my browsers, which granted aren't one of the five thousand variations of them these companies put out in the last five minutes, but they're not exactly from as far back as 2014, here...
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Try that, it needs a little more tidying but spoiler should work now.
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Thanks, it works~
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The biggest thing that's bugging me is that the logo up top doesn't return you to the front page of the forum.
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qmish wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:06 pm First impressions would be...

1. Main body of forum looks like it became much smaller. Like, it's more narrow than it was before. Mobile folks might not notice it, but its pretty noticeable for us who use computers with monitors.

2. And because of that, "stars" background is too active/strong now.
This is my single primary issue.

I think the star background is a classic, better not to mess with it. But with so much of it not being obscured now (literally 60% of my screen), it gets extremely strenuous on my eyes.

EDIT: Here's a CSS plug-in snippet that works for me. Not a suggestion for an official update, since I imagine people's mileage may vary.

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.wrap {
    background: #040d12bd;
    max-width: unset;
    height: 100%;
    margin-left: 6px;
    margin-right: 10px;
}
.wrap > div {
    max-width: 1500px;
    margin: auto;
}
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Ok, I'm also missing all the "latest posts" style links in the top right. Namely the new posts since last log-in, list of active threads, and list of threads I've previously participated in.
Those three pages are literally the only ones I ever use on this forum.

The URLs still work, eg: http://shmups.system11.org/search.php?s ... d=newposts - it's just the links that are missing
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Sumez wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:24 am Ok, I'm also missing all the "latest posts" style links in the top right. Namely the new posts since last log-in, list of active threads, and list of threads I've previously participated in.
Those three pages are literally the only ones I ever use on this forum.

The URLs still work, eg: http://shmups.system11.org/search.php?s ... d=newposts - it's just the links that are missing
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Sumez wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:15 am
qmish wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:06 pm2. And because of that, "stars" background is too active/strong now.
This is my single primary issue.

I think the star background is a classic, better not to mess with it. But with so much of it not being obscured now (literally 60% of my screen), it gets extremely strenuous on my eyes.
I'd just like the option for a flat black BG back, if it's not too much trouble. :3
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Not sure if it's just my PC, but when I scrolled down the posts in this thread, I noticed some screen tearing, posts would split a little, then straighten back up. Just a weird little sight to see. Also when I first came in after the migration from my bookmarks, the link was trying to take me to some weird place, where my browser stopped me from entering, but when I clicked from my bookmarks for the site again, thankfully it brought me to the forums as normal.
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qmish wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:06 pm First impressions would be...

1. Main body of forum looks like it became much smaller. Like, it's more narrow than it was before. Mobile folks might not notice it, but its pretty noticeable for us who use computers with monitors.
^ this. It looks really weird. Not saying it looks bad, but... it's weird. It occupies part of the middle of my screen and the rest of it is just stars. I like the stars and I want them to stay, but I wish the actual posts and stuff were larger or took up more space on the page or something to that effect. I'm not really sure how to describe it, but yeah.

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null1024 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:14 am The biggest thing that's bugging me is that the logo up top doesn't return you to the front page of the forum.
this too
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Yeah, def don't like the fixed width. So, of course, the first thing I did was whip up a Stylus script for myself that changed the main column max width to 90% rather than a fixed amount of pixels.

But with or without the script, I note that there's absolutely no padding between the user field and the post field, and that does not look great.

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Edit: Also please make those green user online indicators not be animated.
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Clicking "Mark Forums Read" opens up a blank information box (but does function).

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Bloodreign wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:07 am Not sure if it's just my PC, but when I scrolled down the posts in this thread, I noticed some screen tearing, posts would split a little, then straighten back up. Just a weird little sight to see. Also when I first came in after the migration from my bookmarks, the link was trying to take me to some weird place, where my browser stopped me from entering, but when I clicked from my bookmarks for the site again, thankfully it brought me to the forums as normal.
I had the same issue. I also had another problem where I couldn't sign in easily. Even after recovering/resetting password and entering all the info correctly, I would get taken to a broken link or something. I eventually managed to get into my account, so no big deal I guess. Clicking on forum threads doesn't always work-sometimes it takes you to the "this link is being migrated over" message.

I'm more interested in the forum working properly than in the style, but I do have to agree with people saying the new design is rather narrow. On a 16:9 monitor, an extraordinary amount of my screen is wasted.
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For anyone who has TamperMonkey, I threw together a quick script to tweak the CSS using a couple of the changes people have posted in this thread: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/47103 ... -bg-tweaks
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Kez wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:25 am For anyone who has TamperMonkey, I threw together a quick script to tweak the CSS using a couple of the changes people have posted in this thread: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/47103 ... -bg-tweaks
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BurlyHeart wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:37 am Top left under 'Quick Links'.
By the way, I want to add about my experience with current versions of phpbb.
In case with big and superactive forums, "active topics" is much less stable compared to what "recent posts" were. However, with small/medium forums it seems to be working more or less good (and I think system11 falls into this category more; however on something like modwiggler it's unreliable as hell). Just my 2 cents.

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Looks nice! Shame about the tables being broken but it's not necessarily the end of the world. Hopefully a solution for that isn't too big of a pain.

I'd like it if the big logo at the top were a clickable link to return to the board index as before, it's a quick way to return to the top level of the forum when you're browsing (especially when on mobile, hitting the "Board index" link at the top left is a lot smaller).
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Looking swish! +1 for the logo link to go back to the index.

It would also be nice if Quick Links would expand on hover, since having to click into a menu doubles the effort of navigating to the respective pages.
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I'm liking it! Looks great on mobile.
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BareKnuckleRoo wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:27 pm Looks nice! Shame about the tables being broken but it's not necessarily the end of the world.
For those of us maintaining scoreboards it's a pain. Like you said, hopefully it's fixable; it was probably my favorite feature to the forum in the last 5 or more years.
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qmish wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:06 pm Yeah, it used to be fullwidth. Would you be considering "fixing" it?
http://web.archive.org/web/202107182015 ... 8b33211e3a
It just feels wrong after so many years. :P
Seconded. There's a lot of unused space for computer users with this change.
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BIL wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:46 am
I'd just like the option for a flat black BG back, if it's not too much trouble. :3
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Sima Tuna wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:55 am I had the same issue. I also had another problem where I couldn't sign in easily. Even after recovering/resetting password and entering all the info correctly, I would get taken to a broken link or something. I eventually managed to get into my account, so no big deal I guess. Clicking on forum threads doesn't always work-sometimes it takes you to the "this link is being migrated over" message.
This sounds like proxy/cache issues - should clear up.
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I'll make a star-less theme later, I didn't have time.

Will look at the best way of making it wider, it's not quite as simple as a single number because some margins appear to be width dependent on appearing. I don't know CSS well so everything is learning. Adding some padding to the profile will be easy and needs doing - thats because in Prosilver the poster details live on the right, so it only has a left pad defined.
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