Operation Wolf RETURNS

[Marc]

The Switch version is considered the worst of the lot

Honestly, it really didn't seem like the type of game one would get on anything but the Switch.

Score another one for the Unity haters, I suppose...

No idea if it has less issues docked.

I'm kind of interested in the PSVR2 experience. I wouldn't play a light gun game on Switch again after HOTD REmake, that was terribly disappointing. Its an instant buy on PS5 if it ever gets parched to add motion control.

[xxx1993]

From what I saw, the VR version looks pretty fun. I don’t have a headset, though.

[BrianC]

I'm kind of interested in the PSVR2 experience. I wouldn't play a light gun game on Switch again after HOTD REmake, that was terribly disappointing. Its an instant buy on PS5 if it ever gets parched to add motion control.

The system requirements for the Steam version of the HoTD remake don't give me confidence in the Switch version's performance.

[xxx1993]

Now, what does one think about the bosses in Operation Wolf?

[m.sniffles.esq]

Now, what does one think about the bosses in Operation Wolf?

I can't really say, as I only fought the first and (as mentioned) I ran into some 'technical issues'. So I can't really say it was the most terrific experience.

[xxx1993]

I want to talk about anyone that's played it on PS5 or Steam. We already know the Switch version isn't any good.

[MJR]

Sometimes I wonder if the attitude in this board is "if it's not made by japanese, it's trash". Because this does not look THAT bad, I love the comic book style and character designs.

Sure, "true" results probably would had if this had been 2D cardboards like the 80's coinops with exactly same drawing style, but I wonder how many people would put up with that? I would, but I don't know about the rest!

Original OW was essentially just a carny shooting range, it didn't even try to be realistic, just shoot, shoot, shoot and have fun. This seems to try to emulate modern shooter gameplay with all the taking cover stuff. I am not entirely sure if that's the right direction at all. I think Revolution X actually perfected the shooting-range style gameplay. Tons and tons of bonuses and silliness, it didn't even try to be realistic. I still don't understand why some people hated Revolution X so much, it's one of my all-time favourite shooting range games on arcade (ps1 version wasn't very good).

[xxx1993]

The Saturday morning cartoon visuals as well as the G.I. Joe style tone of the game probably won’t be for everyone, but I still had a blast with it. In fact, I just 1CC’d the game yesterday.

[m.sniffles.esq]

Original OW was essentially just a carny shooting range, it didn't even try to be realistic, just shoot, shoot, shoot and have fun. This seems to try to emulate modern shooter gameplay with all the taking cover stuff.

Yeah, it wasn't broke, so I'm not real sure why they tried to fix it.
The other manner in which they tried to emulate FPS gameplay, is with the whole 'weapon switching' thing (rather than 'shoot weapon power-up, it gets used til it's done, go back to original weapon' light-gun standard) and it really doesn't work at all.

So you basically have a game that's sort of in-between one thing and another, so it ends up being nothing. Honestly, if I'm going to play a 'move a crosshair around' game, I have Empire City: 1931. At least it knows exactly what it is (and doesn't run like shit).

[SavagePencil]

Ghost Squad really is still the king of light gun games. They should’ve cribbed some notes.

[xxx1993]

Ghost Squad really is still the king of light gun games. They should’ve cribbed some notes.

Really? Even more than the Time Crisis franchise?

[SavagePencil]

Ghost Squad really is still the king of light gun games. They should’ve cribbed some notes.

Really? Even more than the Time Crisis franchise?

Absolutely! It has a lot of elements like weapon selection, branching paths, and different challenges that keep the gameplay varied and encourage replayability. Definitely check it out.

[xxx1993]

Well, at least the Time Crisis games doesn’t have that stupid “beat the boss in one try or fail the mission” thing.

[xxx1993]

Original OW was essentially just a carny shooting range, it didn't even try to be realistic, just shoot, shoot, shoot and have fun. This seems to try to emulate modern shooter gameplay with all the taking cover stuff.

Yeah, it wasn't broke, so I'm not real sure why they tried to fix it.
The other manner in which they tried to emulate FPS gameplay, is with the whole 'weapon switching' thing (rather than 'shoot weapon power-up, it gets used til it's done, go back to original weapon' light-gun standard) and it really doesn't work at all.

So you basically have a game that's sort of in-between one thing and another, so it ends up being nothing. Honestly, if I'm going to play a 'move a crosshair around' game, I have Empire City: 1931. At least it knows exactly what it is (and doesn't run like shit).

Again, if you want to truly experience the game, play it on the PS5 and forget the Switch version. I don’t care what the haters say, I’ll gladly defend this game to the end and prove that it isn’t a bad game at all. In fact, it’s nowhere near “Contra: Rogue Corps” level of bad. So sue me for liking this game, and if anyone doesn’t, I’ll see their asses in court, I guess.

[MJR]

Original OW was essentially just a carny shooting range, it didn't even try to be realistic, just shoot, shoot, shoot and have fun. This seems to try to emulate modern shooter gameplay with all the taking cover stuff.

Yeah, it wasn't broke, so I'm not real sure why they tried to fix it.
The other manner in which they tried to emulate FPS gameplay, is with the whole 'weapon switching' thing (rather than 'shoot weapon power-up, it gets used til it's done, go back to original weapon' light-gun standard) and it really doesn't work at all.

So you basically have a game that's sort of in-between one thing and another, so it ends up being nothing. Honestly, if I'm going to play a 'move a crosshair around' game, I have Empire City: 1931. At least it knows exactly what it is (and doesn't run like shit).

Again, if you want to truly experience the game, play it on the PS5 and forget the Switch version. I don’t care what the haters say, I’ll gladly defend this game to the end and prove that it isn’t a bad game at all. In fact, it’s nowhere near “Contra: Rogue Corps” level of bad. So sue me for liking this game, and if anyone doesn’t, I’ll see their asses in court, I guess.

I'm not a hater; I have my doubts, but I want it to be good. Is there anything else on PS5 version that makes it trump over Switch version; else than slightly better lighting and framerate? I've seen the comparison videos on youtube but they didn't look that dramatic in difference. And I don't think I will be buying a PS5 for some time.

[xxx1993]

Let's just say it runs better on PS5 more than anything. The Switch version lacks the "take cover" mechanic for some reason, there are those weird red stripes during gameplay, your weapons have much higher magazine capacity, enemy gunfire is dead silent, and there's no gyro support.

[AGermanArtist]

I kinda like the look of this thing, having previously written it off.

[xxx1993]

Glad I'm not the only one having fun with it. In time, this game's gonna fall into the category of "Video Game Sequels You Didn't Know Were Good".

[gray117]

It's not without some charm... ...and to be honest operation wolf was just... early...?

This new game is not operation wolf though.

And in respect to the original, I don't like anything about this whacky approach... But what would you do with operation wolf now?

Mechanised attack was better themed and would have been a better game to update and do something more interesting with and would have been easier to stay faithful to the original flavour.

[xxx1993]

So? It's not a bad game at all. Stop making this game look like it's Contra: Rogue Corps levels of bad, because it's not. At least it's completely playable.

[ryu]

I don't get the appeal to be honest. It looks silly. Probably a fun game. But I don't see anything stand out to me in a way that could make me want to play this over a plethora of other games.

[Sumez]

There's no appeal. This is just the kind of thing xxx1993 does. Fixates themself on a random niche game regardless of its qualities, and then tries to talk it up. It's pretty fascinating honestly.

[m.sniffles.esq]

It looks silly. Probably a fun game.

Yes and not really

[AGermanArtist]

There's no appeal. This is just the kind of thing xxx1993 does. Fixates themself on a random niche game regardless of its qualities, and then tries to talk it up. It's pretty fascinating honestly.

Rllmuk forum specialises in this. Talk up the positives in objectively bad, broken or universally poorly reviewed games to make them 'your own' in the hope people will follow and hail the original person who started talking the game up an insightful gaming hero. A legend. They don't get it!

Shit like

Binary Domain OMG IT HAS A FRENCH ROBOT
Killzone IT'S NOT A GAME BREAKING FEATURE HAMPERING GAMEPLAY, IT'S GOT WEIGHT LIKE HOLDING A REAL RIFLE

[xxx1993]

If Contra or Time Crisis went the Saturday morning cartoon route for its next installments, would you guys get mad over it? I might write a review of this game over on the Other Gaming thread, and I'll prove you guys wrong about this game.

I don't get the appeal to be honest. It looks silly. Probably a fun game. But I don't see anything stand out to me in a way that could make me want to play this over a plethora of other games.

It looks silly. Probably a fun game.

Yes and not really

Why don't you guys just try the game for yourself so you'll understand what I'm talking about? At least on PS5 because that’s what I got it on.

There's no appeal. This is just the kind of thing xxx1993 does. Fixates themself on a random niche game regardless of its qualities, and then tries to talk it up. It's pretty fascinating honestly.

Rllmuk forum specialises in this. Talk up the positives in objectively bad, broken or universally poorly reviewed games to make them 'your own' in the hope people will follow and hail the original person who started talking the game up an insightful gaming hero. A legend. They don't get it!

Shit like

Binary Domain OMG IT HAS A FRENCH ROBOT
Killzone IT'S NOT A GAME BREAKING FEATURE HAMPERING GAMEPLAY, IT'S GOT WEIGHT LIKE HOLDING A REAL RIFLE

And is there anything wrong with liking something? Even though it's not really a bad game and the Internet loves to exaggerate on things? I've had it with the Internet and social media constantly being so negative on things, there is enough negativity in the world already. I've seen and played worse shit than Operation Wolf, I still consider something like Contra: Legacy of War to be one of the worst titles I ever experienced in my lifetime. Hell, the Rambo video game for the PS3 and Xbox 360 looks and plays worse than this one! If anything, I actually consider Operation Wolf 3 to be the worst of the series for being more of a Lethal Enforcers knock-off, but even then, I consider that game to be a guilty pleasure. And since I'm a massive movie buff, I enjoyed movies like the 2018 Death Wish, the 2014 RoboCop, Rambo: Last Blood, and Expend4bles. All of them got unfairly bashed upon, but I enjoy them for what they are, and because I'm such a huge fan of those franchises. In a nutshell, I'm just a man of simple tastes. And in the end, the people on this board are no better than the angry reviewers, ranting chuds, or negative comments on YouTube, Twitter, and Miraheze's stupid Reception Wikis. And this board itself is yet another hateposting/shitposting message board just like GameFAQs and that Rllmuk forum you mentioned.

[AGermanArtist]

Take a day off man

[xxx1993]

Take a day off man

Then stop bullying my games. How would you feel if I started hating on the games YOU liked? Honestly, with the way this board has been acting, I won't be any surprised if they started trashing on Contra: Operation Galuga when that one comes out, especially since I've been waiting a long time for a reboot of the Contra franchise after the shit show that was Rogue Corps.

[AGermanArtist]

There's plenty to criticise with Contra Galuga. It's a good game that could be so much better. The folks here have exacting standards for games in this particular wheelhouse. This forum may be about Shmups, but it's really about skill based games in all their forms. They take a bit of shit for it on lesser forums, but it's a good thing these people are here being vocal, otherwise where the fuck would we be? Accepting any old shite? Don't forget that when devs get it right they are just as vocal.
The fact that Way Forward put out a survey after the demo is promising. I appreciate that. I'm going to buy it and I hope we see some updates.

[xxx1993]

I just wanted Contra to reboot itself and start anew after Shattered Soldier and Neo ruined the lore by revealing the aliens were actually guardians of a artifact stolen by the government, making Lance Bean an antagonist and killing him off, and making Lucia and Bill Rizer evil for no reason.

[Marc]

Contra had a plot......?
Fuck.