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I prefer the old X Men and SF games to MvC 1 and 2. So this collection is giving everyone what they want. Assuming input lag numbers are good, the game isn't delisted immediately and matches are available online.
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Sima Tuna wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:48 am I prefer the old X Men and SF games to MvC 1 and 2.
Absolutely.

I hope this has some kind of ok scanline filters as I can't stand the way these games look otherwise. Not expecting something like Sonic Mania has (I wish) but something like the CAS games have will be acceptable.
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Yeah out of all of Capcoms marvel fighting games, X-Men vs SF is probably my fav and the only one of them I got on cartridge. Is it mechanically broken? Sure if you delve really into the game. But it's a ton of fun and doesn't feel nearly as chaotic as mvc2.
BulletMagnet wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:18 pm Capcom recently announced a Marvel fighting game collection, which includes a bonus game, namely the Punisher beat-em-up. Is this the first home version it's gotten?
Outside of the shitty megadrive port, it got released on one of those arcade1up monstrosities some years back.
But for my money this is still the first home version... which leaves behind only Cadillacs and Dinos for me now!
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Sumez wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:17 am Outside of the shitty megadrive port, it got released on one of those arcade1up monstrosities some years back.
But for my money this is still the first home version... which leaves behind only Cadillacs and Dinos for me now!
You're counting the Capcom Home Arcade version of AvP?
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Sumez wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:17 am Yeah out of all of Capcoms marvel fighting games, X-Men vs SF is probably my fav and the only one of them I got on cartridge. Is it mechanically broken? Sure if you delve really into the game. But it's a ton of fun and doesn't feel nearly as chaotic as mvc2.
That sort of argument never held too much water with me anyway. Are Alpha 3 V-Isms busted? Sure. But so what? The game is fun as hell. If you want a serious tourney then you can just soft ban/shame V-ism. If you run a Darkstalkers 3 tourney and everyone is picking Yeti to the point it's ruining the fun then ban him. Or stop caring and let everyone enjoy their sweaty Yeti vs Yeti mirrors. :lol:

I really love Capcom's "midway" style between classic SF and the full insanity of MvC2. Games like Darkstalkers 3, JoJo, X-Men vs SF, Alpha 3 and Cyberbots. Turn-of-Millennium Capcom could really do no wrong with fighting games.
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Air Master Burst wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:41 am
Sumez wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:17 am Outside of the shitty megadrive port, it got released on one of those arcade1up monstrosities some years back.
But for my money this is still the first home version... which leaves behind only Cadillacs and Dinos for me now!
You're counting the Capcom Home Arcade version of AvP?
Nah, I'm counting my CPS2 cartridge at home :P
Punisher and Cadinos are way too expensive for me though
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Sumez wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:31 am Punisher and Cadinos are way too expensive for me though
I have a suicided Punisher. :(

I'm aware there are fixes but that's way over my head.
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Find someone who knows how to solder, grab an Infinikey, and you're all set. :)

https://videogameperfection.com/product ... key-board/

I'm a bit useless when it comes to soldering and hardware myself, but a friend knows what they're doing and with the instructions and an Infinikey they were able to fix up my Giga Wing board so I don't have to worry about it suiciding. The instructions here say this CPS1 Infinikey also doesn't need soldering?
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Soldering is the least of your worries when it comes to solutions like this (unless you need to solder surface mount chips). I'd take a soldered solution any day over one that "doesn't require soldering" :)

And yeah if you actually own a Punisher, don't let it go to waste man. Don't be like me with my Tatsujin Ou :lol:
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cfx wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 4:55 am I hope this has some kind of ok scanline filters as I can't stand the way these games look otherwise. Not expecting something like Sonic Mania has (I wish) but something like the CAS games have will be acceptable.
The filters in the last collection they did were fairly decent so I expect the same treatment here. I imagine they're reusing most of the frontend and emulation code from that one.
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I'm pleasantly surprised with Capcom's run of retro collections. I hope they follow up with D&D, AvP, C&D
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it290 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:13 pm
cfx wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 4:55 am I hope this has some kind of ok scanline filters as I can't stand the way these games look otherwise. Not expecting something like Sonic Mania has (I wish) but something like the CAS games have will be acceptable.
The filters in the last collection they did were fairly decent so I expect the same treatment here. I imagine they're reusing most of the frontend and emulation code from that one.
I found this image:
https://noisypixel.net/wp-content/uploa ... sics-3.png

Via the article:
https://noisypixel.net/marvel-vs-capcom ... -and-more/

Is that what the other ones look like? That's much better than what is in the Capcom Arcade Stadium games since it has a mask simulation as well. If that's what the Capcom Belt Action Collection looks like I should get that one as well; I just bought those games via CAS.

I hope the wallpaper can be removed as I find that always distracting.
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hazys wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:14 am I'm pleasantly surprised with Capcom's run of retro collections. I hope they follow up with D&D, AvP, C&D
They've already done the D&D games, Chronicles of Mystara has pretty solid ports with nice extras.

Technically they did AvP on that stupid Capcom Home Arcade, but the less said about that debacle the better.

You'd think C&D at least would be cheap to license these days.
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C&D licensing is a rabbit hole. It's not about money. It's about the rights holder not caring.
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Sumez wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:42 pm C&D licensing is a rabbit hole. It's not about money. It's about the rights holder not caring.
I should've known. Same reason we're never getting JSRF or the NOLF games ported.
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Did they release D&D on current systems? I remember it was on the PS3/Wii U. I think it came out for the Switch but was delisted. I didn't manage to grab it beforehand.

I remember the ridiculous Capcom logo-shaped arcade pad with AvP on it. That was a real slap in the face.
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These acronyms/initialisms make me feel like I'm in a corporate presentation!

Someone explain NOLF please.
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cfx wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:05 am I found this image:
https://noisypixel.net/wp-content/uploa ... sics-3.png

Via the article:
https://noisypixel.net/marvel-vs-capcom ... -and-more/

Is that what the other ones look like? That's much better than what is in the Capcom Arcade Stadium games since it has a mask simulation as well. If that's what the Capcom Belt Action Collection looks like I should get that one as well; I just bought those games via CAS.

I hope the wallpaper can be removed as I find that always distracting.
I can't speak to the belt scroller collection as I don't have it, but can confirm Capcom Fighting Collection has those options. You can see the full set here: https://imgur.com/a/capcom-fighting-col ... rs-QjO7ra7
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it290 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:25 pm
cfx wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:05 am I found this image:
https://noisypixel.net/wp-content/uploa ... sics-3.png

Via the article:
https://noisypixel.net/marvel-vs-capcom ... -and-more/

Is that what the other ones look like? That's much better than what is in the Capcom Arcade Stadium games since it has a mask simulation as well. If that's what the Capcom Belt Action Collection looks like I should get that one as well; I just bought those games via CAS.

I hope the wallpaper can be removed as I find that always distracting.
I can't speak to the belt scroller collection as I don't have it, but can confirm Capcom Fighting Collection has those options. You can see the full set here: https://imgur.com/a/capcom-fighting-col ... rs-QjO7ra7
Thanks for the images. That's probably Filter F on the Marvel Super Heroes image. I think F and E look best. I haven't looked at any of the CAS games recently, but as far as I recall they don't have anything like those two.

EDIT: IN case anyone else cares about these filters--The Belt Action Collection is on sale for ¥974 on the Japanese PlayStation Store so I bought it to see if it had the same scanline options before paying the high price the physical version goes for now. It does not have the same options unfortunately. It has three filters with that kind of pattern like some of the ones in your images that I don't know what are supposed to mimic as they don't look like any CRT I've ever seen at all, and then there are three that are just the dark horizontal scanlines, and I believe no accompanying blur. I compared Battle Circuit to the CAS version which I already had, and I think the CAS looks better.

I'll get that Fighting Collection though so I can have a better version of Vampire Hunter/Night Warriors and Cyberbots; don't care about the rest of the games in it.
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BulletMagnet wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:18 pmCapcom recently announced a Marvel fighting game collection, which includes a bonus game, namely the Punisher beat-em-up. Is this the first home version it's gotten?
Among a collection of versus fighters, to have a single lone beater on it... I get it that it's an extra with the Marv license. I'd have to buy it for that alone, ignoring (wasting) the rest of the collection. That's too odd.
Air Master Burst wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:58 pmOf course, I'm still buying it for Punisher because Punisher is amazing.
Are you referring to this here video game or the character? Because, I have to say, as a comic-reader with a no-politics 'tude, whenever I encounter the prick (in any media) I feel sore enough to lose a healthy detachment to the stuff. Doesn't mean a brawler couldn't be fun, I never played it. Just in this collection...it seems wasteful. Add it to the Stadium, please? No? They're done with it? Shamefur.
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NYN wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:17 am Are you referring to this here video game or the character? Because, I have to say, as a comic-reader with a no-politics 'tude, whenever I encounter the prick (in any media) I feel sore enough to lose a healthy detachment to the stuff. Doesn't mean a brawler couldn't be fun, I never played it. Just in this collection...it seems wasteful. Add it to the Stadium, please? No? They're done with it? Shamefur.
This specific video game, it's one of Capcom's better belt scrollers (which automatically makes it one of the best games ever made). Although I do love that Punisher regularly kills cops (at least he did in the early 90s, I havent read comics in decades), he's generally too one-note to hold my interest for long. He's best used as a foil for heroes that get too full of themselves, or as comic relief.

Frankly, I trust this to be a better port than what we'd get if it was just an Arcade Stadium release, so I'm all for it. A good port of this will be worth the asking price alone, never mind that insane lineup of Marvel fighters that you get as bonus games.
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:lol: Yes, you're right! No! Yooouuuu are the bonus games!1! Perspective, etc.

It will get a real release, I'm told. OK!

Some note of interest:
New 0rder wrote:Changes from Original

- Some images used in the ending of the game in the Japanese version have been removed.
- Screen flashing can now be reduced. Enable via Game Settings > EX Settings > Light Reduction.
Note: Affects title demo, grenade impact animation, and player respawn animation.
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The image at the end is a photo of the Manhattan skyline that includes the World Trade Center. Goofy thing to remove, IMO.
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No mention of anything removed from Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter. JP version has an exclusive character named Norimaro that was removed from international releases. Norimaro is in the Japan only Saturn version.
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BrianC wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:09 pm No mention of anything removed from Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter. JP version has an exclusive character named Norimaro that was removed from international releases. Norimaro is in the Japan only Saturn version.
They don't have the rights to the character, Marvel hated him and probably wouldn't allow it, and frankly it's a better game without him in it.
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BrianC wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:09 pm No mention of anything removed from Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter. JP version has an exclusive character named Norimaro that was removed from international releases. Norimaro is in the Japan only Saturn version.
According to evidence in this article, he's likely gone: https://automaton-media.com/en/news/mar ... -remaster/
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cfx wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:00 am
BrianC wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:09 pm No mention of anything removed from Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter. JP version has an exclusive character named Norimaro that was removed from international releases. Norimaro is in the Japan only Saturn version.
According to evidence in this article, he's likely gone: https://automaton-media.com/en/news/mar ... -remaster/
Not surprised by this, just found the lack of text regarding changes odd. Possibly because they only affect the Japanese version.
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I stand corrected, the MVC collection was def discussed.

The line Beat Em Up title in it, being the very first Marvel character EVER done by Capcom, is discussed at length here, by a dude I agree with on just about everything:

https://youtu.be/jCjnLcjmIIg?feature=shared
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Does anyone know where I can find more information on Zero Team? That game seems to have a lot of secrets and hidden mechanics, that are probably not that important in the long run, but still got me curious.

Like, I'm playing the 97 version and sometimes my combo finishers do a critical hit? You can see Big-O do it in the attract screen. Is there a technique involved with this or is it random?

Also, do bosses have a secret weakness? I managed to spike the Kabuki boss out of the air with Spin while he was doing his jumping attack, and the result was notably more explosive. I did something like this before on another boss, but I don't remember what I did.

Is there a score bonus for bothering with this?

Are there any other neat or note worthy tricks?
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