The Cancel Culture thread! WOO!

[Steamflogger Boss]

Had to look him up. Any recommended reading/viewing?

[Sengoku Strider]

Talcum X

As a white man, it would be inappropriate for me to acknowledge this as a sick burn. Of the sort which burns one's soul slow.

[BIL]

Sick burns are for everybody! A much-loved auld classic, that one.

[BryanM]

Had to look him up. Any recommended reading/viewing?

Hm, looks like his star came and went in 2015.

There's not much to say about the man, he's not cartoonishly evil like Mr.Anime or anything. He's certainly not 0.01% the monster Elizabeth Warren is, though that's probably mostly to do with his lack of power and relevance. He quit a six figure job to jump on the train. He wore a blue vest, the vest has a meme twitter page. When Sanders was getting hammered by BLM, he was one of the leaders invited to the meeting to talk about their concerns. Later that year he shilled a Visa card on his twitter.

My light inquiries to the oracle only yoinked this OneUnited page as evidence this ever happened. It seems like any other bank, but this one claims it's black-owned. Sadly the shilling will only live on in memories of terminally online freaks, doomed to be lost like tacos in the rain.

The whole idea of movements having "leaders".... hah.... we're so far away from the fantasy world of Tonight We Riot where the guy holding the flag gets mowed down in seconds, only for some other random schlep to hoist it anew.

[Sengoku Strider]

evil like Mr.Anime

Well, looking that name up was certainly an experience.

Spoiler

[Steamflogger Boss]

Good gawd.

[BryanM]

I was hoping someone unaware would google him. It's always more rewarding to go on an adventure and discover things for yourself~

That anime list is a bit of a trip; they're over a generation old in human timeline terms. FMP: Fumoffu is a little curio, it's like a twilight alternate mirror universe distant cousin of Amagi Brilliant Park.

But those who don't know about Chris-chan, don't google him. Take the win and move on. There's digging through trash, there's gazing into darkness, and then there's swimming through vomit. You don't want to swim in the vomit.

... or maybe you do, who am I to tell you what you like to do. \/ . . \/

[Steamflogger Boss]

Yeah I tried to look up the previous guy and he seemed boring. This Mr. Anime guy on the other hand.

Also on the other hand, definitely google Chris-Chan. Gotta see what the true dregs look like.

[BIL]

Old Sonichu is still a hoot. "Old" meaning 2000-2014. A perfect snapshot of a young autistic fellow raised by children's media. A gallant quest for the elusive HOMO VACCINE



He legit lost his mind post-2014, and is basically a shit-smearing ape at this point. Poor Bob, I hope he's not seeing all this. :[

[evil_ash_xero]

Yeah, it's so terrible that some people don't think it's cool to call Sarkeesian the c-word.

I love you, Bryan M., and I miss your... conversational sparring. I don't have it in me. But I wanted to get my unrequited love out. That is you in the avatar, right?

As for Sarkeesian, she was a grifter, a liar, and was a major player in how the current gaming landscape turned out. So, yeah, she's a bit of a cunt. If that's too offensive, I'll delete it.
I know that word isn't very offensive in Europe or Australia. There's other words for her... irrelevant. However, she left her mark. But there are SO many other major players, I'm not going
to give her all the credit. She was just such an obvious fake.

And sure there is a "far left" today. That's just silly to suggest there isn't. There will always be a "far" left or right. It might be different decade to decade, but whoever is the extreme of either side... well, that's them. I would say current far left are the super censorious commie larpers.

You can barely question any far left "truth", on any mass social platform

I can't speak for social media specifically since I'm not on any of it, but out here the sheer amount of people who openly and proudly, just for starters, say they believe the 2020 election was stolen, refuse to get vaccinated against the Covid-19 virus, and cheer the banning of math books with too much "emotional learning" in them makes me doubt that most such folks feel compelled to behave much differently on the likes of Facebook and Twitter, or ever have.

I am talking about social media, specifically. I mean, there's a lot of censorship on campus, but that's not a world I'm super familiar with. As for people saying the 2020 election was stolen... I don't believe that, but why not? The Democrats acted like Trump won by Russian interference, for years. So, they were doing the exact same thing. I think people should just accept what happens, and roll with it. Except when Al Gore lost to George W. Bush, which was so close... and there was obvious shenanigans going on there.

But yes, Twitter has gotten far more censorious. I think you can get banned for calling someone something other than the pronouns they have listed on there. I've gotten in trouble on Twitter for suggesting that trans people may need more mental evaluation, before you start pumping them full of hormones. I wrote this because a trans person was basically threatening suicide on the internet. If someone disagrees, that's fine, and I could be wrong. But the fact I had to delete my posts is what I'm talking about. You can't even have that conversation. Also, pretty harmless satire accounts like Babylon Bee were banned (they're back now).

[Mischief Maker]

As for Sarkeesian, she was a grifter, a liar, and was a major player in how the current gaming landscape turned out. So, yeah, she's a bit of a cunt. If that's too offensive, I'll delete it.
I know that word isn't very offensive in Europe or Australia. There's other words for her... irrelevant. However, she left her mark. But there are SO many other major players, I'm not going
to give her all the credit. She was just such an obvious fake.

As someone who once identified as pro gamergate, looking back in retrospect I've got to hard disagree. She said she was going to make a series of videos identifying female tropes in videogames, and that's what she did. Did she get way more money out of her kickstarter than was necessary for the project? Sure, but she was hardly the only one. The actual concrete critiques of her videos were the most persnickety shit, like how killing hookers in Hitman games technically gave a score penalty.

I don't blame gamers for getting their hackles up, because gaming was and continued to be an easy target for politicians to deflect societal ills onto, including Donald Trump. However, Anita Sarkeesian did not turn out to be Jack Thompson 2.0.

From the perspective of ethics in games journalism, gamergate was an absolute failure. Nowadays perfectly fun games like Shadow Warrior 3 get review-bombed into oblivion because someone labels them "woke." Most of the pro-gamergate influencers have since gone on to exemplify all the worst traits alleged in the "gamers are dead" articles. And the youtube independent reviewers Internet Aristocrat was promising us were the new vanguard of ethical gaming journalism have proven to be even more hilariously incompetent at their jobs than the gamespot reviewers they were supposed to replace.

And if you want to talk about grifters, no one is a more shameless grifter than Gamergate hero Milo Yiannopoulos. He went from the sassy gay anti-feminist poster child of gamergate, to getting caught palling around with literal Nazis like Richard Spencer because someone found out his computer password was "krystalnacht." And now that he fell from grace for a teensy little endorsement of pedophilia, (and since he did not invest the money he made wisely while his star was ascendant), he's now been reduced to claiming to be an ex-gay and selling overpriced crucifixes on Christian shopping networks.

No, gamergate was an unmitigated disaster and there is nothing worth salvaging from that rotting corpse breeding fascist maggots. If Sarkeesian even had any effect on the industry, it was a result of the Steve-Bannon-directed hate mob that publicly descended on her, not the forgettable youtube videos. Cast it aside and memory-hole it.

[BulletMagnet]

The Democrats acted like Trump won by Russian interference, for years. So, they were doing the exact same thing.

What the Democrats have said is that Russia (among others) was spreading pro-Trump misinformation - which, to all appearances, is true - not that the vote itself was illegitimate or "stolen", or that voter rolls needed to be purged, or that the people who counted the ballots were traitors who all needed to be replaced by diehard party loyalists. Sorry, there's no equivalent here.

[Sly Cherry Chunks]

As someone who once identified as pro gamergate, looking back in retrospect I've got to hard disagree. She said she was going to make a series of videos identifying female tropes in videogames, and that's what she did. Did she get way more money out of her kickstarter than was necessary for the project? Sure, but she was hardly the only one. The actual concrete critiques of her videos were the most persnickety shit, like how killing hookers in Hitman games technically gave a score penalty.

Reminder that Sarkeesian inserted herself into gamergate by tweeting out some lie about how "if you support gamergate you implicitly support the harrassment of women in the gaming industry" and then used the controversy to grift all the way to the United Nations.

[Mischief Maker]

As someone who once identified as pro gamergate, looking back in retrospect I've got to hard disagree. She said she was going to make a series of videos identifying female tropes in videogames, and that's what she did. Did she get way more money out of her kickstarter than was necessary for the project? Sure, but she was hardly the only one. The actual concrete critiques of her videos were the most persnickety shit, like how killing hookers in Hitman games technically gave a score penalty.

Reminder that Sarkeesian inserted herself into gamergate by tweeting out some lie about how "if you support gamergate you implicitly support the harrassment of women in the gaming industry" and then used the controversy to grift all the way to the United Nation.

Well you and I may not have been, but like I said, the activities of some of the most prominent pro-gg influencers of the time in the intervening years shows that they certainly were.

I'm not saying she was miss perfect, but when I look back on the rather scant and nitpicky parade of horribles people used at the time to identify her as the digital antichrist, I cringe hard.

[Steamflogger Boss]

I always found Wu to be much more obnoxious than Sarkeesian. Both are easily ignored though.

[BIL]

Wu, a scammer with a long line of silenced victims, isn't really comparable to Sarkeesian, a pastor with an adoring flock who swear their bursitis cleared up after they donated to her.

This is why in my six years' habitual pissing on Wu (with apologies to master BLOODF ), nobody has dared say a peep in her defense. I only quit actively following her scams when Cenk Wrrtqewrtr not only invited her onto his show, but fawningly likened her to black American victims of the KKK. Which is roughly the reverence for victims of racial persecution I would expect from a native Turk, but even so - depressing! At any rate, apart from his nakedly grasping sort, only cum-guzzling ideologues could miss the stench wafting off that creature. (here's one! rare sighting, thank god - they do very poorly in sensibly moderated environments)

"Creature" in the most biblical sense, as Wu is, of course, a creation. On one hand, a detail her cons are easily exposed without. On the other, wailers of "twansphobier" can eat shit. "Don't you dare knock down the tentpole of my carny scam, you Nazi you! I've doused it in the holy water of IDPOL!"

Journo Jim: "Tell me about your childhood."
Gamedev Gary: "I'd rather not. My mother and father were murdered in their own home."
Journo Jim: "I'm sorry."

*smash-cut to 18y/o Gary machinegunning his parents in the living room*

The third member of this fragrant trio, Zoe Quinn, is somewhere in the middle. She's a scammer like Wu, but with the low cunning to dilute her mad claims of proficiency and victimhood - so instead of a coding wunderkind and game design luminary, she's just, y'know, tryna make her silly lil indie games bawww (Chuck Tingle collab any day now, thanks for the funds!), and instead of being menaced by the dread CMDR Stryker and his Battle Prius, she just gets totes mugged (again!), so could you paypal generously?

They're all garbage people, but even garbage varies wildly in offensiveness, from the imperceptible to the atrocious.

[BryanM]

One thing that kind of annoys me about outrage grifters is when they haven't "earned" it; like that one guy who's Thought Slime's mortal enemy, neckbeard dude. (... shit I remember his handle: The Quartering. Why do I know this..) You know, the dude who complains about the new She-Ra series not being sexy enough. While in same breath admitting he doesn't care about She-Ra and never cared about She-Ra in his life. Dude what wai.

I can whine for 30,000 pages about Nintendo butchering Tokyo Mirage Sessions, and feel like I deserve to since I actually like Persona games, and wanted to play it some day in the indistinct distant future. It's not a late stage Angry Video Game Nerd bit, there's some actual emotional investment there.

The Gamer Gator stuff was mostly an outlet for misogynism from day one. Remember what kicked it all off: not the fact that 100% of professional review sites are funded by the corporations they're making reviews of, but that some obscure nobody reviewer rubbed third armpits with some nobody reviewee. If she's anybody now, it's 100% thanks to gamer gate and the only accomplishment of the movement. It's like that classic Grey video about tulips and butterflies: a beautiful hate cycle where two symbiotic forces feed one another in an ironclad alliance.

Outside of pornography and into material things in the real world: Corporate capture of government, where the representatives are effectively the employees of the organizations they're supposed to police, and do a TON of lobbyist and prostitute boinking... well, that's just how things are, isn't it? How is it surprising the video game corpos are advertisers themselves? It's like being angry at fish for swimming in water all day.

[Steamflogger Boss]

The Quartering is a HUGE DORK. I know who he is because I followed way too many MTG related people on twitter who complained about him. Watched maybe a couple videos, very cringe.

Agree with you about game reviews. It's been fucked for awhile. Like, could anyone ever take Nintendo Power reviewing a first party Nintendo game seriously? I thought not.

I trust people I talk to about games, rl or online. People that for sure play games to completion, which definitely isn't required for reviewing now and who knows if it ever was at any review source lol.

[BIL]

I can whine for 30,000 pages about Nintendo butchering Tokyo Mirage Sessions, and feel like I deserve to since I actually like Persona games, and wanted to play it some day in the indistinct distant future. It's not a late stage Angry Video Game Nerd bit, there's some actual emotional investment there.

This is more or less how I viewed Quinn, Wu, and the handful of other mid-2010s "rising indie-dev stars." It's also how I thought of certifiable Old White Man Tom Zito, back in the 90s, when he was slagging off DOOM while promoting... whatever his latest misbegotten thing was. I don't think this particular one even made it out the door. It starred Tia Carrerre, IIRC? (I like to pretend Google doesn't exist )

EDIT: nope, it was Yasmine Bleeth. Also hoooly fuck she were hawt! I'd have been fappin 2 that 4 certain - if I owned the SEGA CD! Although I shudder to think why she'd have ended up working with Zito. Brrr.

Anyway, point being, I love the hard gayming and have a lifetime of mistakes to prove it. If someone proffers me a loaf of steaming shit I'll ask them WTF they think they're doing. If they tell me it's great because [X person] shat it out, I'm gonna commit Internet War Crime, ie, call a loaf a loaf. Nothing personal, no misogyny or transphobia or whatever. The only racially motivated murders you'll find on my rap sheet are of... BAD GAMES

Big differences between mid-90s and now being, I suppose, 1) no internet as we know it back then, so random shitmouths couldn't dominate the airwaves, and 2) the mainstream press vocally despised these trendy new kids du jour, too, lamenting the waste of CD storage on barely-playable FMV shite. Maybe the mags were somewhat more hobbyist back then, I dunno. Perhaps the incentives to suck Bad Game Dick weren't configured as expertly as they'd be a decade later, circa that Kane & Lynch debacle.

I'd like to think Tom being not a fossilised old man but an aging slapper wouldn't have changed that. Maybe I'm wrong there too, oh well. Big ol' audience these days, all kinds of charlatans speaking out of turn. I'm reminded pretty quickly, whenever I poke my nose out of this comfy little den, that even supposed "HARD GAYMERS" aren't really my peoples either. You would think the Souls games - perfectly agreeable oldschool ARPGs, in many ways more generous than their 80s/90s forerunners - were BDSM simulators with bundled nutsack electrocution cables, the way their most vocal consumers carry on. Ok, sure, misnomer these wonderful games as torture racks if that's what it takes. As long as these guys can keep doing their thing, I don't care what John Q Fuckface thinks. That goes x10million for catamite journoscum, obviously.



^^^ The Face Of White Supremacy

[BryanM]

I trust people I talk to about games, rl or online. People that for sure play games to completion, which definitely isn't required for reviewing now and who knows if it ever was at any review source lol.

Yeah, the entire idea of "professional" game reviews is conceptually flawed, it's impossible. They're not paid to play games, they're paid to type words.

It was really apparent during the MMO era, where someone might log in for all of 10 minutes before logging off forever, if they even log in at all. Alongside other long form games like gacha or Cookie Clicker types, it's straight up impossible. They'll all built to span weeks and months. What might be great up front might be bad later, or, very very rarely, vice versa.

Although I shudder to think why she'd have ended up working with Zito. Brrr.

Well that's also someone you might not wanna google. The opposite of Marianne Williamson's thing. Yoga is way better for you than cocaine, no matter how yummy it might taste to your nose.

Which reminds me of how much I was thinking about Chris Farley these days, with all these comedians we grew up with falling dead one after the other. His Matt Foley bit really might be the single funniest thing any human has or will ever do. Like Norm always said of the guy, he could make anyone laugh, even people who hated his guts. You don't even have to know how to speak english to be amused by that bit, pratfalls are universal.

"HARD GAYMERS" aren't really my peoples either. You would think the Souls games - perfectly agreeable oldschool ARPGs, in many ways more generous than their 80s/90s forerunners - were BDSM simulators with bundled nutsack electrocution cables, the way their most vocal consumers carry on.

lol, maybe the "fake gamer" label applies almost as much to them as the Destiny Fomo-esque women using games media to advertise their OnlyFans page.

I'll bitch about boring stuff and tedious chores all day long. But adversity is what makes things memorable. I'll never forget how much of a pain in the ass that underwater bit in Earthworm Jim was to beat.

[BIL]

Although I shudder to think why she'd have ended up working with Zito. Brrr.

Well that's also someone you might not wanna google. The opposite of Marianne Williamson's thing. Yoga is way better for you than cocaine, no matter how yummy it might taste to your nose.

Daww! 3; Broads got it rough getting old. She looks like a chubby mom, although I guess she's got just the dog. That's all some want, or can, and that is fine too! Meanwhile, mans can get old n' bald and keep MAD GAME - especially if you have that white-adjacent beastman perk ala Tyson Fury! Bald as fuck, love handles, top of game! Married too, like a good Irish lad. Minds of man - hands of beast! (kids, print this out and shoot me down in CANCEL FLAMES later on! but beware - like Obama, I too am a beastmutt >:3 In the posting business, we call this a TITLE CALLBACK )

What's more, in ages past, when the old king's hog began to flag, he was faced with only one recourse: a treacherous journey into the heart of Bongo Bongo Land, seeking the elusive Wandering Spider, whose bite will bestow iron-hard hog - but it was just as like he'd get bitten by the dread HIV Moth, or some other unfortunate shit, instead! :[



But now you just say "doc I'm eatin' right and stayin' trim but gosh dang it, my hog's gettin kinda soft!" and he hands you a pill! Once again, legendary hog returns! >;3 Broads can't do anything about them poor saggy titties, never mind the woes of childbearing. 3; And to capitalise upon THAT is imo truly misogynistic, as seen in my previous post's crack at poor Zoe. >¦3

Which reminds me of how much I was thinking about Chris Farley these days, with all these comedians we grew up with falling dead one after the other. His Matt Foley bit really might be the single funniest thing any human has or will ever do. Like Norm always said of the guy, he could make anyone laugh, even people who hated his guts. You don't even have to know how to speak english to be amused by that bit, pratfalls are universal.

There are dudes like that indeed, burn out hard and fast 3; Another of my favourite tragedies is one Johnny Thunders, who legit gave me a jumpscare in one of his last recorded performances. Recording studio was said to be like a fucking charnel house for he and The Heartbreakers' one and only LP, which I guess explains the original pressing's infamously shite production - but even that's all right now!

I once had a friend yeah, he kicked out mah teef

"HARD GAYMERS" aren't really my peoples either. You would think the Souls games - perfectly agreeable oldschool ARPGs, in many ways more generous than their 80s/90s forerunners - were BDSM simulators with bundled nutsack electrocution cables, the way their most vocal consumers carry on.

lol, maybe the "fake gamer" label applies almost as much to them as the Destiny Fomo-esque women using games media to advertise their OnlyFans page.

I'll bitch about boring stuff and tedious chores all day long. But adversity is what makes things memorable. I'll never forget how much of a pain in the ass that underwater bit in Earthworm Jim was to beat.

Sorry I was gonna reply last night, but I was seeing double (FOUR monitors?!) after taking down FOUR KANGZ super early-game! You see, to fight teh KANGZ ahead of schedule, you have to knife a kindly old chap in the back for his keychain, and that's just not what I do, I'm a big weenie like that 3; I wish there was an option to just borrow it off him, or something! So I did the dirty and said "HOREH SHIET" at facing the four bad cunts at low level, but I just about done it! Anyway, I said "Damn bro that ArKnights sounds rough!" and flew out the door like a moth. Anyway commiserations bud that sounds like some AYKSHUAL Hard Gaymer business it's why I stick around here ;3

[BryanM]

It's more of a puzzle game than technical, the error margins are usually within many seconds. A 0% chance of winning quickly becomes a 0% chance of losing, once you know what the hell is going on. ..Usually...

During the hardest challenge events, this built-in assumption of failure often leads to tingles of pride and accomplishment, as one slowly works to make progress on a stage. This isn't one of those events. Yesterday gave me feelings of moderate embarrassment, as I basically ripped the stage's arm off first try using a similar approach I had started with in the first place, before I got lost trying and failing with something more aggressive.

Meanwhile, mans can get old n' bald and keep MAD GAME

Eh, I think a lot of that is men are more likely to do some freakin' actual exercise, and that the women who do aren't as visible. (Poor women's sports..) You can compare Ernie Hudson to the cryptkeeper Bill Murray. Ernie's five years older than that guy, but does some actual bench presses and shit.

There are a lot of women who still have it going on in their 40's and 50's. The ratio is a lot better for those who actually do a little something. (Bodybuilding.com's bodyspace profiles tend to have a high ratio of people who'll actually get off a couch and do a squat or two. It's a different world, man.)

Fat is fine until the body starts piling it on someone's freakin' neck. A threshold where even a small about of weight loss can have a huge impact.

Broads can't do anything about them poor saggy titties

There have been scientific studies that not wearing a bra can improve this by about an inch. The assumption has been that wearing them help cause ligament atrophy. Strength training has a minor effect as well.

One of the biggest fights I had with an internet friend ~20 years ago was that "gravity" has absolutely nothing to do with it. If you can push on something for four years with zero effect, it's obvious that isn't accomplishing anything. (Also if it was "gravity".... yoinking on them with your hands is worth like 2,000,000,000,000 years of gravity's grasping. So far to my knowledge there hasn't been an epidemic of people permanently disfigured by this.)

That Dick Cheney Immortality Serum stuff I talk about, specifically the epigenetic rejuvenation thing, might restore these tissues to a stronger, younger state.

[evil_ash_xero]

I feel that the main tactic of SJWs is to exhaust you, to where you don't care to interact anymore. Because that's what happens
when I start talking to them. I.E. this thread.

The Democrats acted like Trump won by Russian interference, for years. So, they were doing the exact same thing.

What the Democrats have said is that Russia (among others) was spreading pro-Trump misinformation - which, to all appearances, is true - not that the vote itself was illegitimate or "stolen", or that voter rolls needed to be purged, or that the people who counted the ballots were traitors who all needed to be replaced by diehard party loyalists. Sorry, there's no equivalent here.

Nah. Early on it was absolutely a conspiracy of electronic interference. It just got so obvious it wasn't the case, that it faded away. But my memory didn't.

Here's a headline from MSNBC, that I was very easily able to Google.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul responds to the Washington Post's report, telling Rachel Maddow the CIA has now definitively said Russia hacked DNC computers to disrupt the election.
Dec. 9, 2016

Also, while I understand the lunacy of Trump die-hards, are we going to just turn a blind eye to far left groups like Antifa, that set fire to major cities for months, in America? I guess so.
The far left were causing way more damage than the right, up until January 6th. And Democratic officials and liberal "intelligencia" where letting it all slide. Violence breeds violence, is how I saw it. All insane, but still wasn't just "out of nowhere". I was surprised it took that long for the right to get on the same level (in terms of violence) as groups like Antifa. "New Left" folks were even able to take over Portland, with little interference. I don't even know what's going on in that dump now. It was a shit show, though.
I consider myself moderate left, but that's basically "neo nazi" at this point. Well according to the people with the rainbow colored hair, and answers to all of mankind's problems.
The "new left" seem to hate former Leftist heroes like Bill Maher now, who was a standard for Liberalism in the 90s and early 2000s. Times are a changin'.

What are we even arguing about here? I forgot. Gamergate? Good idea, fell apart, and didn't work. It wasn't just a cover for misogyny, you goofball.
I genuinely thought the core idea was correct, and I was proud to have failed with the others. We had our grifters and bad actors, of course. But the opponents... whoa... Sarkeesian, Wu... the list does go on. They were no better, and I would say worse. A lot of the "male feminists" ended up getting in trouble for sexual harassment, so that was something.

I'll go back to other threads, where I talk about things I like, and where people discuss things they like. This just causes animosity. I was into it for a while, but I'm too worn out by it now.
That being said, I had a guy from the hardware thread write me some very hostile messages for asking "stupid questions". So, I guess I can cause anger, wherever I go.
Had to threaten him with saying I was going to contact the mods if he wrote me one more time.

[Mischief Maker]

The Democrats acted like Trump won by Russian interference, for years. So, they were doing the exact same thing.

What the Democrats have said is that Russia (among others) was spreading pro-Trump misinformation - which, to all appearances, is true - not that the vote itself was illegitimate or "stolen", or that voter rolls needed to be purged, or that the people who counted the ballots were traitors who all needed to be replaced by diehard party loyalists. Sorry, there's no equivalent here.

Nah. Early on it was absolutely a conspiracy of electronic interference. It just got so obvious it wasn't the case, that it faded away. But my memory didn't.

Here's a headline from MSNBC, that I was very easily able to Google.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul responds to the Washington Post's report, telling Rachel Maddow the CIA has now definitively said Russia hacked DNC computers to disrupt the election.
Dec. 9, 2016

Yeah, they hacked the DNC. The Democratic National Committee. As in the political party. Nothing to do with the voter rolls or voting machines.

Remember all those embarrassing emails that were given to wikileaks and slowly dribbled out over the final months of the 2016 election to maximize damage to Clinton's reputation? That's what this report was about.

The Russians were attempting to help Trump through reputational damage to his opponent, not hacking the vote count. Nobody claimed that.

Also, while I understand the lunacy of Trump die-hards, are we going to just turn a blind eye to far left groups like Antifa, that set fire to major cities for months, in America?

You're mixing up Antifa and BLM. There was a brief rumor that Antifa caused the 2020 wildfires, but not only was it quickly disproven, police departments were publicly telling people the story was bullshit and to stop spamming their phone lines with false Antifa claims.

And even with BLM, several acts of violence were eventually revealed to be Boogaloo Boys and various other white supremacists trying to spark a race war.

I feel that the main tactic of SJWs is to exhaust you, to where you don't care to interact anymore. Because that's what happens
when I start talking to them. I.E. this thread.

I apologize if being exposed to facts counter to your accepted narrative is tiring.

Maybe find more trustworthy news sources so you don't get into these exhausting situations?

[BryanM]

The most embarrassing thing is dismantling ACORN back in 2010 cost Clinton the election. And the democrats did this on behest of republicans. Because they're paid to lose elections, while keeping reformists and leftists out of power.

The democrats politely laid down and killed themselves when asked to, even gave away a free supreme court justice seat or two or three, there is no more solid an ally to capitalism they could possibly be. The republicans have had uncontested total control of all of society for decades, the income tax is going to be abolished completely in a decade or two... why are these people such horrible, awful winners? Why are they mad at having everything they ever wanted?

You can't assuage grievances that don't exist. They need someone to hate, and they've decided to hate freaks, weirdos, poor people, and half of the sock puppets of the five people with all the money and all the power. But not the other half. That half is fine, their cosmetic features are pleasing. A typical liberal "good billionaires" and "bad billionaires" mentality.

To each their own, but both cocaine and yoga are a better way to pass the time and feel good imo.

Our last president that did anything enduringly positive was freakin' Richard Nixon. This crazy communist made profiteering off of kidney dialysis effectively impossible, and as far as I know is the ONLY fully socialized medical product we have in the US. Insulin which people also need to not die, isn't tho. And any of these epigenome treatments I've been talking about, which might also be necessary to not die, won't be either.

He was the kind of guy who'd eat baby's hearts and kept sending kids into the Vietnam meat grinder. And he's still somehow the last not completely bad president we've had.

[BulletMagnet]

I feel that the main tactic of SJWs is to exhaust you, to where you don't care to interact anymore.

I've mentioned it on here before, but a bit ago Bill Barr did an interview where he said, in a nutshell, that Trump was a liar, a cheat, an incompetent and a bona fide threat to democracy in this country...but he was still going to vote for him.

Hearing some variation on this from every single conservative you attempt to talk to - not to mention every single self-styled "moderate", with many of them citing "SJWs" as their excuse - THAT is fucking exhausting.

[evil_ash_xero]

I feel that the main tactic of SJWs is to exhaust you, to where you don't care to interact anymore.

I've mentioned it on here before, but a bit ago Bill Barr did an interview where he said, in a nutshell, that Trump was a liar, a cheat, an incompetent and a bona fide threat to democracy in this country...but he was still going to vote for him.

Hearing some variation on this from every single conservative you attempt to talk to - not to mention every single self-styled "moderate", with many of them citing "SJWs" as their excuse - THAT is fucking exhausting.

Neither Bill Maher or Bill Burr ever said they were going to vote for Trump. I don't know who you're speaking of.

And I knew I was asking for it when I used the term "SJW". I'll take whatever.

[BryanM]

Bill Burr is indeed a funnyman, Magnet. There was one time he came across One Punch Man on Netflix and mentioned enjoying it. Reactionaries got up in his ass calling him a weeb and shit for being able to enjoy a cartoon. No matter what you do man, there'll always be someone there to tell you it's wrong.

Bill was a Bernieman, which automatically makes him less evil than anyone who didn't vote for the guy in the primary. Of course he's still a reactionary on some things - as soon as it's a single dollar of his millionaire horde you're talking about taxing, he's ready to murder and kill people. That's just very typical human nature.

And I knew I was asking for it when I used the term "SJW"

The word you're looking for is "hippy", Ash. Don't use made up slurs by Culture Justice Warriors; I know the old ones start to lose their impact so it's necessary to make up brand new ones every couple years, but doing so demonstrates your terminal values: you care far more about dehumanizing The Enemy in some eternal war that never goes anywhere and signaling your exclusive membership in some Terminally Online Club, then ever accomplishing anything. It's the same thing liberals do when they say stuff like "ignorant rednecks", it's just a tool to make sure those people stay out of your tribe. Throwing gang signs, in simple terms. It's cringy and weird at this point; in internet terms that slur cycle is like a thousand years old by now. Only grandpas who wear their pants up to their neck are that behind in the times.

I swear to god you guys once called someone a SJW for being angry at a guy for poisoning people with lead pipes in order to make a buck. That's a little bit further than putting a guy with pink hair into a video game, eh.

Just use "hippy", you'd be so much cooler. Sheesh, why do I have to be the conservative here..... damn kids trying to change things that don't need changing.... grrr....

[BulletMagnet]

Neither Bill Maher or Bill Burr ever said they were going to vote for Trump. I don't know who you're speaking of.

...I almost hope I'm just being trolled.

Even ignoring that "lapse" on your part, there's no way in hell you missed my larger point, namely that an increasing amount of people - which, judging by your posts here, would appear to include you - are willing to ignore almost everything else in the name of resisting "political correctness" or "cancel culture" or whatever you want to call it (no, my reaction to you last post was not based on your use of the term "SJW" ). And whatever legitimate concerns you might have when it comes to freedom of speech - a few posts ago I mentioned, as just one example, Florida's current push to ban math textbooks with too much "emotional learning" content, which I assume also upsets you? - considering that these acts are being perpetrated by private citizens (if you approve of the "creative" Texas anti-abortion law, you shouldn't have a problem with this, right?) and not the government (please, please don't make me link that xkcd comic again - and before you say "Twitter bans!" please consider for a moment just how utterly vile someone's actions have to be for a for-profit company to say it doesn't want their business), it utterly baffles me how, out of all the things going on in the world at the moment, this is the hill that so many people are supposedly willing to die on, when its core principle (to defend my right to speech I'm denying your right to speak critically of me) doesn't even make sense.

[evil_ash_xero]

Neither Bill Maher or Bill Burr ever said they were going to vote for Trump. I don't know who you're speaking of.

...I almost hope I'm just being trolled.

Wrong guy. Bill Burr is a popular stand up comedian, and Bill Maher is the former host of Politically Incorrect and current host of Real Time on HBO. He was the proto "Comedian Liberal
with a TV Show" before Daily Show, and all that.
I think somewhere in the older posts you saw me mention Bill Burr, and didn't realize who that was, and thought I said Barr. These are American personalities, so you may
not know them (I think you're in Europe).

Also, I haven't looked into these current events your are speaking of, so I am not really willing to give an opinion. I dipped out of politics a while back.
I am interested in freedom of speech, however, and always will be. No matter how uncomfortable it is. A lot of people on Twitter have been banned or shadow banned,
and it's so light weight, you have to wonder why. I'm shadow banned. My Twitter is milquetoast.

But I don't want to get into it anymore. Sorry for kicking the hornet's nest.