Keep reachin' for that rainbow!

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:12 am

Let's see how long this one takes to fly off the handle.
Okay to be gay in California (same sex marriage)

Necronopticous · Post by **Necronopticous** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:25 am

Wow. Progress.

What a fucking concept.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:25 am

*watches as the world spins normally like it did before*

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:51 am

Specineff wrote:*watches as the world spins normally like it did before*

In a ballerina costume, like a 45 RPM record.

t0yrobo · Post by **t0yrobo** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:19 am

It's good to see that some people have the sense to realize that legal marriage and religious marriage are two separate things.

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:22 am

oh snap

dissed by religion

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:33 am

Fuck that, I want in on those marriage tax breaks. I want to be hitched to my car and anyone who disagrees is a freakin bigot!

Stormwatch · Post by **Stormwatch** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:36 am

some bible-thumping dinosaur wrote:"So-called 'same-sex' marriage is counterfeit marriage. Marriage is, and has always been, between a man and a woman."

There's a name for this: argumentum ad antiquitatem.

honorless · Post by **honorless** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:04 pm

t0yrobo wrote:It's good to see that some people have the sense to realize that legal marriage and religious marriage are two separate things.

quoted for fucking truth

though i suppose it'll take several more decades for most of the US to realize this

Michaelm · Post by **Michaelm** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:06 pm

t0yrobo wrote:It's good to see that some people have the sense to realize that legal marriage and religious marriage are two separate things.

One brings financial gain and the other brings afterlife gain.
I think they are quite alike indeed.
Both have no other purpose then to bring gain.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:06 pm

Michaelm wrote: Both have no other purpose then to bring gain.

Yes, summed up perfectly. That is the ONLY reason people get married.

Michaelm · Post by **Michaelm** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:31 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
Michaelm wrote: Both have no other purpose then to bring gain.
Yes, summed up perfectly. That is the ONLY reason people get married.

Hehe, ofcourse not.
The main reason is that its considered a normal thing to do.
Sorta like the one sheep over the bridge story.
And then everyone wants to throw the best party.

Anyway I see no difference in people just living together or being married.
Getting married does NOT bring anything special to those that choose to live together other then the financial gain or the religious gain or being a status symbol.

Thinimus · Post by **Thinimus** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:45 pm

I don't find gay marriage to be a problem, but can you imagine the horror that would be gay divorce?

PROMETHEUS · Post by **PROMETHEUS** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:04 pm

Thinimus wrote:I don't find gay marriage to be a problem, but can you imagine the horror that would be gay divorce? :shock:

no clue why you think it would be more horrible than non-gay divorces

Lordstar · Post by **Lordstar** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:05 pm

Thinimus wrote:I don't find gay marriage to be a problem, but can you imagine the horror that would be gay divorce?

I could say any number of witty things right now but it far too easy. But yeah that would be a mine field. theres only one thing worse than a gay divorce and thats a Gay womens divorce. . . two words

Fucking drama

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:12 pm

Thinimus wrote:I don't find gay marriage to be a problem, but can you imagine the horror that would be gay divorce?

gay divorce will be mostly just "eh, whatever" while lesbian divorces will be a nuclear blast in magnitude

despite that lesbian couples proportionally stick together far longer than heterosexual ones

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:07 pm

Anyway I see no difference in people just living together or being married.

Nor does the US government.

gay divorce will be mostly just "eh, whatever"

You've clearly never seen a gay break up.

honorless · Post by **honorless** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:22 pm

...yeah, sounds like very few people here actually know any gay guys

GaijinPunch wrote:
Anyway I see no difference in people just living together or being married.
Nor does the US government.

wait what

domestic partnerships for hetero couples who live together are only available if one of you is very old, IIRC
"if we live together for long enough the state will consider us common-law married" is a myth too

or did you mean some other type of difference?

Post by **undamned** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:49 pm

Lordstar wrote:theres only one thing worse than a gay divorce and thats a Gay womens divorce. . . two words

Fucking drama

Oh, snap! I never even thought about twice the female emotion involved

But then that depends on how butch one of them may be. I'd be curious about the numbers on that, as far as how many lesbian couples have clear roles where one partner is more "manly" than the other. As the same data would be interesting for gay male couples, too.
-ud

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:09 pm

domestic partnerships for hetero couples who live together are only available if one of you is very old, IIRC

You is recalling wrong. Share a house and checkbooks with your opposite sex partner. When you break up, get a lawyer. But of course, this depends on where in the states you live. Some states (Texas, for example) don't even have alimony for people that are married under 20 years. Obviously any penalties from a common law arrangement wouldn't be very severe.

Other places, like California, and even before this, you might be legally bound to offer some type of support to a same-sex partner in a similar situation. That's the beauty of the US legal system. It can be bent in many ways.

doodude · Post by **doodude** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:39 pm

Oh goodie, now I can marry my sister my brother & my dog spot & everyone will accept me!

Praise the, um......Lizard People! Yeah, thats it, praise them Lizarderonians! Wheeeee......

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:57 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:
Twiddle wrote:gay divorce will be mostly just "eh, whatever"
You've clearly never seen a gay break up.

I thought Twiddle is gay?

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:33 pm

No, it's Gaijinpunch thats gay. His wife is purely a facade.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:37 pm

Skykid wrote:No, it's Gaijinpunch thats gay. His wife is purely a facade.

Not just that. His wife is actually a dude! And his kid is a clone!

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:38 pm

he did think it important enough to start a thread....

y'know, i don't think it's a joke avatar either....

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:41 pm

Try hotlinking an image from his website in this thread.

That will offer an even better clue!

jpj · Post by **jpj** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:49 pm

i've seen that pic..... usually in a GP post...... hmm.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:31 pm

t0yrobo wrote:It's good to see that some people have the sense to realize that legal marriage and religious marriage are two separate things.

If you ask me government ought to stop "marrying" people and stick exclusively to civil unions, or whatever one cares to call them - if people want to marry, they can go to any church they please which will take them. They want legal status as partners, they should get a civil union.

This bit of failure of separation of church and state that we have now tends to greatly and unnecessarily complicate things.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:50 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
t0yrobo wrote:It's good to see that some people have the sense to realize that legal marriage and religious marriage are two separate things.
If you ask me government ought to stop "marrying" people and stick exclusively to civil unions, or whatever one cares to call them - if people want to marry, they can go to any church they please which will take them. They want legal status as partners, they should get a civil union.

This bit of failure of separation of church and state that we have now tends to greatly and unnecessarily complicate things.

That's my thinking on the issue. No marriage for homo or hetero couples, just civil unions for both.

Michaelm · Post by **Michaelm** » Fri May 16, 2008 10:21 pm

Kinda cool how marriage seems to be a monotheistic monopoly