My government did.BareKnuckleRoo wrote:???system11 wrote:You do understand that vaccinated people are catching and passing it around to the point where more of them in raw numbers are doing it than unvaccinated?
I'm not sure who told you this (given the lack of a source) but whoever it is has given you wildly incorrect information. This also contradicts basic epidemiology tenets, so it's safe to say at face value it's a misunderstanding, if not outright bullshit.
"In the context of very high vaccine coverage in the population, even with a highly effective vaccine, it is expected that a large proportion of cases, hospitalisations and deaths would occur in vaccinated individuals, simply because a larger proportion of the population are vaccinated than unvaccinated and no vaccine is 100% effective. This is especially true because vaccination has been prioritised in individuals who are more susceptible or more at risk of severe disease."
It's basic logic when group B vastly outnumbers group A.
Also:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... y-suggests
Yes, completely agree, but as I say - until those examples were proven to be true, people stating them were being hounded and accused of spreading misinformation, because it was politically convenient to do so.It's completely normal that you'd expect many of these to be updated as we get new information and data, given that COVID-19 is a completely new disease we do not have much information about. This is how science works; we revise our methodologies when new evidence is available.
I literally suffered a serious side effect. I am now at increased risk of skin cancer, for the rest of my life. My legs are disfigured. Feel free to disagree with my doctor if it makes you feel better. You can add my dentist too, who remarked that she had another patient who experienced the same thing. Go and look at the yellow card system and adverse reaction reporting statistics. Discount the 'had a headache and my arm hurt boohoo' ones, and look at all the rest. A lot of them are not 'trivial' side effects even though they may not be dead. It's true that many of these are unproven observations, balance against the likelyhood of unreported ones.This one is 100% misleading misinformation. It's pure fearmongering.That the vaccines could cause death or serious side effects.
Agreed, pretty rare, but I'm tired of seeing people downplay and outright attack people who have had an adverse outcome. I'm also not particulary impressed with the UK government pushing it out to very young children against medical advice, but we're doing it anyway. Government was advised:For an example of how rare the side effects are, the government of Canada is reporting only 0.011% of doses resulted in an "adverse event following immunization" that was a serious health risk. That's damn good odds.
"Overall, the committee is of the opinion that the benefits from vaccination are marginally greater than the potential known harms (tables 1 to 4) but acknowledges that there is considerable uncertainty regarding the magnitude of the potential harms. The margin of benefit, based primarily on a health perspective, is considered too small to support advice on a universal programme of vaccination of otherwise healthy 12 to 15-year-old children at this time. As longer-term data on potential adverse reactions accrue, greater certainty may allow for a reconsideration of the benefits and harms. Such data may not be available for several months."
And yet....
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-chi ... s-12495493
I am generally in favour of the vaccinations, but the demonisation of people who may simply be scared, brushing under the carpet the growing number of problems this has caused, the relentless push for digital ID (Covid is simply the opportunity that appeared first) and ignoring our own medical advice for optics - that all has to fucking stop.