Reccommend some decent drum & bass

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:15 pm

Need something new to listen to - the nastier the better.

Any recommendations?

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:47 pm

I like Amon Tobin. Check out his albums Permutation and Bricolage.

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:51 pm

I don't generally like drum'n'bass, but there's one CD I like a lot: Dryft — Cell (2000). It's not pure d'n'b; it's called "industrial d'n'b" I believe. Adds some depth and abrasiveness to the sound. Example here.

If you want something really nasty, though, you're better off with breakcore.

Also, Permutation has like 2-3 d'n'b tracks, and even then they're really deviating from the canon.

worstplayer · Post by **worstplayer** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:00 pm

Technical Itch, can't get any more brutal than that.

indstr · Post by **indstr** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:13 pm

Gotta respect the classics:

Goldie - Timeless

This is 100% my favourite album of all time. Amazing amazing stuff, from the 23 minute title track, to the rhythmic intricacies of "sea of tears", great melodies on "Angel" and "state of mind"... Ahhhhhhhhh can 't get enough of it. Even though this came out 13 years ago, I still feel like no one has even come close to this album in terms of percussive complexity. It was way ahead of its time. ESSENTIAL LISTENING

As of lately, I've been listening to

Pendulum - Hold your color.
This has got some interesting poppy kind of songs, really good combination of d&b and actual music

And of course anything mixed by Grooverider or DJ Hype is bound to be good. DJ Hype does some pretty good scratching too

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:29 pm

I love Timeless, too.

I really favour the oldschool type of D´n`B, like all this Reinforced and Metalheadz stuff from the early 90ies. I had an AWESOME record named Internal Affairs - I bought it when I was maybe 14 or 15, Jungle/D´n´B was the first type of music I purchased regularly.

That was one of the four tracks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GZ4nRtmCzU

And I LOVE these Tom and Jerry-tunes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OULQssed ... re=related

I also really love to listen to that Kemistry & Storm Mix CD that came with "Enforcers Above The Law".

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:34 pm

Knowledge Presents: SPL and Limewax

sick stuff

I also recommend Current Value

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:43 pm

evol intent, andy c,spor etc.... for regular d'n'b

check out enduser, slipmat, dj scotch egg for some crazier mashup/borderline gabber/computer generated d'n'b

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:57 pm

jonny5 wrote:evol intent, andy c,spor etc.... for regular d'n'b

check out enduser, slipmat, dj scotch egg for some crazier mashup/borderline gabber/computer generated d'n'b

Getting into breakcore with those other suggestions it looks like. I ripped my username from a Venetian Snares song, you might try some of his stuff if you want the real harder side, although these days I think breakcore as a whole is getting a little too noodly, I don't like the insane drum editing as much as I like hard fast hits.

Some awesome breakcore from last year: rotator - choose your poison, mine is hardcore (tons of metal and ragga influenced sounds, sometimes at the same time)

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:12 am

I'm not sure if breakcore is as nasty as I want to go - I do like Tech itch a lot though, Killabites 2 was an awesome mix.
Venitian Snares is ill, but after Rupert H was going all sick on it, I decided it strayed a little too into industrial territory from the D&B I liked

(I don't suppose anyone has 'Polymorphic' as mixed by Dom and Roland from Killabites 1 do they - can't find that track anywhere.)

Thanks for all the suggestions, and to szycag for that PM - awesome!

I was looking for something to buy recently D&B wise - some of my fave stuff is the aforementioned Tech Itch and The Four Elements album (Renegade Hardware).
Any suggestions along those lines is good!

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:14 am

szycag wrote:
Some awesome breakcore from last year: rotator - choose your poison, mine is hardcore (tons of metal and ragga influenced sounds, sometimes at the same time)

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just tracked this down.....

OMFG!!!!

this is my shit right here!!!!!!

.....i am so out of the loop.....please give me more artists like this to listen too......

i am all about the ragga/gabber/dnb shiz.....you called it breakcore......so shitmat woud be classified as breakcore.......i got onto this stuff randomly.....

my buddy handed me an enduser album saying he thought i would dig it....

loved it....tracked down more and it was a live set....with shitmat....tracked down more shitmat...enter DJ scotch egg.....

i love the crazy IDM....its often chaotic but thats what i like

give me more!![/b]

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:56 am

I've seen shitmat a few times live now, and to be honest, unless you're fucked on something, he's not that exciting. Very very generic. And rather too white to justify his constant 'oh my gosh'-ing. I'd love to find some absolutely nasty breakcore, something like Venetian Snares live (the studio stuff is pretty tame) or DJ 100000000 at his nastiest.

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:13 am

Shitmat's live sets are obnoxious, no consistency at all. On record, it seems like half the time he's taking the piss of himself and the other he's trying to actually make something hard and fast. One of his first 7 inches, Shopliftin Gabba, is still one of the best things he's ever done.

If you like the jungle/metal hybrid style: Bong-ra, who I got to see live, had a pretty awesome set. His latest LP's called "full metal racket"... There's also Aaron Spectre's "Drumcorps" project, just one short LP of that so far http://www.drumcorps.cc/ At the moment that has a four track mp3 mix on it, pretty nice.

Venetian Snares albums break down into about four categories:

Dark Hardcore (fucked up): Doll Doll Doll, Find Candace, Making Orange Things, printf (Shiver in eternal Darkness), Meathole
Ravey Hardcore/Gabber: Higgins Ultra Low Track..., Happy Hardcore Pompoms, Winnipeg is a Frozen Shithole, Chocolate Wheelchair
Classical/Symphonic +breaks: Rossz Csillag..., My Downfall
Weirdish circuit bending/melodic stuff: Horse and Goat, Huge Chrome Cylinder Box Unfolding, Songs About My Cats

...and I don't think that's even half of the stuff he's put out, most people will hear one album and hate it then be totally floored by something else he does, he's just all over the place. I find it hard to recommend stuff by him. If I could pick any track to recommend though it would probably be "Make Ronnie Rocket"

A friend of mine makes ragga jungle under the name "Murderbot", his track "My Streets" is really good... lately he's been doing dubstep and juke/club stuff though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KpZnef1 ... re=related something fun

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:23 am

MX7 wrote:I'd love to find some absolutely nasty breakcore, something like Venetian Snares live

Haha, ok, here you are. :D
Recorded at Abracadabra'07 on the equipment mentioned above. It wasn't very "live", though, rather a non-stop mix of his studio stuff. Yes, there wasn't much bass (besides the fact that my mic is bad at it).

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:28 am

moozooh wrote:
MX7 wrote:I'd love to find some absolutely nasty breakcore, something like Venetian Snares live
Haha, ok, here you are.
Recorded at Abracadabra'07 on the equipment mentioned above. It wasn't very "live", though, rather a non-stop mix of his studio stuff. Yes, there wasn't much bass (besides the fact that my mic is bad at it).

Awesome, I love bootlegs

I take it you've found the massive amount live recordings posted on vsnares.com?

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:37 am

haha, I've seen those mixes before moozooh, I was wondering if it was the same moozooh from shmups forums... here's the ones mx7 is talking about

http://www.vsnares.com/Live/

The Breezeblock set is a perfect introduction to his stuff IMO

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:42 am

Ha, didn't even know about those. Well, obviously VSnares's own recordings are better than mine (duh). :)

Still doesn't beat being there, which I fortunately have experienced.

MX7 · Post by **MX7** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:48 am

moozooh wrote:Ha, didn't even know about those. Well, obviously VSnares's own recordings are better than mine (duh).

Still doesn't beat being there, which I fortunately have experienced.

I think the majority of them at least are other people recording them, but some of them are seriously good quality. One of them, I think it's the Detroit one is such good quality that I actually feel guilty for being able to download it for free

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:58 am

Now that I've actually listened to that recording, it does seem to be a bootleg as well. Mine lacks bass, and the one on the site is muffled and has ugly compression artifacts on highs.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:14 am

szycag wrote:Knowledge Presents: SPL and Limewax

sick stuff

I also recommend Current Value

This is awesome!

jonny5 · Post by **jonny5** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:28 am

hahah......i have some limewax here somewhere...lolz

and im gonna check out this venetian snare you guys keep talking about.....i found there discography

and thanx a bunch for that rotator recommendation...this is gonna get some heavy play.....gonna try and find more

szycag · Post by **szycag** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:53 am

http://www.myspace.com/currentvalue

I love his style of constant drum rolls over slowly unfolding horns and shit in the back, with guttural growl/grunt stabs every once in a while, totally unrelenting

D · Post by D » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:29 pm

Do check out bbc 1xtra online radio
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/drumbass/
The quality is very low, but there are lots of great beats from great dj's.

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:49 pm

i am a long time dnb listener, and i recommend

Photek - Modus Operandi (Album); Ni-Ten-Ichi-Ryu (12")
All albums by Ed Rush & Optical
Any early Metalheadz 1994 - 1997
V Recordings /Penny Black 1994 - 1997
Ruffige Cru (Goldie) 's latest album - Malice in Wonderland
DJ Krust - first album dont remember the name, but has Second Movement on it
Adam F - Metropolis
J Majik - ft Kathy Brown - Love is not a Game / also Spaced Invader (both 12"'s)
Lots more, but my memory is s**t

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:15 pm

Thanks for that DC906270, that's a good list.

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:46 pm

I like Capital J, Dieselboy, Tech Itch, Freaky Flow, Pendulum, Mampi Swift...

http://www.dnb-sets.de/ this might be fun 'n useful.

Arcatech · Post by **Arcatech** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:40 pm

This podcast is pretty good for the dark stuff. Its the Freakshow mixed by Dylan. He plays some pretty heavy shit.

http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... did=555594

http://www.gasmrecordings.com/heavybag/ ... 6-2008.mp3

Also another good radio show comes out of New Zealand. The Next Level hosted by State of Mind. I am seriously addicted to this show. Love their tune selection

http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... 63&cache=4

I could go on and on listing random podcasts but you get the idea.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:03 pm

if you want some really nasty and evil breakcore, i'd recommend
Dev/Null. It's a guy who usually listened to grindcore stuff and didnt
find anything equally hard in electric music that he liked, so he made his own. it's an absolutely gorgeous audio overload.

another group i can recommend is the eraplee noisewall orchestra.
they are not soooo breakcore, but sound just like a kick in you face.

PM me please and i will provide further *cough* information.

ROBOTRON · Post by **ROBOTRON** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:49 pm

Squarepusher

theres some decent stuff scattered around on compilation disc like the Om Lounge series.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:31 pm

I only know Amon Tobin from the Splinter Cell CT soundtrack; what else of his is good?