Nintendo is trolling again. Why would you sell a handheld without an AC adapter?The AC adapter is being sold separately for Europe and Japan. In North America, the AC adapter is included.
Is it compatible with the fat first gen DS adapters? I lost mine and thinking about to buy a new one, so I would probably get this monstrosity since it hurts me to see my DS game collection collecting dust.It's compatible with DSi/XL a/c adapters
GaijinPunch wrote:I don't have 40 minutes to do anything other than fist myself these days.
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Why would you sell a handheld (a device people take with them when travelling to different regions) with region lock?Teufel_in_Blau wrote:Nintendo is trolling again. Why would you sell a handheld without an AC adapter?The AC adapter is being sold separately for Europe and Japan. In North America, the AC adapter is included.
No, DSi/DSi XL/3DS/3DS XL have a different socket than DS/DS Lite.Teufel_in_Blau wrote:Is it compatible with the fat first gen DS adapters? I lost mine and thinking about to buy a new one, so I would probably get this monstrosity since it hurts me to see my DS game collection collecting dust.It's compatible with DSi/XL a/c adapters
Every time I hear this I keep thinking of that damn infomercial.Nico87 wrote:Circle Pad Pro
I can't stand region locking though, it just ruins the opportunity to access a wider market, while abroad or buying online.Friendly: While I agree that region locks in general is dumb as all hell, your argument about people taking their 3DS on travels to other regions make no sense. Most people take games with them on their travels if they're bringing a handheld with them.
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MX7 wrote:I'm not a fan of a racist, gun nut brony puking his odious and uninformed arguments over every thread that comes up.
Drum wrote:He's also a pederast. Presumably.
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"no second analog stick" isn't a comment. it's a fact.Skykid wrote:Why does Friendly have to put a negative comment in the thread title of any console not relating to Sony?
The Vita thread isn't called: "The PS Vita appreciation thread for a console with no games that anyone wants to play."
And it's also a comment. It's not hard to put the information relating to the machine in the OP and just leave the thread title clean.Turrican wrote:"no second analog stick" isn't a comment. it's a fact.Skykid wrote:Why does Friendly have to put a negative comment in the thread title of any console not relating to Sony?
The Vita thread isn't called: "The PS Vita appreciation thread for a console with no games that anyone wants to play."
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So you... can actually see shit a little better when it's further away? Historically we haven't used displays that are precisely the same as a system's resolution. Never played DQ4 with it being this size:Jonathan Ingram wrote:What`s even the point of this piece of junk? The screen is still the same pathetically low resolution as the original 3DS, only it`s bigger now meaning things will look even blurrier.
Lol, right on time for Nintendo! How long did it take them to revise the GBA and DS, it couldn't have been too much longer?BryanM wrote:Jesus almighty they do these quick.
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A second analog stick is more or less a requirement for any game with a third-person perspective and camera controls. Arguing otherwise and trying to make up excuses for the lack of it is just stupid.MX7 wrote:Why would it even need a second analogue stick? No other Nintendo handhelds have had one, and Nintendo handhelds have consistently better games than other handhelds, even other consoles. PSP and Vita are supremely boring precisely because the dual analogue setup just means that they're a dumping ground for shitty Playstation ports. Can't fucking wait to play Final Fantasy 10 in the bath. Yawn.
But thrilled for the 3DS versions of Ocarina of Time(N64), Tales of the Abyss(PS2), Devil Survivor Overclocked(a straight-up DS port lol) and Monster Hunter Tri G(Wii), am I right? Also, FFX has fixed camera angles and the second analog stick isn`t used for anything(IIRC), so why was it even brought up in the first place?Can't fucking wait to play Final Fantasy 10 in the bath. Yawn.
The 3DS` screen resolution is inadequate for the quality of graphics the system can produce. Yes, this new revision will make things easier to see, but the image quality will be even worse.BryanM wrote:So you... can actually see shit a little better when it's further away?
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Here it is:Skykid wrote:Now where the fuck is my F-Zero?
For the most part, you're right. But, it depends on whether you can, for example, control the walking in an FPS using the 4 face buttons (keeping in mind that WASD controls are digital too). For racing games, it doesn't matter much either. I agree generally that it's preferable, but it's possible to design well-controlling 3d games that don't need it. N64 and Dreamcast 3d games were plenty playable, and there were plenty of good games on the PS1 and Saturn which didn't need dual analog either (which didn't come out until late on PS1 AFAIR, and Saturn only had the one stick eventually). Finally, there are Wii games like Zelda and Mario Galaxy which only use a single analog control.A second analog stick is more or less a requirement for any game with a third-person perspective and camera controls. Arguing otherwise and trying to make up excuses for the lack of it is just stupid.
I concur. I was going to say the N64 had only a single analog nub but I found the 3D controllability in many of its games some of the most solid I've encountered. I don't know whether that was purely down to first-party ingenuity, but since it's the same first-party for 3DS I don't think there's any need for panic.louisg wrote:For the most part, you're right. But, it depends on whether you can, for example, control the walking in an FPS using the 4 face buttons (keeping in mind that WASD controls are digital too).A second analog stick is more or less a requirement for any game with a third-person perspective and camera controls. Arguing otherwise and trying to make up excuses for the lack of it is just stupid.
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Sure, there are genres that don`t need the second analog stick by their very nature(like racing games which you have already mentioned). Games with fixed camera angles don`t need one either. But that doesn`t mean that it`s not pretty much a requirement for a very large number of games produced these days. If it wasn`t, Nintendo wouldn`t have bothered producing that ugly add-on. Monster Hunter 3G, the most popular third-party game for the 3DS, would be utter crap without it. Just like the PSP Monster Hunter games had been before it when you had to use the D-pad to control the camera which lead to the infamous "claw" control method coming in existence.louisg wrote:For the most part, you're right. But, it depends on whether you can, for example, control the walking in an FPS using the 4 face buttons (keeping in mind that WASD controls are digital too). For racing games, it doesn't matter much either. I agree generally that it's preferable, but it's possible to design well-controlling 3d games that don't need it. N64 and Dreamcast 3d games were plenty playable, and there were plenty of good games on the PS1 and Saturn which didn't need dual analog either (which didn't come out until late on PS1 AFAIR, and Saturn only had the one stick eventually).
They don`t. The Wiimote is used as a substitute for the second stick in this case, and a poor one at that given how you can`t freely rotate the camera around your character(compare Zelda TP(GC) to Zelda TP(Wii) and Okami(PS2) to Okami(Wii)).Finally, there are Wii games like Zelda and Mario Galaxy which only use a single analog control.
Snaking is cheating, pure and simple. I wouldn`t even have learned about it had I not read about it on the internet. It`s also a bit tricky to pull off and not everybody can do it either. I cleared the entire game without ever having to resort to snaking.Drum wrote:Re:F-Zero GX has worse gameplay than X due to the broken snaking physics, unfortunately, and it sticks so closely in all other respects to the model that X provided that it can scarcely be considered an original work, let alone some unparalleled work of genius. It also lacks the X Cup and has worse music. Not that Nintendo would ever develop another F-Zero in-house again - once they start out-sourcing stuff it seems like they're done with it in terms of putting in-house devs on it. I can see them giving it to the Monster guys, who are quite capable.
My impression is that the second stick was pretty much made for MH3G, because it's such a big seller. The fact that this new model doesn't have a second stick seems to imply that there are no plans to widely support it.Jonathan Ingram wrote: Monster Hunter 3G, the most popular third-party game for the 3DS, would be utter crap without it. Just like the PSP Monster Hunter games had been before it when you had to use the D-pad to control the camera which lead to the infamous "claw" control method coming in existence.
JSR has always bugged me. But they also didn't bother to put more than one camera control in-- something that is certainly possible even without a second analog stick (IIRC they didn't even use all the buttons in that game). And the camera in that game was genuinely bad in a way that Tony Hawk's camera (as just one example) never was.And I disagree on Dreamcast games. Many of them would`ve definitely benefited from the second analog stick. Jet Set Radio in particular would`ve been a much better game. IIRC, it lacked any means of controlling the camera save for the "position the camera in front of you" button. Truly horrid stuff.
Yep, it would've been ideal. Like I pointed out, smart camera is hard to implement (or impossible if you want a completely 100% open level design), so it would be good for those games, or for devs who aren't up to the task. I'd still argue though that having to ride the camera constantly takes you out of the game a bit, so I'd rank the solutions from ideal to least ideal: 1.) Smart camera which never or rarely needs player interaction 2.) Second stick to point the camera where you need it (or at least some means of swiveling the camera), and lastly, the worst, problematic cameras with no way of adjusting them (or way too limited control, like in JSR).Still, I don`t see why it`s even an argument. The second analog has been a norm since forever and should be taken for granted these days. All Nintendo has done is created problems for developers and inconvenience for its customers. There`s no reason why they shouldn`t have included the second analog stick in the original 3DS design, but alas, that`s exactly what they did.
All you use the Wiimote for in Galaxy is to point at stars. It's not really used in movement-- that is mapped to the digital D-pad buttons IIRC (which could've just been triggers since so much of the action happens on a plane). It's actually never been an issue for me in all the time I've spent with Galaxy, and didn't bug me in Zelda from what little I played of it. I've logged a lot of time on Galaxy, too-- played through 1 and beat 2 twice.They don`t. The Wiimote is used as a substitute for the second stick in this case, and a poor one at that given how you can`t freely rotate the camera around your character(compare Zelda TP(GC) to Zelda TP(Wii) and Okami(PS2) to Okami(Wii)).Finally, there are Wii games like Zelda and Mario Galaxy which only use a single analog control.
