Question about some f3 games
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Radiantsvgun
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Question about some f3 games
Hey everyone, are the following games on f3 carts or are they single boards?
Kaiser Knuckle
Grid seeker
Riding Fight- Single PCB
Dungeon Magic
Twin Cobra II- Cart- maybe?
Thanks!
Kaiser Knuckle
Grid seeker
Riding Fight- Single PCB
Dungeon Magic
Twin Cobra II- Cart- maybe?
Thanks!
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Re: Question about some f3 games
There are such things as F3 integrated PCBs? I thought they were all carts...
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Some of the earlier games were only available in single PCB format. Games such as Hat Trick Hero '93 and Rayforce.
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Re: Question about some f3 games
Yeah, some of them are single PCBs. I don't want to start a wild goose chase for nothing. I'm looking for any info anyone has on these.
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"Riding Fight" is single PCB, i have that one so i know for sure.
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Can you post a picture of it?Stefan_L wrote:"Riding Fight" is single PCB, i have that one so i know for sure.
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You don't belive me?robivy64 wrote: Can you post a picture of it?
Hehe.. of course i can post a pic... i'll just need to find the PCB.
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I want to see what it looks like, since it is one of the earliest F3 games.
/hardware fetish
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Radiantsvgun
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Re: Question about some f3 games
Thanks for the info! I hear Twin cobra is on f3 cart- can anyone confirm?Stefan_L wrote:"Riding Fight" is single PCB, i have that one so i know for sure.
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Kaiser Knuckle - CART
Grid seeker - PCB
Riding Fight - PCB
Dungeon Magic - PCB
Twin Cobra II - CART
I have pics of all, but I'm too lazy to post, atm
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Grid seeker - PCB
Riding Fight - PCB
Dungeon Magic - PCB
Twin Cobra II - CART
I have pics of all, but I'm too lazy to post, atm
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Radiantsvgun
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Re: Question about some f3 games
Thanks for the info UD!
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Magic Knight
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You mean cart right?
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Radiantsvgun
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Re: Question about some f3 games
Are you sure? Ive seen the bubble symphony and elevator action II as carts before.
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All of those mentioned above are cart only. I think he made a typo.
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Production run might've been long for some of those. I think I saw something...somewhere? here? ...about there being bootleg cart versions of some games, but I'd be surprised if that was the whole story. I always thought Elevator Action II was well-known to be a cart game (I've seen at least one on the 'Pay), and I have the vague feeling I've seen FayRorce as a cartridge too.
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Just a heads up, Kaiser Knuckle is a 6 button game. So it will probably require rewiring or an adapter for the extra buttons.
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Yeah, it uses a pinout identical to the CPS1 extra buttons pinout so that you can just use a CPS1 kick harness.
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Never go by those lists for what exists in real life. The internet is riddled with "facts" based on typos and rumors.Magic Knight wrote:GFront in Tokyo is selling those games on PCB. Or at least, that's what they have listed on their site.
If they do (which I highly doubt) I'd buy the PCB ver. in a heartbeat as it's either a proto or some creative hack, either of which would be awesome to own.Magic Knight wrote:They have the cart version of Elevator Action Returns for 8,400 yen and the PCB version for 13,000 yen so there must be two versions.
Yeah, we've discussed that. Off the top of my head, there are at least 3 boot carts that I know of, 2 of which were Arabian Magic and Ray Force. Dude sells them on YAJ now and again.Ed Oscuro wrote:I think I saw something...somewhere? here? ...about there being bootleg cart versions of some games, but I'd be surprised if that was the whole story.
Man, I really need to put all my F3 data in one place on the net so people can just point to one place
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Do some places in Japan sell Dankuga? I hear it may have just been a normal release.
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I got a boot Bubble Memories that we looked at here before.
If your F3 cart is missing the Taito silver seal covering the centre screw then take a look inside.
Wonder what if anything the 'F' means afterall Taito made previous F1 and F2 hardware systems.
If your F3 cart is missing the Taito silver seal covering the centre screw then take a look inside.
Wonder what if anything the 'F' means afterall Taito made previous F1 and F2 hardware systems.
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Not sure if that was a question, but if so, F2 is definitely a series. Many good games on it, some of which are modular/swapable. Strange part is that the motherboard does not have the JAMMA edge, the ROM board doespcb_revival wrote:Wonder what if anything the 'F' means afterall Taito made previous F1 and F2 hardware systems.
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A lot of time vendors will state PCB on the F3 stuff, because they are selling the F3 Motherboard and the cart together as a package.
Always best to ask before purchasing.
As for what is cart and what is PCB only, pretty much everything I know has been stated above, but this is what I have and it's all carts:
Bubble Memories
Bubble Symphony
Puchi Carat
Elevator Action Returns
Gekirindan
Arkanoid Returns
Hat Trick Hero '95
Kaiser Knuckle
Kyukyoku Tiger II
Cleopatra Fortune
Puzzle Bobble 2
Puzzle Bobble 2X
Puzzle Bobble 3
Puzzle Bobble 4
Landmaker
Akkanvader
Stuff that I know is on cart that I am still looking for:
Darius Gaiden / Darius Gaiden Extra
Pop 'n Pop
Twin Qix
Top Ranking Stars
Ring Rage
Space Invaders DX - People say PCB only, but I saw a cart version for sale a month ago.
Other stuff I'm looking for that I have yet to confirm:
Grid Seeker: Project Storm Hammer - People say PCB only on this one, which would explain why I have never seen it.
Light Bringer - Pretty sure this is a cart only.
Gunlock (aka Ray Force) - Pretty sure this is PCB only.
Riding Fight - Never seen it, but would not be surprised PCB only.
Always best to ask before purchasing.
As for what is cart and what is PCB only, pretty much everything I know has been stated above, but this is what I have and it's all carts:
Bubble Memories
Bubble Symphony
Puchi Carat
Elevator Action Returns
Gekirindan
Arkanoid Returns
Hat Trick Hero '95
Kaiser Knuckle
Kyukyoku Tiger II
Cleopatra Fortune
Puzzle Bobble 2
Puzzle Bobble 2X
Puzzle Bobble 3
Puzzle Bobble 4
Landmaker
Akkanvader
Stuff that I know is on cart that I am still looking for:
Darius Gaiden / Darius Gaiden Extra
Pop 'n Pop
Twin Qix
Top Ranking Stars
Ring Rage
Space Invaders DX - People say PCB only, but I saw a cart version for sale a month ago.
Other stuff I'm looking for that I have yet to confirm:
Grid Seeker: Project Storm Hammer - People say PCB only on this one, which would explain why I have never seen it.
Light Bringer - Pretty sure this is a cart only.
Gunlock (aka Ray Force) - Pretty sure this is PCB only.
Riding Fight - Never seen it, but would not be surprised PCB only.
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I have Grid Seeker, Light Bringer, Ray Force & Gunlock (both versions) and they are all PCBs.
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Magic Knight
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Ah, that makes sense. Good call.quoth09 wrote:A lot of time vendors will state PCB on the F3 stuff, because they are selling the F3 Motherboard and the cart together as a package.
Uh, how do you know they are on cart (yes, I am calling you out)?quoth09 wrote:Stuff that I know is on cart that I am still looking for:
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Twin Qix
Top Ranking Stars
Ring Rage
Twin Qix - [prototype PCB?]
Top Ranking Stars - PCB only
Ring Rage - PCB only
Space Invaders DX - Both PCB and Cart. The PCB ver. is not F3 hardware, though. I think they just decided to throw it on F3 cart for old time sake
Here is a Yahoo Japan Auction for the PCB: http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n78667814
I've actually been looking to sell mine for a while, and would gladly let my go for a cool $150 shipped, w/ original art.
Oh, and good luck finding Twin Qix. I've never seen one and that is actually saying alot. I've been waiting for one of those boot cart makers to have their way with this game (that and Recal Horn). Also the JP ver. (Twin Qix is the English variant) would be nice (MAME it).
All PCB only. If you see carts of any of these, they are boots. Ray Force and Light Bringer have known boot carts.quoth09 wrote:Other stuff I'm looking for that I have yet to confirm:
Grid Seeker: Project Storm Hammer - People say PCB only on this one, which would explain why I have never seen it.
Light Bringer - Pretty sure this is a cart only.
Gunlock (aka Ray Force) - Pretty sure this is PCB only.
Riding Fight - Never seen it, but would not be surprised PCB only.
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The stand alone pcb could well be the first game in the series - Elevator Action from 1983.