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 Post subject: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:27 pm 



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I've never hit a wall like this so early in a shmup before. Well, maybe the first boss of Dogyuun, but he's a pushover when I'm using the two-player fusion ship.

So the second boss of V-Five: he starts out with the turrets, which are easily dealt with. Then we move up to the side-homing lasers that we're all so familiar with from countless other shmups. I can handle the first time they're fired, but then he summons all these popcorn drones to rush you, while firing a few bullet spreads on top. Any two of these elements by themselves would be no problem, but with all three combined, I can't beat him even with a full shield and a maxed-out frontal laser. Oh, and the game drops you back to a checkpoint when you die.

When I use search lasers, the popcorns are taken care of, but they're so weak that I have to stay alive for too long. Using missiles poses the same problem, though they're a bit stronger.

Anyone able to help me out, or should I just play it on Grind Stormer?


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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:47 pm 


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Stick to the default shot and spread the options in a V pattern in a way that destroy all drones the moment they come out. Then it's just a matter of going up and down to avoid the lasers, and to the sides to dodge the bullets.

This reminds me, I have a 1st loop no-miss run sitting here that I need to upload to youtube...
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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:53 pm 



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Still gave me a bitch of a time, but I finally beat him with your strategy! Thanks!

Between this, Night Slave, and Psycho-Nics Oscar, I'm convinced that more non-Gradius games should have Gradius powerup bars.


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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:33 pm 


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Personally, I use the option missles on that boss... when I tried it other ways, I found it difficult as you described. I actually find the missles to be the most useful for the first 3 or 4 stages, after which I prefer to switch to the normal shot (options forward for the powerful laser).
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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:45 pm 


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Do you guys prefer V-V to Grind Stormer? I haven't given V-V much time yet, but it seems like the game might be better with the gradius power-up style.


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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:18 pm 


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I think the game was originally meant to be played with the power-up bar, so I ended up sticking with V-V. But you should play whatever version you like more.

Keep in mind, however, that Grindstormer is way harder than V-V. In V-V you can recharge your shields repeatedly just like in Gradius, while in Grindstormer you have 3 bombs to save yourself and not many more come by.

The biggest difference is in the 2nd loop. In V-V the suicide bullets are aimed and they all go in a straight line, while in Grindstormer they are 'sprayed' in your direction. Killing many enemies at once will flood the screen with bullets and force you to waste a bomb.
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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:08 pm 


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I prefer the Genesis'/Mega Drive port, which includes both games. I mean that if one wants to play V-Five, he should stick to the port; anyway, for MAME there are better games.
If one has had big dificulties in passing the second boss, he must stick to the port, because it is easier. Anyway, there are better games.


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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:55 pm 


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Arcade Legends 3 wrote:
I prefer the Genesis'/Mega Drive port, which includes both games. I mean that if one wants to play V-Five, he should stick to the port; anyway, for MAME there are better games.
If one has had big dificulties in passing the second boss, he must stick to the port, because it is easier. Anyway, there are better games.


Eh, better than that 1944 crap :P


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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:06 am 



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Arcade Legends 3 wrote:
(wtf)

Leave it to the Bulgarians to turn out insane posts like this.

What kind of reasoning is that? Because "better games" exist on MAME, everything else needs to be played on muddy inaccurate console ports? Furthermore, I think V-5 is easily one of my top 15 favorite shmups!


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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:23 am 


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Leave it to the Bulgarians to turn out insane posts like this.

Hey man...
Fine. I will forgive you.
Maybe I will forgive you all the times - if you are just not in my class. (You are an English - and you English-men have traditions in duels, right?)
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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:33 am 


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Your smartness actually is not enough to understand the two poinst of mine...
So I will just forgive you.
(V-Five is relatively very cheap.)

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Eh, better than that 1944 crap

p.p.s. Hey man? Hello? Try to get to the sixth stage on one credit...


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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:31 am 


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Hey? Umm, hello? You there ACL3? Can you hear me?

So, difficulty in reaching Stage 6 in one credit makes a good game?

You go play Pink Sweets and get to st6, and I'll consider attempting it in 1944 ;)


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 Post subject: Re: RQ: V-Five (Toaplan) - second boss
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:40 pm 



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Arcade Legends 3 doesn't know that "New England" is part of the US.

I think we can safely invalidate anything more he has to say.


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