c64 vs
MSX
erm .... I guess screenshots say it all.
I don't remember playing R-Type on the C64... but the biggest mistake of R-type on MSX was that Irem actually wanted the game to work in an MSX 1, while having "slightly updated graphics" when running on an MSX 2. If the game was fully done for the MSX 2, it certainly would be a better game.
As it stands, it's an impressive achievement for an MSX 1 game, I think it's also the biggest MSX 1 game around (384 kb if I remember correctly, because of this the game was a bitch to crack, it's actually bigger than most MSX 2 games, and it doesn't fit in the 256 kb memory of your typical MSX 2). It's also, AFAIK, the only home version made by Irem itself.
And Super Laydock a japanese Xenon 2? Get real... Super Laydock is like 100 times better than the AMIGA version of Xenon 2, let alone a C64 version...
MSX version of 1942 doesn't run in a tiny window, that's just a border on the screenshot. This looks more like the real game:
1942 MSX
By the way, I actually have played Yiear Kung-Fu 2 on the C64, and it plays horribly compared to the MSX one. But I'll give that the MSX one is the original made by the almighty Konami, while the C64 was a port probably made iby some random European team.
Bring it on... the C64 is no competition for the MSX.
And if I was in a true 8 bits computer flame war, I'd ignore the good arguments
. But yeah, the MSX PSG is no match for the C64 SID. I think that even with an FM-Pac or Konami games with SCC don't match with the SID songs (And of course, I think Europe got better musicians than Japan in the game department). But an MSX with a Moonsound shits on the SID chip.. but it's unfair, as the Moonsound was released VERY late in the MSX Lifespan, and nearly no games support it.
And I haven't played Outrun on the C64, so I can't compare, but the MSX one is very playable. but regarding racing games, can you give me something like F1-Spirit Special ?
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http://www.lexlechz.at/msx/images/SccF13Ds.jpg
(Sorry Turrican for turning this on an MSX vs C64 thread.. I can stop it if this is annoying you, but as like Icarus pointed out, this is a nostalgic thread, and there's nothing more nostalgic to me than the old computer wars.. mine is better than yours.. but if this annoys you, I won't mention the MSX anymore on this thread:) )