A study, published in today's Australasian Psychiatry journal, found that teens who listen to pop music are more likely to be struggling with their sexuality, those tuning in to rap or heavy metal could be having unprotected sex and drink-driving, and those who favour jazz are usually misfits and loners, prompting a call for doctors to include musical tastes as a diagnostic indicator in mental health assessments.
Nuke wrote:But what about those who like Progressive rock and fusion? I'm fucked, ain't I?
No, just a subset of high school marching band cliques. Possibly membering one.
Heh, if only we had those around here, I'd probably play the tuba =)
What do you give me for my pre/post -punk, post rock and avant grade noise/industrial interests?
Wow... I can't believe this article...
Perpetuating stereotypes. I was about to call major BS here, but the last sentence is the only thing that saves it.
Whenever I hear Linkin Park, I think of the angry teenager who can't stay out past 9 p.m. and goes and vents on his blog. DONT TURN YOUR BACK ON ME, I WONT BE IGNORED!!
I like the quote at the end, given how the article starts.
I also enjoy the implication Goths are listening to medieval music, I picture them all skulking in a club down in a dark basement somewhere, nodding approvingly to someone dressed up as a jester doing a mean solo on a harpsichord. Maybe sometimes you’d get some more rebellious bands playing, smashing their lutes on the ground and kicking over the rommelpots.
Acid King wrote:those tuning in to rap or heavy metal could be having unprotected sex and drink-driving,
I'm all about bumping some hip-hop music but I can't even remember the last time I even thought I might've had the chance to even think about getting laid - even by an ugly chick, protected or otherwise. And I don't drink. And I don't have a car.
hermosaguy wrote:Whenever I hear Linkin Park, I think of the angry teenager who can't stay out past 9 p.m. and goes and vents on his blog. DONT TURN YOUR BACK ON ME, I WONT BE IGNORED!!
Aside from the jazz thing, though, I wouldn't discount this article. One thing to remember is that lots of people stereotype themselves when they decide just to listen to a certain category of music. Music can reach past senility to reawaken memories within a person, and you know from your own listening experience that it can stir feelings. So surprising that many people have the same stereotypical struggles that their ancestors have had before them - but it's also true.
Myself, I generally have a broad smile on my face when I listen to death metal or rap (which isn't often).
I also have a love/hate relationship with much Moody Blues music because it reminds me of when I was a sexually frustrated, uncertain teenager
The Beach Boys are fantastic though. No doubt about it.
Taylor wrote:I like the quote at the end, given how the article starts.
I also enjoy the implication Goths are listening to medieval music, I picture them all skulking in a club down in a dark basement somewhere, nodding approvingly to someone dressed up as a jester doing a mean solo on a harpsichord. Maybe sometimes you’d get some more rebellious bands playing, smashing their lutes on the ground and kicking over the rommelpots.
Ed Oscuro wrote:Aside from the jazz thing, though, I wouldn't discount this article. One thing to remember is that lots of people stereotype themselves when they decide just to listen to a certain category of music. Music can reach past senility to reawaken memories within a person, and you know from your own listening experience that it can stir feelings. So surprising that many people have the same stereotypical struggles that their ancestors have had before them - but it's also true.
I think the problem with the article is the suggestion that musical tastes can somehow be used as a diagnostic tool. Mood tends to determine what music people listen to at particular times but I think it would be screwy for doctors to use it in a diagnosis of mental health. As if a depressed teen who listens to Grief when he is in a bad mood is more likely to commit suicide than a teen who listens to Billie Holliday. I'd like to see that study, though I don't think a relationship would exist.
Sure. Even in tests where they put you in a CAT scanner (and accelerate ur neuronz) and ask you what you feel about a certain subject, give you some media, and ask for your reaction, neuroscientists are careful not to make it a diagnostic tool, just a tool for reflection.
In that sense, I think it's appropriate to allow a mental health professional to use it as an opaque guide for asking questions and possibly to complement other analysis. Let's face it, psychiatrists fucking up diagnoses in court is a common enough occurance; if they just say to you "I think this crazy thing and also that loony thing" during the magical mental tour you're free to tell them why you think otherwise.
For that reason, I wouldn't say that just because it's not 100% correct doesn't mean that it's dangerous or useless. People forgetting their rights and letting poorly trained psychiatrists introduce damning and incorrect character analyses against them at, say, custody hearings is dangerous (see also: never talk to the police thread). The whole of the DSMIV is based on studies which may or may apply to a particular person, but it doesn't mean that they will shoehorn you into a stereotype against other evidence. If they do, it's time to see somebody different.
Acid King wrote:
I think the problem with the article is the suggestion that musical tastes can somehow be used as a diagnostic tool. Mood tends to determine what music people listen to at particular times but I think it would be screwy for doctors to use it in a diagnosis of mental health. As if a depressed teen who listens to Grief when he is in a bad mood is more likely to commit suicide than a teen who listens to Billie Holliday. I'd like to see that study, though I don't think a relationship would exist.
The appropriate distinction is: Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.
Zebra Airforce wrote:And to thinnk that Beach Boys probably made grrreat date rape music at one time.
The music video for "Wouldn't it be Nice" is hilarious, and so is its use in Roger & Me. Good song too.
*beat*
BAM
I always felt like Pet Sounds are a window into the mind of a serial killer (or at least, that's the story I've visualized in my mind while listening to it).
The part about French rap leading to theft and violence makes some sense, though. It sucks so much when I hear it I definitely feel like punching someone.
Side note, working with kids (EDIT: 12-16 teenagers), I realize that the more toubled ones -I'd say 95% of the time- are proud rap (mostly "gangsta") music listeners.
Muchos años después, frente al pelotón de fusilamiento...
That's awesome!
