DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
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spineshark
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Yeah, I got the whole back half of stage 4 since I've been spending most of my practice time on that. I still need more work on the front side though, since I rely on boost hypers a lot just to make sure I don't lose chain or get hit. Still just ending up with weak hit counts, but there's plenty of ways to work on that.
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Finally get this damn full chain on 1st loop.
1.5
øS.back - 344.031.700.810 - Boss 2-3 (omote) - B/Power
1.5
øS.back - 344.031.700.810 - Boss 2-3 (omote) - B/Power
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Most excellent. You have #1 B-P score on the board now!
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third_strike
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Congratulations to adversity1 and back!
Keep on!
Keep on!
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
third_strike (and erppo), I got some some questions on your progression "post-first-time-fullchained-loop1-yeah".
Well, my last run was : 5/17/66/155/338 // few billions.
I planned to work on something like 5/20/85/200/400 // some random shit
Do you think it's a good idea or should I train more on 2nd loop ?
What is for you the easiest way to improve my score by something like 50/100b ?
I started to try to milk boss 3, that's hard but definitely look possible.
Thanks
(btw, I saw you deleted your omote videos from youtube, are they somewhere else ?)
Well, my last run was : 5/17/66/155/338 // few billions.
I planned to work on something like 5/20/85/200/400 // some random shit
Do you think it's a good idea or should I train more on 2nd loop ?
What is for you the easiest way to improve my score by something like 50/100b ?
I started to try to milk boss 3, that's hard but definitely look possible.
Thanks
(btw, I saw you deleted your omote videos from youtube, are they somewhere else ?)
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
I recommend against milking the bosses if you value your sanity. At least I'd wait until I'm really consistent with the whole first loop before going for that. It's not that big score increase and the effort would be much better spent optimizing your regular chains.
For the second loop, 2-3 and 2-4 are not that hard and are worth quite a bit, especially the Ura loop versions which you should be aiming for. 2-1 Ura can also be worth over 10 billion but I'm not bothering with 2-2 since it's really brutal and not even worth that much.
For comparison, my ideal first loop scores are roughly 5/20/80/190/390 with optimal chains and no boss milking.
For the second loop, 2-3 and 2-4 are not that hard and are worth quite a bit, especially the Ura loop versions which you should be aiming for. 2-1 Ura can also be worth over 10 billion but I'm not bothering with 2-2 since it's really brutal and not even worth that much.
For comparison, my ideal first loop scores are roughly 5/20/80/190/390 with optimal chains and no boss milking.
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third_strike
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
All my progress is in this topic. My best try in 1st and 2nd loop was posted here also.
You can get this points in 2-3 and 2-4 ura. 2-4 omete worth something.
usually I milk 1-4 and 1-5 bosses. But boss milk only worth if have an high accumulative counter. well, I don't restart runs.
If you want I can up the videos again.
And only for note I restarted play this game again in last week. Until now I played only 2-5 ura and could bring one chain to big cannon and get hit there (this is the hardest part in stage to me), that was 148 bill no hyper in circles of death (lots of luck, but...).
My best try ever in stages in real runs:
(1-1) 4,9
(1-2) 17
(1-3) 60
(1-4) 120
(1-5) 240
(2-1) 10
(2-2) 10
(2-3) 70
(2-4) 100
(2-5) 10
You can get this points in 2-3 and 2-4 ura. 2-4 omete worth something.
usually I milk 1-4 and 1-5 bosses. But boss milk only worth if have an high accumulative counter. well, I don't restart runs.
If you want I can up the videos again.
And only for note I restarted play this game again in last week. Until now I played only 2-5 ura and could bring one chain to big cannon and get hit there (this is the hardest part in stage to me), that was 148 bill no hyper in circles of death (lots of luck, but...).
My best try ever in stages in real runs:
(1-1) 4,9
(1-2) 17
(1-3) 60
(1-4) 120
(1-5) 240
(2-1) 10
(2-2) 10
(2-3) 70
(2-4) 100
(2-5) 10
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Welcome to the forums, you've come a long way since 6 months ago. Read my name backwards, you must.back wrote:Finally get this damn full chain on 1st loop.
1.5
øS.back - 344.031.700.810 - Boss 2-3 (omote) - B/Power
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Héhé, I get it for a long time.ResumeDPosition wrote:Read my name backwards, you must.
@third_strike : Thanks a lot. Yesterday, I tried to train a bit on ura stages, and finally, that didn't look -much- harder than omote...
I'm now motivated to catch the last bees.
Also, what about boss 3 milking ? Is it related to the 2 bombs conditions ?
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third_strike
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Indeed I find 2-3 and 2-5 midboses harder in omote.
I know nothing about boss 3 milking. This is the most annoying cry loli ever and I prefer milking based in bullet cancel.
How can you play this game without pick all bees?
I know nothing about boss 3 milking. This is the most annoying cry loli ever and I prefer milking based in bullet cancel.
How can you play this game without pick all bees?
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the allett
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Black label -Bomb Type
THE ALLETT - 377,749,473,202 - ALL EX - Type C - OFF
THE ALLETT - 377,749,473,202 - ALL EX - Type C - OFF
In the words of an alcholic, have another drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
As far as I know, it is possible to milk to the 1st form with the TINY lifebar. If you tap the laser to begin with and wait for her "plates" to start shooting lasers in all 4 directions, you can use the weak laser to keep hits alive while sitting on the very left edge of the screen and slowly milk the points (RACKEM). This is difficult though since the bullets she shoots are a little random and milking it without hitting her forces you to make utterly crazy dodges between the near-walls she shoots. Not too easy with that twitchy movement :/back wrote:Also, what about boss 3 milking ? Is it related to the 2 bombs conditions ?
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Actually, there is 3 or 4 bees which I don't care. There are on stages 4 and 5, where my hyper is already full.third_strike wrote:How can you play this game without pick all bees?
Btw, I got a new toy to play DFK
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Mother of god...so jealous. Wish I had one of those in my house so I could play DFK and Futari on a cab setup "/
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Black Label Strong is so much fun! More people should try it out!
360 - Black Label
RBS - 85,979,087,004 - 4 Boss - B-Strong - Off
No miss to stage 3, really good survival play in stage 4, game over with 3 hypers in stock. >_<
360 - Black Label
RBS - 85,979,087,004 - 4 Boss - B-Strong - Off
No miss to stage 3, really good survival play in stage 4, game over with 3 hypers in stock. >_<
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Well, I was trying to unlock ura loop...
That was a good start, no miss / no bomb / 45 bees before boss 5 AAAAND I lost 4 lifes in this last battle. (Yes, that's possible.)
Nervemind, I upped a little my score :
1.5
øS.back - 350.149.499.780 - Boss 2-2 (omote) - B-P
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That was a good start, no miss / no bomb / 45 bees before boss 5 AAAAND I lost 4 lifes in this last battle. (Yes, that's possible.)
Nervemind, I upped a little my score :
1.5
øS.back - 350.149.499.780 - Boss 2-2 (omote) - B-P
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
1.5 (Xbox 360)
Nereid - 55,164,912,008 - Omote 2-5 - B-S
48.3B after 1-3. I haven't learned anything past 1-3 yet.
Oh look, #2 for B-S, and not by much. lol this game
Nereid - 55,164,912,008 - Omote 2-5 - B-S
48.3B after 1-3. I haven't learned anything past 1-3 yet.
Oh look, #2 for B-S, and not by much. lol this game
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adversity1
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
1.5
Power Style
HEX - 229,626,090,594 - Stage 2-2 BOSS Omote - A-Power
Dropped chain on second half of stage 3, full chained all other stages. Stage 5 had a couple unfortunate panic hypers including one at the big cannon at the end. It's interesting what happens here at a high hyper rank, normally I've either died or bombed by the time I get here so I never noticed, but the tanks act as a sort of protector of the cannon. So if you can't destroy it on your two cuts back and forth, it gets harder to destroy. Especially if you hyper, which I wound up having to do. Your hyper is so weak at this point that it can barely cancel all the bullets coming at you, and it's slow to destroy the tanks. Meaning that you're forced to endure up to 4 reps of the cannon if you screw up and hyper. Little things like these give insight into the truly evil genius of Ikeda's mind IMO.
Anyways, scrubbed out way too hard on the stage 5 boss which made for a lousy 2nd loop performance.
Today however I started putting into practice a new strategy I learned for the stage 5 2nd mid-boss which renders him basically harmless ;D. This should help stabilize things.
We are holding the secret power of shmups.
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
I think the whole DOJ cannon is like that. It's not that hard to do without hypering but it suddenly becomes a super scary obstacle if you have carried a full chain up to that point. In that case your point gain will also be so high that hypering there means missing out on a lot of score, but on the other hand you really don't want to miss the huge payoff from the popcorn rush in the very end.adversity1 wrote:Little things like these give insight into the truly evil genius of Ikeda's mind IMO.
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
That's exactly it.Erppo wrote:I think the whole DOJ cannon is like that. It's not that hard to do without hypering but it suddenly becomes a super scary obstacle if you have carried a full chain up to that point. In that case your point gain will also be so high that hypering there means missing out on a lot of score, but on the other hand you really don't want to miss the huge payoff from the popcorn rush in the very end.adversity1 wrote:Little things like these give insight into the truly evil genius of Ikeda's mind IMO.
Looking back on that hyper, I was cornered hard by some bullets so I know I had no choice but it sucked to lose probably about 40 to 50 bil there. I did get the whole popcorn rush at the end though.
We are holding the secret power of shmups.
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Black Label Strong Style
ADI - 789,389,454,343 - 5 - Type B - OFF
ADI - 789,389,454,343 - 5 - Type B - OFF
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third_strike
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Sad which I can't post a new score like you guys.
But here is a video with a stage 2-5 no miss, bombs or hyper abuses.
A lot of luck in there mainly in big cannon and 03:25 to 3
03:30 moment the hardest parts in stage.
I hope improve my strategies in this stage in next weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTZh3zfu ... e=youtu.be
But here is a video with a stage 2-5 no miss, bombs or hyper abuses.
A lot of luck in there mainly in big cannon and 03:25 to 3
03:30 moment the hardest parts in stage.
I hope improve my strategies in this stage in next weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTZh3zfu ... e=youtu.be
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adversity1
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Haha, looks great man. Beautiful moves around the first and third "bit" sections.
I also sympathize with that chain break, that whole big tank section looks like hell in Ura 2nd loop.
Type A is super fun but playing at arcades is getting expensive ; /.
I also sympathize with that chain break, that whole big tank section looks like hell in Ura 2nd loop.
Type A is super fun but playing at arcades is getting expensive ; /.
We are holding the secret power of shmups.
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
360 - Black Label
RBS - 121,614,282,164 - 4 Boss - B-Strong - Off
Three lives going into stage 4 boss and still didn't get to stage 5. I really need to use more hypers.
RBS - 121,614,282,164 - 4 Boss - B-Strong - Off
Three lives going into stage 4 boss and still didn't get to stage 5. I really need to use more hypers.
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
Do you think you'll be able to eventually get the Power style Ura 2-All. I just want to see who the first western player to pull that one off will be. It was already impressive when Erppo did the Omote loop.
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third_strike
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
I guess which I can't beat the last hibachi pattern even with 10 lives in stock!
I don't what do there.
I don't what do there.
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adversity1
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arrange++
1.5
Power Style
HEX - 231,514,576,175 - Stage 2-3 Ura - A-Power
Slightly higher score in the Ura loop. Super annoying chain break in 1-5.
We are holding the secret power of shmups.
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arran
1.5
Power Style
HEX - 278,357,124,873 - Stage 2-5 Omote - A-Power
NTSC-J witnessed this starting on stage 4. Very solid run for me.
We are holding the secret power of shmups.
Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arran
All updated. Great scores, everyone!
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Re: DoDonPachi DaiFukkatsu — 1.5, Black Label, Novice, Arran
360 - Black Label
RBS - 195,201,049,550 - 5 - B-Strong - Off
RBS - 195,201,049,550 - 5 - B-Strong - Off