World cup bid

[neorichieb1971]

Anyone else a little pissed off about yesterdays bid process?

I am reading all the news on sky sports 24 hours after the event and it seems people here still have sour tastes in their mouths. I don't think the vote counting process needs to be changed but I do think the criteria on which the votes are based on is very clear. If FIFA wanted countries that need the sport of Football to develop they should have only accepted bids from countries that meet that criteria.

I believe hardly any England fans will travel to Russia in 2018. Its cold and far away. If any of the matches are on in the mornings in Russia it will be in the middle of the night here (obviously that has to be someone since the sport is global). FIFA are now saying its the BBC Panorama show that caused the lack of votes. However if you read into it thats like saying "FIFA condone corruption".

Korea, USA and England were wasting their time yesterday.

[CIT]

I like that Qatar got it. I think its good to also give a global event like the WC to an Islamic country. Their concept to diassemble the stadiums and rebuild them in developing countries is pretty cool too.

If FIFA wanted countries that need the sport of Football to develop they should have only accepted bids from countries that meet that criteria.

Good point. They probably accepted bids from USA, England, Spain, etc as back-ups. Still seems unfair though to not communicate your goals for awarding the cup.

[1up]

I like that Qatar got it. I think its good to also give a global event like the WC to an Islamic country. Their concept to diassemble the stadiums and rebuild them in developing countries is pretty cool too.

that I didn't know. When I read it was going to be held in Al-Quedas back yard I thought to myself. Theyre going to build 10 stadiums in the middle of the desert. wtf, will they use them for afterwards?

but overall it seems a bit shady to me. Russia? Really makes no sense to me

[Zeron]

Football is pretty damn popular in Russia I don't see the problem.

[neorichieb1971]

Qatar said they will dismantle the stadiums and give them to 3rd world countries after the tournament.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

While it is a shame about us brits not getting it considering all the work our bid team put into it (becks, prince william and the prime minister). I knew we wouldnt get it after it was the BBC who uncovered all the bribery and croruption into the bidding process. Also i believe those 2 who were sacked were odds on to vote for the uk aswell.

Still if Qatar can host the event in total safty, brining world sport to the muslim world is a great thing as world sport can make a good replacement for war. Still we have no idea what the situation with the war on terror is going to be like when the event is ran in 2018 is it??

[brentsg]

Plus.. isn't going to be like 120 degrees F when the games are going on there?

[E. Randy Dupre]

I'm really fucking glad that it didn't end up here, tbh. We're already going to be saddled with more than enough of a financial loss due to the Olympics, it's not like we need another such event clogging up resources just a few years later.

Not to mention the way that we'd apparently have to exempt FIFA and other associated organisations from certain of this country's laws - tax-related, employment-related, etc - in order for them to agree to stage the World Cup here in the first place. Fuck that shit.

[neorichieb1971]

Plus.. isn't going to be like 120 degrees F when the games are going on there?

All the stadiums are going to be indoor stadiums in kit form. Once the stadiums are finished with at the tournament the kits will be dismantled and rebuilt in 3rd world countries. This was one of their promises in the Qatar presentation.

The biggest upset for the England bid is that it wasn't even considered. England got 2 votes and were eliminated immediately. I believe Australia and USA got 1 bid and 3 bids. These were the 3 biggest bids and all flat out failed. 6 votes from 44 is piss poor by anyones standards.

[Skykid]

Hrm, tbh I don't think USA should have been in with a shout anyway, it isn't that long since it was in Atlanta (in comparative terms). Even though England is a total shit hole and full of tossers, the fact that it's the home of football, plays more football than any other country, has one of the most internationally celebrated leagues in the world and hasn't had the World Cup for 44 years would at least make up for some of the shortcomings.

That said, I don't have anything against Russia getting it - they've never hosted before and I dislike the fact they always get a bad rap (I've killed countless Russians in videogames, it's ridiculous). The government might be full of shit, but the people haven't done anything wrong.
I don't like the idea of watching games in the middle of the night, but hopefully I'll be in a different time zone by 2018 anyway (better be!)

[gct]

(I've killed countless Russians in videogames, it's ridiculous).

Have you ever played a Russian-developed video game? I've always wondered how the storylines in those go.

[BulletMagnet]

Have you ever played a Russian-developed video game?

No. They play YOU.

[njiska]

I'm really fucking glad that it didn't end up here, tbh. We're already going to be saddled with more than enough of a financial loss due to the Olympics, it's not like we need another such event clogging up resources just a few years later

I have to agree with this. Given the current financial state of the UK it would be a bit fool hardy to saddle the country with yet more debt so closely after hosting the Olympics.

Hrm, tbh I don't think USA should have been in with a shout anyway, it isn't that long since it was in Atlanta (in comparative terms). Even though England is a total shit hole and full of tossers, the fact that it's the home of football, plays more football than any other country, has one of the most internationally celebrated leagues in the world and hasn't had the World Cup for 44 years would at least make up for some of the shortcomings.

That said, I don't have anything against Russia getting it - they've never hosted before and I dislike the fact they always get a bad rap (I've killed countless Russians in videogames, it's ridiculous). The government might be full of shit, but the people haven't done anything wrong.
I don't like the idea of watching games in the middle of the night, but hopefully I'll be in a different time zone by 2018 anyway (better be!)

I'd think you Brit's would love more Russian involvement. It's worked out well for you in the past. </subtle dig>

In all seriousness though I find Russia to be a bit of an odd choice. Not because of the people or the climate or anything, but because of the massive amount of corruption that exists with in their society. I'd be concerned about the quality of build contracts and arrangements. Not the the level of the Commonwealth Games, but still, i'm hesitant.

As for the midnight games, how do you think I felt with this world cup? I had to watch the matches at 9 in the morning while in the office pretending to do work. Granted I had an incredibly slow month of work, but still.

[Skykid]

(I've killed countless Russians in videogames, it's ridiculous).

Have you ever played a Russian-developed video game? I've always wondered how the storylines in those go.

They're usually weird tales of oddly shaped blocks falling from the sky.

As for the midnight games, how do you think I felt with this world cup? I had to watch the matches at 9 in the morning while in the office pretending to do work. Granted I had an incredibly slow month of work, but still.

That would be cool for me, I was fine getting up at 6:30am for the Japan WC games. If it's proper sleeping hours (like 3-4am) that would be harsh.

[njiska]

That would be cool for me, I was fine getting up at 6:30am for the Japan WC games. If it's proper sleeping hours (like 3-4am) that would be harsh.

My point was just that it's a bit awkward either way. Getting up early, skipping off work. It's all extra crap we have to go through to watch the matches, but that's how it is for most of the world.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Not because of the people or the climate or anything, but because of the massive amount of corruption that exists with in their society. I'd be concerned about the quality of build contracts and arrangements. Not the the level of the Commonwealth Games, but still, i'm hesitant.

Imo the UK system isnt as free from corruption as most would like to think. This countries full of ppl in power lining their own pockets in some way or another. Its just that everybody here usually just turns a blind eye to it or just puts its down as just another thing why this country is so fucked up because itll never get sorted out.

[Skykid]

Not because of the people or the climate or anything, but because of the massive amount of corruption that exists with in their society. I'd be concerned about the quality of build contracts and arrangements. Not the the level of the Commonwealth Games, but still, i'm hesitant.

Imo the UK system isnt as free from corruption as most would like to think. This countries full of ppl in power lining their own pockets in some way or another. Its just that everybody here usually just turns a blind eye to it or just puts its down as just another thing why this country is so fucked up because itll never get sorted out.

Well it's owned by banks, same as the rest of the capitalist world. Banks are worse than gangsters.

That would be cool for me, I was fine getting up at 6:30am for the Japan WC games. If it's proper sleeping hours (like 3-4am) that would be harsh.

My point was just that it's a bit awkward either way. Getting up early, skipping off work. It's all extra crap we have to go through to watch the matches, but that's how it is for most of the world.

I book holiday when the WC is on. It's once every four years, I can't stand missing any of it.

[spl]

Once again, Qatar proves money makes the world go around.

Very annoyed Australia didn't end up getting it. We did such a good job with the Olympics back in 2000.

[dcharlie]

how the feck did the dutch bid go from 4 to 1 vote in the second round? lol.

[evil_ash_xero]

Oh boy....

[Mero]

I'm really fucking glad that it didn't end up here, tbh. We're already going to be saddled with more than enough of a financial loss due to the Olympics, it's not like we need another such event clogging up resources just a few years later.
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Yes, though I'd have preferred us to have got the World Cup and not got the Olympics. Oh well.

In all seriousness though I find Russia to be a bit of an odd choice. Not because of the people or the climate or anything, but because of the massive amount of corruption that exists with in their society.
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FIFA and the Russian authorities are kindred spirits.