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 Post subject: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:01 pm 


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While the top25 works well enough and is a good idea in principle, there are so many shmups out there that a large amount of them get completely ignored because the usual suspects always make their way to the top of the lists.

This is just a simple way to reduce the amount of choice and hopefully get more interesting results.




Here are the rules:

-The games have to have been made specifically for home console, not ported from arcade. If the game is vastly different from the original, say Section Z on nes, it will be accepted.

-Post exactly 10 games.

-Post in order from best to worst (see example).

-Consoles only, no computers.

-Console exclusive arrange modes DO NOT count as "Games".

-Entries that break any rules will be ignored.

-Games ported from Home Computers (Zanac NES, Aleste SMS) are ok.





Here's an example of what a list could be (no need for fancy formatting):
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1. Gradius Gaiden
2. Zanac
3. Recca
4. Star Soldier
5. Section Z (nes)
6. Crisis force
7. Abadox
8. Burai Fighter
9. Gun Nac
10. Gradius V
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:07 pm 


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Since it can be a bit hard to remember all the games from the different console eras, here is an *incomplete* list of games that fit the rules.

Disclaimer: I might forget quite a few "good" ones.

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NES:
    Recca
    Zanac
    Gunnac
    Star Soldier
    Crisis Force
    Abadox
    Blade Buster
    Hector 87
    Over horizon
    TwinBee 3


PCE(including cd):
    Super Star Soldier
    Final Soldier
    Soldier Blade
    Gunhed
    Override
    Cybercore
    Winds of Thunder/Lord of Thunder
    Gate of Thunder
    Nexzr
    Sapphire
    Star Parodia
    Spriggan
    Spriggan Mark 2
    Sylphia


Megadrive/Genesis:
    Verytex
    Gleylancer
    Slap Fight MD
    Musha
    Thunderforce II
    Thunderforce III
    Thunderforce IV
    Eliminate Down
    Elemental Master
    Gaiares
    Gynoug
    Steel Empire
    Sol-Deace


SNES:
    Super Aleste
    R-type III
    Axelay
    Biometal
    Jikkyou Parodius
    Darius Twin
    Darius Force


Saturn:
    Blast Wind
    Thunderforce V


PSX:
    Gradius Gaiden
    Einhander
    R-Type Delta
    Zanac Neo
    Harmful Park
    Jikkyou Parodius
    Philosoma

PS2:
    Shienryu Explosion
    ThunderForce VI
    Gradius V
    R-Type Final

Other consoles:
    Omega Five
    Judgement Silversword
    Eschatos
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:07 pm 


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Regarding how specific the rules are, this is on purpose, sometimes less is more.

The results should be much more interesting that way.


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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:17 pm 


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1. Soldier Blade
2. Cardinal Sins
3. Seisou Kouki Strania
4. Thunderforce V
5. Shienryu Explosion
6. Einhander
7. Gleylancer
8. Blade Buster
9. Macross Scrambled Valkyrie
10. Axelay

I didn't think I could do it, I almost wrote Gradius V or R-Type Final just to fill in the last couple of spaces.

Edit - forgot a few, edited a couple of entries
Edit 2 - fine, switching Bangai-O for something else
Edit 3 - well damn I didn't realize Strania was eligible despite the NESiCAxLive release
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:58 pm 


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Do homecomputer games count?


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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:14 pm 



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1. Axelay
2. Thunder Force V
3. Gradius Gaiden
4. Gradius V
5. Thunder Force IV
6. Cardinal Sins
7. Eschatos
8. R-Type III: The Third Lightning
9. R-Type Delta
10. Harmful Park


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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:15 pm 



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I'm sure no one will disagree with the following most definitive list of shmups to ever show exclusively at home:

1. The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
2. Shoot the Bullet
3. Imperishable Night
4. Immaterial and Missing Power
5. Perfect Cherry Blossom
6. Lotus Land Story
7. Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
8. Undefined Fantastic Object
9. ⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨
10. Mountain of Faith


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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:17 pm 



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I don't think that list is a great idea, nimitz--we want this to be completely subjective.

Edited my personal list due to the existence of Harmful Park.


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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:21 pm 


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Home computer games DO NOT count
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
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You're going to organize these by number of votes, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:30 pm 


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nimitz wrote:
Home computer games DO NOT count

Why? Apidya or Uridium, just off the top of my head, deserve some applause.
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:36 pm 


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1. R-Type Delta (PS1)
2. Gradius Gaiden (PS1)
3. Thunder Force V (PS1/Saturn)
4. Harmful Park (PS1)
5. Recca (Famicom)
6. Judgement Silversword (WSC/XBox 360)
7. Nexzr (PCE)
8. Gradius V (PS2)
9. Star Soldier (PS2)
10.ZAS (GB)
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:59 pm 


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1. Gradius V (PS2)
2. Harmful Park (PS1)
3. Gate of Thunder (PCE)
4. Thunderforce III (MD)
5. Gleylancer (MD)
6. Judgement Silversword (WSC/XBox 360)
7. Recca (FC)
8. Musha (MD)
9. Spriggan (PCE)
10. R-Type III (SFC)
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:06 pm 


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1 Recca
2 Gradius V
3 Musha
4 Gynoug (Wings of Wor)
5 Spriggan
6 Enhander
7 Wings of Thunder
8 Harmfull Park
9 Gun Nac
10 Score Rush
EDIT not quite shmups but I cant help making honerable mentions of REZ HD and Sin and Punishment 2

I havnt played any of the Soldier Blade series, Later R-Types, Gradius Gaiden, Gleylancer or Strania & Escatos yet but ive a funny feeling ild like them, Plus ive only had a few goes of the thunderforce games so I cant really list em, since I never developed a taste for them, but they have a similar feel as Gynoug to me.
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:06 pm 


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A silly question I'm sure, but would arranged modes found only on consoles count? Many of them are far removed from the original.
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:07 pm 



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dunpeal2064 wrote:
A silly question I'm sure, but would arranged modes found only on consoles count? Many of them are far removed from the original.

Answered.
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-Console exclusive arrange modes DO NOT count as "Games".


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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:08 pm 


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Marc wrote:
nimitz wrote:
Home computer games DO NOT count

Why? Apidya or Uridium, just off the top of my head, deserve some applause.


I assume because then the crap that is Touhou would have to be accepted, too.
Of course nimitz could allow home computers (= 8 and 16-Bit computers like MSX and Amiga) but exclude PC...

Anway, small price to pay to invalidate entries like this by people who lack taste and reading skills:
BeruBeru wrote:
1. The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
2. Shoot the Bullet
3. Imperishable Night
4. Immaterial and Missing Power
5. Perfect Cherry Blossom
6. Lotus Land Story
7. Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
8. Undefined Fantastic Object
9. ⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨
10. Mountain of Faith


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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:14 pm 


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Iori Branford wrote:
dunpeal2064 wrote:
A silly question I'm sure, but would arranged modes found only on consoles count? Many of them are far removed from the original.

Answered.
Quote:
-Console exclusive arrange modes DO NOT count as "Games".


Gotcha. No reason to vote with how exclusive the list to pick from is.
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:16 pm 


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I like top 10 lists, maybe we could do the same thing for arcade, PC and Borderliner Shooters?

I much prefer these types of specific lists over the top 20-25? shmups of all time since its always the biggest names that everybody puts down, Atleast with these the games are more niche and intresting
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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:17 pm 


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TrevHead (TVR) wrote:
5 Trigger Heart Excelica (theres no arcade version of this right?)
10 Castle Of Shikigami 2


Those two are arcade games, sorry :P


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 Post subject: Re: Top 10 Console Exclusive Shmups of All Time - Voting
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:20 pm 


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Aliquantic wrote:
TrevHead (TVR) wrote:
5 Trigger Heart Excelica (theres no arcade version of this right?)
10 Castle Of Shikigami 2


Those two are arcade games, sorry :P


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Do I really need to put a "SARCASM" (or trolling) flag above comments like mine because they are not obvious enough?
Also, isn't two fighting games in the list makes this even more obvious?

Friendly wrote:
Marc wrote:
nimitz wrote:
Home computer games DO NOT count

Why? Apidya or Uridium, just off the top of my head, deserve some applause.


I assume because then the crap that is Touhou would have to be accepted, too.
Of course nimitz could allow home computers (= 8 and 16-Bit computers like MSX and Amiga) but exclude PC...

Anway, small price to pay to invalidate entries like this by people who lack taste and reading skills:
BeruBeru wrote:
1. The Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
2. Shoot the Bullet
3. Imperishable Night
4. Immaterial and Missing Power
5. Perfect Cherry Blossom
6. Lotus Land Story
7. Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
8. Undefined Fantastic Object
9. ⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨⑨
10. Mountain of Faith


Anyway for my real list:

1. Gradius V
2. R-Type Delta
3. Recca
4. Super Star Soldier
5. R-Type Final
6. Axelay
7. R-Type 3
8. Thunderforce 3
9. Lords of Thuner
10. Bangai-O


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:18 pm 


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1. Nexzr
2. Recca
3. Gradius V
4. Super Aleste/ Space Megaforce
5. Spriggan
6. R-Type Delta
7. Winds Of Thunder
8. Thunder Force V
9. Gunhed/ Blazing Lasers
10. Blade Buster (NES) or, if that's not allowed for some reason, then Judgement Silversword

Respect to the OP- the excellence of these games should not be overlooked :D
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:25 pm 


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1. Gradius Gaiden PSX
2. Musha Genesis
3. Super Aleste SNES
4. Thunder Force III Genesis
5. Thunder Force IV/Lightening Force Genesis
6. Gun Nac NES
7. Pop 'n Twinbee SFC
8. Nemesis Gameboy
9. Beamrider Intellivision
10. Twinbee 3 FC

Edit: Took off Zanac since it's ported from a computer (MSX). Same reason I left Power Strike/Aleste SMS off the list.


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1. Nexzr
2. Recca
3. Gradius Gaiden
4. Judgement Silversword
5. Eschatos
6. Musha Aleste
7. R-Type Delta
8. Eliminate Down
9. Harmful Park
10. Slap Fight MD*

*(This is a completely original game with different levels, graphics and music; basically a sequel to Slap Fight)

Edit: Very good, I see that nimitz has since updated his list above to include Slap Fight MD.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:53 am 


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1. Thunder Force IV
2. Gleylancer
3. Thunder Force V
4. Thunder Force II
5. Thunder Force III
6. MUSHA
7. Einhänder
8. Recca
9. Gun-Nac
10. Zanac

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I havnt played any of the Soldier Blade series, Later R-Types, Gradius Gaiden, Gleylander or Strania & Escatos yet but ive a funny feeling ild like them, Plus ive only had a few goes of the thunderforce games so I cant really list em, since I never developed a taste for them, but they have a similar feel as Gynoug to me.

Your misspelling is borderline blasphemy, but do have a go at Gleylancer - I highly recommend it. If the difficulty makes you feel like you wanna sleep on the keyboard, there's Maniac mode but I can never remember how to enable it.
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