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Jeneki wrote:http://www.gaming-age.com/2012/06/sine- ... vita-soon/
Exclusive to this new version is a guest character from Japanese cult studio G.rev, responsible for many shoot'em up classics like Border Down, Strania or Under Defeat. Vita owners will be able to select a new hero, Wilhelmine Muller, coming directly from the fantastic world of Under Defeat. Of course, the presence of Wilhelmine also means a brand new special weapon and new chronomes, available only on Vita!
Just a guest character, doesn't look like anything development related.
So they're just going to throw a German-speaking human into a game filled with anthropomorphic animals speaking Hungarian...
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Kiken wrote:
Jeneki wrote:http://www.gaming-age.com/2012/06/sine- ... vita-soon/
Exclusive to this new version is a guest character from Japanese cult studio G.rev, responsible for many shoot'em up classics like Border Down, Strania or Under Defeat. Vita owners will be able to select a new hero, Wilhelmine Muller, coming directly from the fantastic world of Under Defeat. Of course, the presence of Wilhelmine also means a brand new special weapon and new chronomes, available only on Vita!
Just a guest character, doesn't look like anything development related.
So they're just going to throw a German-speaking human into a game filled with anthropomorphic animals speaking Hungarian...
Itz got teh bulletz and da fancee graffex so is fun!
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Jeneki wrote:http://www.gaming-age.com/2012/06/sine- ... vita-soon/
Exclusive to this new version is a guest character from Japanese cult studio G.rev, responsible for many shoot'em up classics like Border Down, Strania or Under Defeat. Vita owners will be able to select a new hero, Wilhelmine Muller, coming directly from the fantastic world of Under Defeat. Of course, the presence of Wilhelmine also means a brand new special weapon and new chronomes, available only on Vita!
Just a guest character, doesn't look like anything development related.
According to GameFaqs http://www.gamefaqs.com/vita/672895-sine-mora/data the Vita release is "primarily" targeted toward the US market. However the exclusive content - Wilhelmine Muller from Under Defeat - originates from a game that is "mostly" locked to the Japanese region. The exclusive content makes more sense for a Japanese release as that audience should be more familiar with it. Unless G.Rev is hinting at some development regarding Under Defeat HD in the PlayStation Universe beyond Japan's own region ... though that is most likely wishful thinking.
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ciox wrote:
Jeneki wrote:http://www.gaming-age.com/2012/06/sine- ... vita-soon/
Exclusive to this new version is a guest character from Japanese cult studio G.rev, responsible for many shoot'em up classics like Border Down, Strania or Under Defeat. Vita owners will be able to select a new hero, Wilhelmine Muller, coming directly from the fantastic world of Under Defeat. Of course, the presence of Wilhelmine also means a brand new special weapon and new chronomes, available only on Vita!
Just a guest character, doesn't look like anything development related.
Platform-exclusive ships, sounds like redefining the genre alright.
Wow I'm glad i dodged this bullet *ba dum shhhh*
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PSN version due out in the near future.

Sine Mora, the Highly-Lauded Shmup from Digital Reality and Grasshoper Manufacture is Coming to PlayStation®Network!

Budapest, Hungary – June, 21 –Arguably one of the greatest shmups to come to this console generation, Sine Mora is looking to steal hearts again on PlayStation®Network. Sine Mora is the genre-defining creation of Digital Reality and Grasshopper Manufacture, and it's rife with laser spray, bullet-time madness, insane power-ups and epic boss battles. PSN junkies will soon be dodging and destroying in one of this year's greatest reviewed games.
"After having an extremely successful launch on Xbox LIVE Arcade and revealing the Vita version at E3 to much appraise, we're as excited as ever to bring the experience to yet another platform," said Balázs Horváth, director of publishing at Digital Reality. "More important than anything, we created something we love, and we know Sine Mora be loved yet again on PlayStation 3."



Co-developed by Grasshopper Manufacture and Digital Reality, Sine Mora is a dieselpunk shoot 'em up that provides a unique take on the genre, where time is the ultimate factor. Mixing classic shooter sensibilities with next-gen presentation, Sine Mora defines itself as a gorgeous shmup that appeals to both hardcore and casual gamers alike. Found on Xbox Live Arcade and coming soon to PlayStation®Vita, Sine Mora features over 60 combinations of planes, characters and time manipulation devices to complete every beautifully-crafted stage with scaling difficulty. All of this is set to an epic score of soaring heights composed by Akira Yamaoka (acclaimed for his works on Shadows of the Damned and the Silent Hill series) and with set pieces from boss battles designed by the legendary anime director Mahiro Maeda (Final Fantasy: Unlimited, The Animatrix segment "The Second Renaissance Parts I and II", and the animation sequence in Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill Vol. 1).
For more information about Sine Mora, please visit the official website: http://sinemoragame.com, the Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/sinemoragame or follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SINE_MORA.
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Highly lauded - by who ?
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Enemy wrote:Highly lauded - by who ?
Primarily reviewers of mass market games.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360 ... ic-reviews
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Enemy wrote:Highly lauded - by who ?
The critics have spoken: Digital Reality is the best schump developer since Treasure.

I, for one, welcome our new Hungarian overlords.
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Also Fallout 3 is the highest-rated game in the entire Fallout series.
Let that one sink in too.

All the same this is still a game I want to play and see what it's like for myself (though I'd rather have Strania, but my older bro has the 360 and it's kind of counter-productive buying games on a system I rarely get to use).
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Triggerheart should prolly be on there http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360 ... rt-exelica
Otomedius was at least scored correctly http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360 ... -excellent
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EmperorIng wrote:Also Fallout 3 is the highest-rated game in the entire Fallout series.
Let that one sink in too.

All the same this is still a game I want to play and see what it's like for myself (though I'd rather have Strania, but my older bro has the 360 and it's kind of counter-productive buying games on a system I rarely get to use).
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Sine Mora is a stinker of a shmup. Just not fun. Does not flow at all. I think the reviewers are only making a big deal about the graphics which are not good IMO.
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I'll be sure to see for myself. Glad PS3 still has a chance at some shmup love.
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I'll buy it if they fix the nasty / floaty control issues.
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i don't understand all the hate towards this game. if it would have came out 15 years ago in actual arcades it would be a classic by now
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nash87 wrote:i don't understand all the hate towards this game. if it would have came out 15 years ago in actual arcades it would be a classic by now
Because it is not fun. Galaga 88 is fun and that came out in 88.
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nash87 wrote:i don't understand all the hate towards this game. if it would have came out 15 years ago in actual arcades it would be a classic by now
15 years ago they wouldn't have been able to make impressive enough graphics to hide the glaring design issues.
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StarCreator wrote:
nash87 wrote:i don't understand all the hate towards this game. if it would have came out 15 years ago in actual arcades it would be a classic by now
15 years ago they wouldn't have been able to make impressive enough graphics to hide the glaring design issues.
only design issue i have a quarrel with is the no rate of fire cap. that's really only an issue of you're enough of a faggot to use a turbo button. and if that's the case then whatever makes you feel good. those of you don't like random drops can go back and play ikaruga with your eyes closed. everything else is clearly a personal problem...sort of like being banned from the Cave-Stg forums.

if you don't like the game get out of the thread and go complain about something somewhere else. i'm sure region lock whining is still popular here. isn't the next touhou region locked omg.

so what triggers the piano item drop? i was going through a run when i saw a pickup item i've never seen before. was a little hesitant at first, grabbed it, then died due to it dropping a piano on me. the size of that piano is beyond grand. 10x the size of your ship, wtf
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Sine Mora - The Shmup for those who dislike progress. R-Type Final with shit animals swearing.
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exquisite_torture wrote:Sine Mora - The Shmup for those who dislike progress. R-Type Final with shit animals swearing.
Just because it's progress doesn't mean we should turn back into apes. AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S PROGRESS we should not change the shmups back into space invaders, wait space invaders was way more fun than this shit.
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nash87 wrote:
StarCreator wrote:
nash87 wrote:i don't understand all the hate towards this game. if it would have came out 15 years ago in actual arcades it would be a classic by now
15 years ago they wouldn't have been able to make impressive enough graphics to hide the glaring design issues.
only design issue i have a quarrel with is the no rate of fire cap. that's really only an issue of you're enough of a faggot to use a turbo button. and if that's the case then whatever makes you feel good. those of you don't like random drops can go back and play ikaruga with your eyes closed. everything else is clearly a personal problem...sort of like being banned from the Cave-Stg forums.

if you don't like the game get out of the thread and go complain about something somewhere else. i'm sure region lock whining is still popular here. isn't the next touhou region locked omg.

so what triggers the piano item drop? i was going through a run when i saw a pickup item i've never seen before. was a little hesitant at first, grabbed it, then died due to it dropping a piano on me. the size of that piano is beyond grand. 10x the size of your ship, wtf

If you like this game you should reconsider your right to live. I am not bashing it to be cool. I am bashing it because it sucks. I could care less about region locking as I have Japanese / USA consoles.

Only design issue I have is it is Sodner X 3 : The Search for Dr. Moreau!
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Tokyo-J wrote:Only design issue I have is it is Sodner X 3 : The Search for Dr. Moreau!
No it's not, if you say it's as bad as first Soldner-X then yes I may agree. But the second one? Dude that one was decent and didn't have as much issues as Sine Mora has. Plus Soldner-X2 HAS a better soundtrack by a long mile.
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Kaiser wrote:
exquisite_torture wrote:Sine Mora - The Shmup for those who dislike progress. R-Type Final with shit animals swearing.
Just because it's progress doesn't mean we should turn back into apes. AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S PROGRESS we should not change the shmups back into space invaders, wait space invaders was way more fun than this shit.
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Bought this today. Despite its many flaws I'm enjoying story mode so far, arcade mode seems quite unforgiving though. It'll be a shame if this never gets patched, since just a few small changes could make a big improvement. I'd be fine with keeping random item drops in story mode, but I think it's unquestionably a bad idea in arcade/score attack. In a game in which survival depends so heavily on being powered up enough to destroy bosses in time, being underpowered through sheer bad luck or losing all of your weapons because you got hit at the edge of the screen seem like such basic design oversights, it's both surprising and disappointing to read that Reiker has no intention of changing things.
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Tokyo-J wrote: If you like this game you should reconsider your right to live. I am not bashing it to be cool.
Actually, seeing as how you're incapable of shutting the fuck up about how much you hate it - which, y'know, we got first time around - I think it's a pretty safe presumption to make that that's exactly what you *are* doing.

It feels like half your posts on this board in this thread. Same applies to an awful lot of people in the latter half of the thread. Give it a rest.
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E. Randy Dupre wrote:
Tokyo-J wrote: If you like this game you should reconsider your right to live. I am not bashing it to be cool.
Actually, seeing as how you're incapable of shutting the fuck up about how much you hate it - which, y'know, we got first time around - I think it's a pretty safe presumption to make that that's exactly what you *are* doing.

It feels like half your posts on this board in this thread. Same applies to an awful lot of people in the latter half of the thread. Give it a rest.
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I read the GamesTM review of this the other day, it was a pretty painful read but the funniest part was where they compare the game in question to other games of the same genre and put "Better than", "Worse than" or "As good as". For Sine Mora, they put "Better than Gradius V" and "As good as R-Type Final" haha.
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dannnnn wrote:I read the GamesTM review of this the other day, it was a pretty painful read but the funniest part was where they compare the game in question to other games of the same genre and put "Better than", "Worse than" or "As good as". For Sine Mora, they put "Better than Gradius V" and "As good as R-Type Final" haha.
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dannnnn wrote:I read the GamesTM review of this the other day, it was a pretty painful read but the funniest part was where they compare the game in question to other games of the same genre and put "Better than", "Worse than" or "As good as". For Sine Mora, they put "Better than Gradius V" and "As good as R-Type Final" haha.
Ha ha, insinuating that R-Type Final is better than Gradius V :D

I think they should have their offices burned to the ground for suggesting Sine Mora is better than GV though, that's videogame blasphemy.

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I guess this is the worst case of a shmup being revered by the mainstream but completely destroyed by the most dedicated slice of the target audience.

I just goes to show how desynchronized we are from what is considered "game value" these days.
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