Looking for a monitor for high end S-VHS/ED-Betamax

[shaocaholica]

I've got some S-VHS and ED-Betamax players I'm playing with and I would like to pair them with a nice display.

S-VHS is rated at 420 lines
ED-Beta is rated at 500 lines (I guess I need PAL to fully utilize all 500?)

I've been trying to hunt down one of the last gen 34" SFP/HS Sony Trinitron TVs locally but was wondering if there is anything else that might be more convenient than a 200-300 pound CRT TV. 20" broadcast monitor is OK but not great for multiple people watching a movie. Any good plasmas that can handle 480i well and has s-video/YC inputs?


edit: Oh I see the Panasonic TH-42PWD6UY is 852 x 480. I wonder how well it handles interlaced content?

edit2: I've also got a line on a local Sony KV-40XBR800 but that thing is 304 pounds.

[Guspaz]

Do you really need a CRT for this? This is film content, it was never meant to be on a CRT in the first place. Modern TVs can deinterlace content just fine, the problem we often run into is that they try to deinterlace 240p content when they shouldn't, not that they can't deinterlace.

Modern TVs don't often have S-Video inputs, but converting from S-Video to component is cheap/easy, and component inputs are still pretty universal (every 32" Samsung TV currently made has them for example). Even converting right to HDMI isn't expensive, and the normal gaming concerns with lag don't apply to video content.

[Fudoh]

This is film content, it was never meant to be on a CRT in the first place.

you don't know what he's watching.

[Ed Oscuro]

Ha, I don't get you guys, no offense. He specifically said 480i and movies, so yes, we know what he's watching (roughly) and we know it's formatted for CRTs.

For my $0.002 I watched a prerecorded VHS of Jurassic Park on the cheapo LG TV I've got and it looked actually stunning with the fine details showing up well on that screen better than they would have on the old 50" Mitsu projection TV. So, even given that 480i formatting, it still works well enough being presented on a display which is a bit more like a cinema screen. Unfortunately I don't remember what interlacing performance was like, but I don't think interlacing was actually obtrusive there.

[darcagn]

Do you really need a CRT for this? This is film content, it was never meant to be on a CRT in the first place. Modern TVs can deinterlace content just fine, the problem we often run into is that they try to deinterlace 240p content when they shouldn't, not that they can't deinterlace.

The content is in 480i so regardless of the source material, it's currently in a format that was intended to be viewed on a display that can natively display alternating lines. That's a CRT.

[shaocaholica]

How well do these Panasonic plasmas handle 480i? I have a local guy selling a TH-42PHD8UK which I guess is 720p rated.

[bobrocks95]

I'm not sure how a TH-42PHD8 would look, but I have a TH-42PWD8 (854 x 480) that looks great for what it is. The deinterlacing is definitely video-biased, it doesn't look great on games. I'd have to get back to you on how the deinterlacing looks with film sources, guess I could set the PS2's DVD player to 480i.

[cfx]

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[shaocaholica]

I guess the question is if plasmas look decent without any de-interlacing by showing the individual fields of a 480i source. How would it compare to a CRT like a monitor or a consumer TV like a super fine pitch or high scan trinitron?

What would film footage with 3:2 pulldown over s-video at 480i look like going through a Framemeister?!?!

[nissling]

This is film content, it was never meant to be on a CRT in the first place.

You are aware of that the vast majority of all films produced since the 70s are secondary optimized for CRTs (while primary for theater screenings)? Of course I'm aware of 3:2 cadance and interlacing, but it doesn't change the fact that CRTs was the overall standard for a very long time in color crading and such. It wasn't until 2011/12 that OLEDs could fully replace them.