Nice tip for PS3 owners who want 1080p content for free

[neorichieb1971]

Nice thing I found out about Quicktime movies and getting them to work on the PS3.

Go to any page link on quicktime.com where the icons for 480p,720p and 1080p are resident.

Using your browser (I use firefox) go to "edit" "page source". You will see the links.

Copy and paste any link with .mov on the end into the URL of your browser (CTRL F to search quickly for 1080p etc)

Before hitting enter, put a h in the link right before the resolution number.

So

http://movies.apple.com/movies/independ ... r_720p.mov

Becomes

http://movies.apple.com/movies/independ ... _h720p.mov (notice the h)

Hit enter, you will be prompted to SAVE A$

Put into a program called PS3 video 9 (video conversion software that needs to be downloaded).. copy to PS3.


This bypasses the need for any QT software. I've been doing this quite a while when I've been bored. It allows you to see things in 1080p for free, even if its just a trailer.

Recently done 2012, Alice in wonderland.. People come round and get really excited. Quicktime usually has more content than any other website. so its all you need.

[jonny5]

the only thing i use my PS3 for really is watching movies.....

[neorichieb1971]

360 lover huh! Although i can see the 360 has a slightly higher profile among gamers, I really don't see what the big fuss is about. I have 7 or 8 games, they play just as I would expect, online is free and apart from having a wired mic piece and online service that allows community get togethers thats it.

Besides apart from FPS and Gears what is there on 360? At least Sony devs can program games that are not 3D shooting games and STILL call them AAA games. Any how, Its not the point of my post.


Another great PS3 tip.

Go to browser, put www.youtube.com/tv in the URL.. Now you have a full screen windows interface for youtube on your PS3. Nice one laddy. Could be nice to watch youtubes especially for music since everything you want is on there.

[Specineff]

Go to browser, put http://www.youtube.com/tv in the URL.. Now you have a full screen windows interface for youtube on your PS3. Nice one laddy. Could be nice to watch youtubes especially for music since everything you want is on there.

F-ing metal, man. Thanks a lot.

[D]

Go to browser, put http://www.youtube.com/tv in the URL.. Now you have a full screen windows interface for youtube on your PS3. Nice one laddy. Could be nice to watch youtubes especially for music since everything you want is on there.

F-ing metal, man. Thanks a lot.

Cool, awesome thread.
I also used ps3video converter to convert many videos for play.
thanks for the youtube link

[neorichieb1971]

I'm sure you all know PMS (playstation media server) is the best media server out there.

http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/downloads/list


Specifically written for the PS3. There isn't any better. Does on the fly transcoding (viewing or copying) of anything.

The only program you need.

[Elixir]

the only thing i use my PS3 for really is watching movies.....

360 lover huh!

You automatically assume someone loves the opposing console despite owning the supporting console merely because they don't use it much?

[neorichieb1971]

the only thing i use my PS3 for really is watching movies.....

360 lover huh!

You automatically assume someone loves the opposing console despite owning the supporting console merely because they don't use it much?

Although the PS3 is lagging behind in certain areas, it still is a behemoth of a multi media machine. For gaming it has exclusives well worth playing, with more to come. For someone to say they use it just for movies proves they get their gaming fix somewhere else. It also means they are ignoring all the games on the PS3 which are either exclusive to the system or those that are available on both or all systems. Its not hard to spot someone who prefers the 360. I have many friends who own both consoles and they too only play movies on the PS3. They also own 25-30 360 games which they hardly play. They stop playing when Mr or Mrs X stops playing, why?

For me personally, I have suffered owning a PS3. I don't like owning the less favourable console at all. I believed in the vision that blu ray was the future. But Microsoft had other ideas making the online community feel of a game the future, something which I have never been a fan of. I didn't care for trophies or achievements, or trying to beat someones score on a game that plays it 24 hours a day to stay on top. For me its personal achievement that counts. I don't look at the top score charts on this forum either, its just obsessiveness to be a world leader at a game. I don't think that type of game should be made or people encouraged to play it like its an obsession.

Of course I can mingle and get out of gaming what I want and leave the rest for everyone else. However, the types of games that I like have an end. Games such as God of War, Ico, Shadows of the collossus. I find these games charming, enlightening and fascinating. If only someone besides Sony could muster up an art piece where you can take your time without hoards of online interveners ruining what is otherwise (or could be) a beautiful game.

The internet itself is something of a rebellion against the games I like, with cheat books, online forums always having the answer. When was the last time you played a game to an end and asked your mate if he's got past a certain bit yet? Maybe i'm just old school. The future of gaming isn't running around with a gun shooting anything that moves. America has swallowed up the Japanese niche market of games completely. A game designer couldn't fathom what made Bubble bobble a great game in the 80's and couldn't muster up anything like that kind of gameplay in todays arena. Simply because, it "has to be online", "people have to get killed and be shot" or it has to have some kind of "immoral super hero design" like GTA.

Its not that I don't like the 360. Its that it doesn't want to deliver a gaming experience I would personally enjoy. Specifications aside, the gaming developers that support 360 are only interested in recycling the same game engine with a slightly different (and usually void) storyline.

Maybe the poster above fits into this conglomeration of online networking games, which just like Face book and myspace of online community feel and presence is more important than the content itself. I don't get into 360 because its the pinnacle of everything I can't stand. Its the "message" of the console that disappoints me and the unrelenting sales of those types of games which further disappoints me.

Maybe I'm just getting old. It saddens me to see someone write the words "I only use my PS3 for playing movies". Because its Sony that might be trying to break the mould. Bringing it back to the way I saw gaming back in the day, just with a HD tagline and storyline blended in. It is Sony's vision of a game that I appreciate the most. I find the gaming arena empty of heart these days. Its like giving kids cap guns and watching them shout "bang bang bang".

If the art world consisted almost completely of paintings of apples, eventually people would all have a painting of an apple. If the movie industry was only successful if Brad Pitt was in it, then eventually all anyone would want is Brad Pitt. Of course those scenarios would never play out, because the diversity of the market would guarantee there is something for everyone. So why is it, that in gaming, we have to follow this trend of genre domination of online/shooting/realistic regurgitation.

Sorry I wrote so much and went a bit off topic, but sometimes you have to say your piece.

Thanks for reading.

[dcharlie]

Its not that I don't like the 360. Its that it doesn't want to deliver a gaming experience I would personally enjoy. Specifications aside, the gaming developers that support 360 are only interested in recycling the same game engine with a slightly different (and usually void) storyline.

the PS3 and X360 have nigh on the exact same set of games, so i'm not sure how the X360 wouldn't deliver the gaming experience that at least comes very close to what you are getting with the PS3.

As for the engine comment - come on, really?

Because its Sony that might be trying to break the mould

huh? the ps3 japanese line up has been an attempt to copy the Xbox line up from last gen which has been a right kick in the teeth for us stuck here who were happy getting awesome japanese games on the PS2 and using the Xbox for imports. Sony have gone big on FPS and western styled games where as eastern leaning games have been shockingly slow in coming (what the HELL is keeping GT5?! we're going to have had TWO Forza games at this rate before GT5)

I don't know - where exactly have Sony broke the mould with the PS3?

Cell backfired to some extent, BR for gaming isn't ideal, game installs (shudder), weaker online,
BUT i still agree games wise theres a lot to like on the PS3.

it STILL has Wipeout HD / Fury , MLB , etc etc. no matter what and although i love it's BR ability i'm playing games more than watchin movies on the thing.

[neorichieb1971]

I did comment above that its sad that the generation has gone all western crazy. Of course Sony will adhere to whatever gives them the most dividends.

The mould breaking aspect is more related to AAA games that do not necessarily have a huge online component thrown in. If you look at Last Guardian, GOW3, Infamous and Uncharted, they are games that have the 1p experience as the main core. The storyline and presentation is old school with nextgen graphics and animations. The games might not sell as much as 360 games, but the fact remains thats because people "WANT" the online factor. Everyone has become a facebook/myspace/twitter/Xbox live fanboy.

During the PS1 era, we had the arcades to look up to still. Going WOW this and WOW that, "can't wait to get that in the home" etc etc. Without that template to look up to, the industry has found a dead end with a gold fish bowl at the end of it, swimming round and round in circles.

since that is what everyone wants, since the devcos are initially suited to deliver a better 360 experience of course thats the way it goes. PS3 was designed up to 8 years ago and all stakes were put on blu ray/cell and free online. Although we sit here today wondering what went wrong with gaming, the very same people are those buying up 360 games that have that EA regurgitation syndrome at its core. At least Sony from time to time is able to develop games that can get the industry to take notice and deliver something radically different from the norm. I praise that notion and will support it. I am also for the re-introduction of Japanese big headed characters running smashing things with hammers and platforming. Where did it all go? Where will it come from again? Can gaming survive with realism as its main selling point? That is what worries me. I find myself with 7 or 8 PS3 games that equal the diversity of the 200 Ps3 games available. I do not see anything on the 360 that offers above and beyond, I just see more social networking with the gaming content delivering exactly what went before it. That is not exciting to me anymore. Maybe in the DC era, but not now. Give me some mind boggling action adventure.

Its also (like you said) a shame that both PS3 and 360 are having code tweaked to make them look relatively the same. When afterall, what I'm looking for is something different.

[dcharlie]

The mould breaking aspect is more related to AAA games that do not necessarily have a huge online component thrown in. If you look at Last Guardian, GOW3, Infamous and Uncharted, they are games that have the 1p experience as the main core. The storyline and presentation is old school with nextgen graphics and animations. The games might not sell as much as 360 games, but the fact remains thats because people "WANT" the online factor. Everyone has become a facebook/myspace/twitter/Xbox live fanboy.

I disagree - the online factor is another selling point and extends the life of the game and i still think most core gamers buy games for the core game itself , online just extends the life of the game,
I don't know how Sony are breaking hte mould with having 1p experience as the main core - certainly not between ps2 and ps3.

Also - Uncharted 2 has a additional online segment - and the beta is INCREDIBLY good.

During the PS1 era, we had the arcades to look up to still. Going WOW this and WOW that, "can't wait to get that in the home" etc etc. Without that template to look up to, the industry has found a dead end with a gold fish bowl at the end of it, swimming round and round in circles.

erm - what? come on now. "Here's another fighter, racer or sports game - please make the home port" was some sort of golden template? we all saw where that model got Sega and the Dreamcast after all.

Although we sit here today wondering what went wrong with gaming, the very same people are those buying up 360 games that have that EA regurgitation syndrome at its core.

this is getting silly, you're making massive generalisations here against one system whilst championing the PS3 which is no better!
What ARE these regurgitated games or games that use the same engine so are therefore defunct?
They are definitely out there - in the FPS for sure - but i don't think any leaps suggesting that anything using a standard engine in an first person view is automatically some regurgitation. FPS games , as an example, are not created equal - even when using the same engine.

slight OT but : Bear in mind this is EA who this past year or so have EASILY taken the title of best soccer game from Konami, released Mirrors Edge (something different :O) and Dead Space (something different certainly for them, and an astonishingly good game). EA's turn around in the last year or so has been incredible.

At least Sony from time to time is able to develop games that can get the industry to take notice and deliver something radically different from the norm.

To date, they've done that ONCE - with Little Big Planet - everything else has been pretty by the numbers racing/fps/etc. I'm sorry - i just can't see how you can talk down the X360 and big up the PS3 when there's very little difference between them. I need to know what the games are you are seeing as this shining beacon of "radically different"

I praise that notion and will support it. I am also for the re-introduction of Japanese big headed characters running smashing things with hammers and platforming. Where did it all go?

to the wii and ds?

Where will it come from again? Can gaming survive with realism as its main selling point? That is what worries me. I find myself with 7 or 8 PS3 games that equal the diversity of the 200 Ps3 games available. I do not see anything on the 360 that offers above and beyond, I just see more social networking with the gaming content delivering exactly what went before it. That is not exciting to me anymore. Maybe in the DC era, but not now. Give me some mind boggling action adventure.

AS loathed as i am for list wars, you are going to have to list those games. Again, LBP is the BIGGEST and most diverse game that Sony have put out and SOCIAL NETWORKING AND ONLINE ARE ITS CORE!!!!
So i need to know what these other games are - if you are going to list Last Guy and other , frankly, turgid efforts then i'm going to be disappointed! Looking down my shelf at the PS3 games, and online - i just don't see where the diversity is that's apparently lacking in the X360. For the time being i'm not looking at market place stuff, if we include that, then the X360 definitely has a diversity edge.

Its also (like you said) a shame that both PS3 and 360 are having code tweaked to make them look relatively the same. When afterall, what I'm looking for is something different.

basically, because the X360 got in first and has the better 3rd party versions, the PS3 is an exclusives machine for me - i have no problems with that. I've managed to find around 30 games i'm completely happy with, but again - i can look along them and say very few of them are offering what you seem to think they offer over the X360 library. For online, there's a ton of games where it's not competitive, where there is fun to be had. Chromehounds and Left 4 Dead both leap to mind - with the later being the most fun i've had with games in years and the former still my favourite game of this generation.

I hit a similar rut where i "fell out" with gaming for about 6 months near the back end of the Xbox/PS2 - and of course the start of each new gen is always a bind, but i personally have found a ton of stuff this gen very entertaining. I think there are things wrong with gaming, but i'm more irked by things like having to pay for content that is on a disk where companies are selling you unlock keys - that's taking the water quite a bit.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

I prefer that devs focus on one thing with their games. When they spread their resources out in all directions, one aspect or another suffers or everything is mediocre. RE5 was one game that I really looked forward to that I think was ruined because of the online component. They severely dumbed down the single player experience to tack on the online multiplayer, and in the end, the game was very good overall but wasn't particularly great in anything.

[neorichieb1971]

Dcharlie, I'm not championing the PS3 at all, well not the system specifically anyway. I don't give two hoots about the PS3 or any piece of hardware.

What I like about Sony in general is that "sometimes" they think up new ideas and bring something new to the table. LBP was one yes, Last Guardian will hopefully be another. There is one called Quantum rain coming out.

How can I put this? If its not on 360 people don't like it. Especially if they have both systems. If its a PS3 exclusive there seems to be a hesitation towards it. I just think people would prefer the PS3 went away right now, like brush it under the carpet or something like that.

The only problem I have with Microsoft is that they don't invest in diversity as much as they do FPS games or racing games. They have brought nothing new to the table at all. The 360 communities are happy to lap up yet another FPS game etc. Microsoft even roadblocked the shmup thing on live, forcing the devcos to fund their own retail version. Microsoft could buy the Tron Legacy rights from Disney and make a pucker game there, but its likely to get an Activision type jobby (shite basically). What about Road Rash? Thats overdue some kind of nextgen treatment and would work great online. I want nextgen to fit a little more into the fantasy realm that doesn't rely so heavily on guns, and if violence is necessary at least make some of it a little abstract.

I think your going to argue against my case whatever I say.

The last poster made a great example about RE5. It certainly was a step back from RE4. Even Gears is quite lame for its 1p campaign, I don't know anyone thats beat it yet.

[dcharlie]

Even Gears is quite lame for its 1p campaign, I don't know anyone thats beat it yet.

Gears 1 campaign SINGLE player is mostly average, in coop it's pretty good.
Gears 2 campaign is a massive improvement, but has some unnecessary fluff (level 3 in particular) but is excellent in coop - and introduces horde mode coop

You don't know ANYOnE that's beat it? :/

RE5 - it's a step back in many ways - but the things that were bad about it weren't entirely down to the online. For me , DEAD SPACE ruined RE5 as an experience because DS feels like a next gen game where as RE5 looks like one but is still mired in last gen in terms of control, the way the enemies move react etc. RE5 was a prime example of by the numbers next-gen'ing and given RE4 is on my top 3 list of last gen games, it was a massive disappointment. But yes, turgid boss battles was a major complaint for me and i don't see how that , the last gen animation system or any number of cack handed decissions can be written off as being the fault of the online component. I doubt the game would have been any different without the online piece - it'll have maybe lost the annoyance of a universally thick side kick and some sections would be the same but i wouldn't expect the game to be any stronger.

I think your going to argue against my case whatever I say.

not at all, i'm a big fan of both machines but i just don't buy the argument that the X360 and it's fans are everything that's wrong with this gen! case in point :

the table at all. The 360 communities are happy to lap up yet another FPS game etc. Microsoft even roadblocked the shmup thing on live, forcing the devcos to fund their own retail

and sony rejected them from online AND retail. So WHY are MS the big bad guys here again? Sony have been just as bad if not worse. Also - have a look what is actually on XBLA - there's a whole bunch of interesting and diverse titles. Braid springs to mind for one (maybe coming to PS3 next year apparently)

[neorichieb1971]

I guess my statement is that if Microsoft diversified with some of that cash they have, its competition might open up to ideas as well. Its pretty hard for Sony to take risks when they are being squeezed so hard by Microsoft. If Sony have to indulge the FPS arena to the levels that Microsoft have, that leaves little room for other genres that need rezzing up as well. I can't think of a single game thats coming out that really feels a bit different! No okami on the horizon this time around?

Last gen had some pretty good stuff by now. Monkey ball, Prince of persia, Rez, Ico, God of war, GTA, Halo, Okami just to name a few. But this gen has brought little to the table. The new franchises that were born such as motorstorm, Gears, uncharted just seem a little samey. E3 seemed a little too techie.. Don't get me wrong i'm a major geek and love all this talking to nerdy computer characters and waving my arms around like i'm in a swarm of bee's.

Dead Space, LBP feel quite fresh in comparison to the rest of it. But LBP didn't do much for me unfortunately, being creative is challenging, but not in the right way. I did enjoy infamous on the PS3, I felt that was an accomplished game.

I'd love to see a online diddy kong racing on the xbox? What is Rare doing these days?

There are successful games of the past that need just as much a face lift as halo for example. Its just that halo gets 3 sequels before others get a look in. That is the killer of diversity.

[dcharlie]

If Sony have to indulge the FPS arena to the levels that Microsoft have, that leaves little room for other genres that need rezzing up as well. I can't think of a single game thats coming out that really feels a bit different! No okami on the horizon this time around?

we do have Demon Souls and Vesperia flying the flag for the japanese PS3 which are both very good games. Folksoul is pretty decent too.
MLB 08 the show (and 09 of course) are the king of baseball games by light years - so far ahead it's not even funny.
Infamous is pretty good, but after playing Crackdown X years prior on the X360 (with online coop) made it stand out a little less - certainly a very good game so far though.

Last gen had some pretty good stuff by now. Monkey ball, Prince of persia, Rez, Ico, God of war, GTA, Halo, Okami just to name a few. But this gen has brought little to the table. The new franchises that were born such as motorstorm, Gears, uncharted just seem a little samey. E3 seemed a little too techie.. Don't get me wrong i'm a major geek and love all this talking to nerdy computer characters and waving my arms around like i'm in a swarm of bee's.

There's still a lot of good in there - Gears gets a hard time, but Gears 2 is a great package. Orange box at least brings Portal to the table (which is more than an equal to any of the last gen games you mention).

Dead Space, LBP feel quite fresh in comparison to the rest of it. But LBP didn't do much for me unfortunately, being creative is challenging, but not in the right way. I did enjoy infamous on the PS3, I felt that was an accomplished game.

I agree on LBP - it's a great idea, with great graphics and a cute factor off the scale , it's different and it has Stephen Fry - but ultimately the platforming is pretty awful which sort of kills things dead. I had started making Manic Miner levels but quickly discovered it to be too much of a pain - then you see the Gradius levels people make and it's a true WOW moment.

I'd love to see a online diddy kong racing on the xbox? What is Rare doing these days?

Bits and bobs, providing the engine for Forza 3 mainly, and rumoured to be revising some older franchises - unfortunately , that seems to be Killer Instinct (rumoured) which i've never understood the appeal of.

Sony DOES have some great things in the pipeline, but i feel we've been going on about the potential of the PS3 now year on year since 2006. GT5, Trico, etc - these all need to step up asap.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

RE5 - it's a step back in many ways - but the things that were bad about it weren't entirely down to the online. For me , DEAD SPACE ruined RE5 as an experience because DS feels like a next gen game where as RE5 looks like one but is still mired in last gen in terms of control, the way the enemies move react etc. RE5 was a prime example of by the numbers next-gen'ing and given RE4 is on my top 3 list of last gen games, it was a massive disappointment. But yes, turgid boss battles was a major complaint for me and i don't see how that , the last gen animation system or any number of cack handed decissions can be written off as being the fault of the online component. I doubt the game would have been any different without the online piece - it'll have maybe lost the annoyance of a universally thick side kick and some sections would be the same but i wouldn't expect the game to be any stronger.

Yes, RE5 would have been much better without multiplayer. Capcom has expressed numerous times that they added it very late in the development cycle and had to retrofit the game for it. I think many things broke in the process. The pacing of the game, for example, was made too fast to keep the players moving. In RE4 and pretty much every other RE, there are a lot of quiet moments that help set the mood of the game. You just wander around without any hurry looking at all the messed up stuff around you, reading articles that detail the story, or solving some puzzles. With multiplayer, they can't keep one player waiting while the other reads a journal, or figure out a puzzle, so all of that was cut off or severely dumbed down. That kind of stuff is, however, essential to the RE experience. Besides the pacing, though, having a second character help you reduces the tension in the game, and to be honest, it feels like she's babysitting you all the time. She heals you constantly and even revives you, so there's no fear of death.

So in a nutshell, the mystery, desolation, tension and horror are pretty much gone in RE5 and all that is left is another action title.

Also - have a look what is actually on XBLA - there's a whole bunch of interesting and diverse titles. Braid springs to mind for one (maybe coming to PS3 next year apparently)

There are lots of interesting titles for both services.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

The much awaited PS3 powered Gran Turismo 5 game from Polyphony Digital will be released in May of 2010...how do I know that? I placed a paid-up-front pre-order for a PS3 copy several weeks back. Of course, it could be delayed again at anytime. And GT for the PSP in both UMD and downloadable formats for the upcoming PSP Go portable will be out during the same month as well next year. All the unlocked player stats/content from GT-5 Prologue will be transferrable to the new GT-5 game as well. Yes, as usual, developer PD sure has a very slow and notrious track record for not releasing it's GT games when they say they are. ^_~

You might recall when PD released GT3 for the PS2 back in June of 2001...didn't they promise that GT-2000 would be ready in time for the Stateside debut of the PS2 console in October of 2000? I was fortunate enough to play an early beta demo of GT-3 at the 2000 San Francisco International Auto Show...it looked a bit different than the final release, of course. SCEA had several PS2 demo kiosks stocked with the beta GT-3 demos for all to try out. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[jonny5]

lolz....i dont even own a 360.....i just dont really play console games

too busy playing on the cabs

i just use the PS3 for blurays and some 1080p rips cuz im just using onboard 8200 on my PC and i sometimes get lag on 1080 stuff....

[ncp]

Not being able to play Gran Turismo 5 is my only regret in deciding not to buy a PS3. Damn I loved the first 4.

;_;

[neorichieb1971]

PSN and Live need to do something more on the scale of WipEout HD and Alien Breed. Those types of mini flash games do not belong in the world of consoles in any shape or form. I do not know of anyone who bought a 360 or Ps3 to play bejeweled.

As for the PS3 showcases. There just doesn't seem to be the talent floating about right now. Sony's biggest headache right now is getting Uncharted 2 performance from the likes of Activision and ID. It seems remarkable to me that some companies are making games that are not as accomplished as U2 and saying that PS3 can't handle it . ID have gone on record stating that "Rage" will benefit from a 1 disc game on PS3, but the framerate is 20fps as opposed to 60fps on the 360. I don't know of any game that runs at 20fps on the PS3. They need to work on their code. Maybe the developers worst nightmare will come true, the PS3 slim will sell in droves forcing an infrastructure change in the development community. Perhaps Sony's Polyphony and Naught Dog can supply middleware to get things rolling.

But ultimately, i'm excited about the Last guardian. Its definitely the direction of gaming I would like to see. FPS/racing/sports games can co-exist obviously, but they need'nt be a pro dominant breed of game. We need more games where artists, designers, sculturists, science fiction writers, historians, movie writers and programmers get together to make some truly fresh games.

[Specineff]

It's been clarified that the 20 FPS issue is happening *now*, but that they plan to make the PS3 version run up to par with the 360 when its done.

Nothing like nerd rage (no pun) to get a developer to talk.

On the other hand, I don't see Sony being as helpful and friendly as it was with developers in the days of the original Playstation. Where is the performance analyzer and developer standards guidebook, $ony?

[dcharlie]

It seems remarkable to me that some companies are making games that are not as accomplished as U2 and saying that PS3 can't handle it

well, U2 and KZ2 etc are all built specifically for the PS3 architecture where as most third parties are going to go multiplatform and, they are right, that the PS3 isn't particularly suited for fitting in with the symetrical core architecture of PC/X360 - the sPU set up is a little funkier. :/

I'm sure they could get the PS3 to handle things if they wrote everything from scratch for the PS3 - but as it's the last place machine, with the lowest games sales figures then that is going to dictate unfortunately.

I don't know of any game that runs at 20fps on the PS3.

Gundam line of sight jumps to mind, but i don't know if that actual hits 20 !

The article basically just points out that theres a lot of extra work needed to shine things up for cell.

[neorichieb1971]

The SPU setup is probably the biggest headache since it does not fit into standard programming ethics that have been going around for donkeys. It requires the code to be written, then realized that some of it can be done by the SPU's, then tinkered about with, then realize a bit more can be tinkered, then realize you still have a few SPU's left doing nothing.. wondering what to do with it!! So yeah, you definitely need the PS3 code to be built from the ground up. But this has little to do with creativity. Whether the 360 or the PS3 is the best or the most powerful from any perspective is not the point. The point is, that both consoles are powerful enough to exercise some diversity that is seriously lacking at the cutting edge level.

Apparently F/W 3.8 makes the OS smaller on the PS3. According to what i've read, the OS on the PS3 is currently 74mb, with the 360's version at 32mb. Apparently this is making the PS3 lag behind as it needs to milk that RAM bit by bit. I believe its stated that the OS will shrink by about 30mb on F/W3.80.. but don't quote me on that. All I know for sure is that Uncharted 2 requires 3.8 to run.

30MB saving is 6% gain right?

anyway, any chance of a faster BD-rom drive in the slim?

[antron]

mvrmnd

[dave4shmups]

Not being able to play Gran Turismo 5 is my only regret in deciding not to buy a PS3. Damn I loved the first 4.

;_;

I thought that 4 was great, except for no driving lines, which, IMO, make racing sims more accessible. The latest footage of 5 shows driving lines, though, and I think Prologue has them.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Not being able to play Gran Turismo 5 is my only regret in deciding not to buy a PS3. Damn I loved the first 4.

;_;

Plus the cool freebie d/l of Gran Turismo HD as well. Can't beat that cool offer and it ain't on the 360 either. ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[dave4shmups]

Ok, technical question since this thread mentions 1080p. Obviously not all PS3 or 360 games run in 1080p, but for those that do, wouldn't you be missing out on a lot of detail in the games without a 1080p HDTV? I mean, with a game like Uncharted 2, especially, I'd think that you would need 1080p HDTV to get the most out of it.

[brentsg]

OP you started a very handy thread and then quite quickly turned this into a PS3 vs. Xbox fest. Why?

[neorichieb1971]

Dave4shmups,

Uncharted 2 runs at 720p in the highest resolution. Therefore having a 1080p TV makes absolutely no difference at all. Uncharted 2 couldn't be done in 1080p, it would stutter and crawl and require some sort of major overhaul and much more powerful hardware using todays methods of programming the PS3.

The biggest game to utilize 1080p on the PS3 is probably going to be God of War 3.





Uncharted 2 looks good because of the textures, lighting and fragmentation amongst other features. An open world environment such as Uncharted 2 would struggle in 1080p.

God of War games cheat a bit in that they only show the camera from one perspective. That means you can't even look in every direction. The designers only have to draw what you will see by default. That leaves alot of room in memory to put all those little extra details in the graphics. And adding 1080p as the highest resolution.


Brentsg,


I am not a fanboy, but an anti Microsoft spokesperson. I don't mind about console wars. I just wish that the old days of variety and weirdness would spring back into the catalogs of all the machines available today. I am anti 3D shooter for the reasons that its pushed all the other genres into the corner. Largely due to (and its my opinion only) that Microsoft introduced the online world to console gamers and gave them only a few sorts of games to play using big budgets. They don't seem to be bringing anything that pushes the 360 in a non shooter/non sports way to the market. I haven't read this thread for ages, perhaps somebody said something that triggered a reaction. Sometimes I have time on my hands. Sorry.