Judging by the high score thread, 42 people apparently have. That's over half of the number of people that voted so Ketsui easily could have ranked.Dandy J wrote:NO ONE CAN PLAY ITNTSC-J wrote:Looks like Ketsui got shafted yet again. Shameful.
5th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - Results
Stargate / Defender 2 (ARC/PS2/XBOX/GC/etc.) ??!!
In the honorable mention?
I would have hoped Konami's Scramble would have done better.
The GBA & PC versions look cool:
http://www.henricus.eu/scramble/
In the honorable mention?
I would have hoped Konami's Scramble would have done better.
The GBA & PC versions look cool:
http://www.henricus.eu/scramble/
Saint Dragon - AMIGA - Jaleco 1989
"In the first battle against the Guardian's weapons, created with Vasteel Technology, humanity suffered a crushing defeat."
Thunder Force V
"In the first battle against the Guardian's weapons, created with Vasteel Technology, humanity suffered a crushing defeat."
Thunder Force V
I'm just happy Radiant Silvergun didn't make the top 5jp wrote:This list needs to be a completely different list.Worst one yet I'd say.
what a relief!
APB a top performer?
That I'm thrilled by. That's probably the best thing about the list.
I'd also like to note if the REAL Black Label Ibara was released on the PS2 port, it would easily have made the top 25. It's what the original should have been.
Seeing an Eugene Jarvis arcade masterpiece from 1981 (an Arena shmup by my definition) on the list is most definitely NOT a "flaw", IMO.God wrote:-Only 3 people voted for it.j^aws wrote:glad to see Stargate up there...
-Looks like it made the HM list just because you put your whole vote behind it.
-Seems like a big flaw in the voting system.
That looks like the Atari 2600 version... My vote was for the far superior, original 6-button Arcade version, with the 2-way vertical stick... and Stargate >>> Scramble, IMO.ST Dragon wrote:Stargate / Defender 2 (ARC/PS2/XBOX/GC/etc.) ??!!
In the honorable mention?
...
"All that matters really is taste. He might like the game, he might not." - Anonymous
j^aws wrote:That looks like the Atari 2600 version... My vote was for the far superior, original 6-button Arcade version, with the 2-way vertical stick... and Stargate >>> Scramble, IMO.ST Dragon wrote:Stargate / Defender 2 (ARC/PS2/XBOX/GC/etc.) ??!!
In the honorable mention?
...
Any Links?
I never knew it even existed?
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Saint Dragon - AMIGA - Jaleco 1989
"In the first battle against the Guardian's weapons, created with Vasteel Technology, humanity suffered a crushing defeat."
Thunder Force V
"In the first battle against the Guardian's weapons, created with Vasteel Technology, humanity suffered a crushing defeat."
Thunder Force V
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Super Laydock
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Rob wrote:And where did the Giga Wing supporters go?
Hell, I even upped my support for it this year.
It just had it's momentum last year I guess. Now it's back to around the position it had the years before.
Only really positive about this list is DOJ finally entering the top 10 and Border Down hanging in there and even managing to climb a little.
Oh and I would have hope for an honourable mention at least for Silversword, now more people have actually played it.
Well, there's always next year.
Barroom hero!
Bathroom hero!
Bathroom hero!
ST Dragon wrote: ...
Any Links?
I never knew it even existed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_%28video_game%29
http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?let ... me_id=9780
http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Stargate
...info on the game and some strategy.
There are some 'butchered' versions around with auto-thrust; but the original arcade was designed to be played with manual-thrust and 'reverse' mapped to a button: This gives you 'finer' control. Also, 'invisio' is your friend, contrary to what some reviews say... it can be used for both offence and defence...
"All that matters really is taste. He might like the game, he might not." - Anonymous
!
The mainstream games ranked highest - perhaps due to exposure. ie. Gradius V, RS, Ika.
Ketsui didn't rank - again due to Lack of exposure. Simply that.
Personally, I'm glad to see Border Down and APB making it high.
Now.....will anyone actually play Border Down
BulletMagnet wrote;
Well if it makes you any happier, I'm not a Rankophile myself. I could do without insane levels of it. But I just happen to like a lot of the Raizing titles and BD.
Regs, DEL
Ketsui didn't rank - again due to Lack of exposure. Simply that.
Personally, I'm glad to see Border Down and APB making it high.
Now.....will anyone actually play Border Down
BulletMagnet wrote;
.Same with Border Down and Rayforce...the Rankophiles are out in force even moreso than last year
Well if it makes you any happier, I'm not a Rankophile myself. I could do without insane levels of it. But I just happen to like a lot of the Raizing titles and BD.
Regs, DEL
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Game Total Sc Votes Import
Top 25:
DoDonpachi : 6.814664 36.451200 1.932641
Gradius V : 6.812450 39.244800 1.776665
Battle Garegga : 6.458351 35.451200 1.781428
Armed Police Batrider : 5.893989 28.601600 1.833505
Ikaruga : 5.812653 30.507200 1.680827
Radiant Silvergun : 5.424429 25.984000 1.706205
Raiden DX : 5.276131 25.716800 1.635019
ESPGaluda : 4.666008 24.252800 1.362341
Shikigami no Shiro 2 / Castle Shikigami 2 : 4.587281 29.715200 1.014221
Dodonpachi Daioujou : 4.545905 25.060800 1.247964
Border Down : 4.396792 26.193600 1.098782
Thunderforce III : 4.384326 19.952000 1.437177
Rayforce / Layer Section / Galactic Attack / Gunlock: 4.173369 26.923200 0.928842
Gradius Gaiden : 4.130278 24.000000 1.065728
ESPRade : 4.126386 26.734400 0.912057
Gunbird 2 : 4.077864 22.627200 1.111356
Mushihimesama : 3.950747 21.963200 1.074423
R-Type Delta : 3.895676 22.574400 1.008649
Mars Matrix : 3.782551 23.977600 0.865359
Giga Wing : 3.751546 21.561600 0.981166
Batsugun / Batsugun Special Version : 3.699725 22.659200 0.890342
Soukyugurentai : 3.687050 23.224000 0.851718
Einhänder : 3.614876 22.561600 0.846552
Thunderforce IV / Lightening Force : 3.575488 20.496000 0.938095
Under Defeat : 3.561412 21.926400 0.850727
Honorable Mention:
R-Type : 3.545807 21.960000 0.839819
Ketsui : 3.454270 9.313600 1.487028
Guwange : 3.312900 20.284800 0.797543
Strikers 1945 II : 3.245775 22.419200 0.640435
Thunderforce V : 3.031781 17.081600 0.811927
G.Darius : 2.990885 19.899200 0.632194
Progear no Arashi : 2.963874 20.548800 0.580563
Donpachi : 2.921883 18.491200 0.670154
Darius Gaiden : 2.774261 17.931200 0.615573
Dragon Blaze : 2.701726 14.414400 0.768257
Battle Bakraid : 2.627041 14.478400 0.721412
Sexy Parodius : 2.483540 15.921600 0.558295
Ibara / Ibara Black Label : 2.419213 13.009600 0.682248
Blazing Star : 2.327771 15.196800 0.508116
Musha Aleste / M.U.S.H.A. : 2.309572 14.345600 0.544699
Stargate / Defender 2 : 2.226341 3.000000 1.124694
Dangun Feveron : 2.092921 14.852800 0.391001
Pulstar : 1.890649 12.729600 0.391295
Lords of Thunder / Winds of Thunder : 1.853539 11.000000 0.465554
Twin Cobra / Kyukyoku Tiger : 1.831106 11.160000 0.443687
The Rest:
Salamander (FC) / Life Force (NES) : 1.712356 11.921600 0.332665
Zero Gunner 2 : 1.697176 13.230400 0.251389
R-Type III: The Third Lightning : 1.684904 10.000000 0.423154
Parodius Da! : 1.668088 10.160000 0.404545
Zanac Neo : 1.645945 11.000000 0.345192
Raiden II : 1.635546 11.000000 0.339163
Psyvariar 2 : 1.629284 10.696000 0.352366
Giga Wing 2 : 1.562110 11.313600 0.279220
Recca : 1.519216 8.577600 0.405854
19XX: The War Against Destiny : 1.498166 11.331200 0.241171
Axelay : 1.479524 11.000000 0.248703
Hyper Duel : 1.468463 8.160000 0.399552
Twinkle Star Sprites : 1.446518 8.865600 0.347757
Raiden Fighters : 1.438018 7.000000 0.446134
Viewpoint : 1.426852 9.934400 0.277171
Gaiares : 1.414800 9.000000 0.321925
Raiden : 1.401518 9.000000 0.314224
Super Aleste / Space Megaforce : 1.394016 7.000000 0.420622
Strikers 1945 : 1.386067 10.160000 0.241031
Soldier Blade : 1.302095 10.000000 0.201205
Gradius II: Gofer no Yabou / Vulcan Venture : 1.296328 8.160000 0.299749
Raiden Fighters Jet : 1.293582 7.313600 0.345026
Harmful Park : 1.222104 9.000000 0.210201
R-Type Final : 1.203410 8.000000 0.254736
Apidya : 1.150684 8.000000 0.224166
Gate of Thunder : 1.137533 9.000000 0.161167
Gradius III SNES : 1.104880 7.000000 0.252983
Xexex : 1.099516 7.000000 0.249873
Fire Shark / Same! Same! Same! : 1.094171 8.160000 0.182540
Warning Forever : 1.087468 7.184000 0.232699
Gradius / Nemesis : 1.076016 6.921600 0.240589
Galaga : 1.072163 6.550400 0.258910
R-Type II : 1.066623 8.000000 0.175428
Salamander 2 : 1.060189 7.000000 0.227072
Psyvariar / Psyvariar Revision : 1.018218 6.865600 0.210179
Truxton / Tatsujin : 0.981374 5.577600 0.260139
Perfect Cherry Blossom : 0.981269 5.640000 0.256623
Cyvern : 0.975129 6.160000 0.224269
Cho Ren Sha 68K : 0.940291 6.577600 0.180946
Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius : 0.937273 5.921600 0.215521
Strikers 1945 Plus : 0.927656 6.000000 0.205604
Dimahoo / Great Mahou Daisakusen : 0.921246 7.424000 0.123035
Gunbird : 0.907257 6.000000 0.193777
Omega Fighter : 0.889410 1.000000 0.460299
Imperishable Night : 0.871192 5.640000 0.192801
Gynoug / Wings of Wor : 0.854176 7.000000 0.107627
Sky Shark / Flying Shark / Hishouzame : 0.836695 6.313600 0.135500
Giga Wing Generations : 0.825579 6.705600 0.107348
Last Resort : 0.819990 5.160000 0.189694
Nexzr : 0.813073 5.000000 0.194543
Viper Phase 1 : 0.812769 6.000000 0.138993
R-Type Leo : 0.798541 6.000000 0.130744
RayStorm : 0.791054 4.921600 0.186119
Homura : 0.788402 5.480000 0.153660
Gokujyo Parodius : 0.758747 5.000000 0.163046
Truxton 2 / Tatsujin Ou : 0.747857 5.577600 0.124748
Super Star Soldier : 0.732416 5.000000 0.147779
Blazing Lazers / Gunhed : 0.724316 4.000000 0.198457
Game Tengoku : 0.708740 4.000000 0.189426
Tempest 2000 : 0.707214 4.000000 0.188542
Salamander (ARC) / Salamander (PCE) : 0.700433 4.921600 0.133577
Hellfire : 0.683277 4.160000 0.165803
Shikigami no Shiro : 0.666936 5.000000 0.109815
Sengoku Blade / Tengai : 0.666864 4.705600 0.126075
Pink Sweets : 0.656218 4.000000 0.158974
Vasara : 0.646205 5.000000 0.097795
Zanac (NES) / Zanac EX : 0.644364 4.000000 0.152101
The Guardian Legend : 0.613463 3.000000 0.189559
Raiden III : 0.608030 3.921600 0.135377
Darius / Darius Plus : 0.601620 4.000000 0.127319
1943 : 0.598669 4.160000 0.116748
Power Strike II (SMS) : 0.593065 4.000000 0.122358
Cotton 2 : 0.585958 4.000000 0.118238
Gleylancer : 0.578347 4.000000 0.113825
Radilgy : 0.577830 4.000000 0.113526
Trizeal : 0.574951 4.000000 0.111856
Shikigami no Shiro 3 : 0.554458 2.577600 0.178738
Elemental Master : 0.552382 4.000000 0.098771
Eliminate Down : 0.551181 4.000000 0.098075
Cotton Boomerang : 0.547897 3.921600 0.100512
Slap Fight : 0.531832 3.000000 0.142230
Galaga '88 : 0.530008 2.865600 0.148615
Steel Empire : 0.524391 4.000000 0.082542
Robotron 2084 : 0.516895 3.000000 0.133570
Thunderforce II : 0.514496 4.000000 0.076805
1942 : 0.513821 3.160000 0.122928
Gun.Smoke : 0.513815 4.000000 0.076410
Triggerheart Exelica : 0.509841 3.921600 0.078447
Gradius III AC : 0.497028 3.000000 0.122051
Xevious : 0.493512 3.000000 0.120013
Boogie Wings : 0.493490 3.000000 0.120000
Undead Line : 0.483299 3.000000 0.114091
Aleste / Power Strike : 0.477361 3.000000 0.110648
Gradius 2 MSX / Nemesis '90 Kai : 0.472047 2.000000 0.162941
RayCrisis : 0.463500 3.000000 0.102612
Geometry Wars: Evolved : 0.459374 3.000000 0.100220
Blast Wind : 0.457087 3.000000 0.098893
Gun Frontier : 0.444643 3.000000 0.091679
1943 Kai : 0.442190 3.000000 0.090256
Spriggan : 0.442131 3.000000 0.090222
ESPGaluda II : 0.424519 2.000000 0.135385
Zero Wing : 0.421593 3.000000 0.078314
Biohazard Battle : 0.413268 3.000000 0.073488
Strikers 1945 III / Strikers 1999 : 0.408628 3.313600 0.053432
Sengoku Ace : 0.403145 2.774400 0.080111
Shienryu : 0.399896 3.000000 0.065734
Vasara 2 : 0.399269 2.921600 0.069713
X-Multiply : 0.388590 3.160000 0.050320
Zanac (MSX) : 0.386810 1.160000 0.160036
In the Hunt : 0.385878 2.921600 0.061949
Noiz2sa : 0.383691 2.705600 0.072641
Tempest : 0.379807 1.000000 0.164835
UN Squadron (SNES) : 0.376151 3.000000 0.051968
Metal Black : 0.371935 2.193600 0.094177
Gyruss : 0.369397 3.000000 0.048052
Tempest X3 : 0.364224 3.000000 0.045052
Mushihimesama Futari : 0.356671 2.313600 0.078682
Choujikuu Yousai Macross: Scrambled Valkyrie : 0.356271 3.000000 0.040441
Parsec47 : 0.355212 3.000000 0.039827
Space Manbow : 0.346429 2.000000 0.090109
Judgement Silversword : 0.345924 2.000000 0.089816
Gradius Galaxies/Generation/Advance : 0.334854 2.000000 0.083398
Aero Fighters II : 0.333075 1.921600 0.086708
Centipede : 0.326070 3.000000 0.022931
Salamander (MSX) : 0.323197 1.000000 0.132013
Airrade Air : 0.321978 2.000000 0.075933
Z-Out : 0.320743 2.000000 0.075216
rRootage : 0.317767 2.409600 0.050810
Vulgus : 0.317639 2.000000 0.073416
Gun-Nac : 0.315518 2.000000 0.072187
Mahou Daisakusen / Sorcer Striker : 0.312433 2.160000 0.061539
Tumiki Fighters : 0.310863 2.409600 0.046807
Sonic Wings Special : 0.301655 2.000000 0.064149
Mr. Heli no Daibouken : 0.278174 2.000000 0.050535
Dragon Saber : 0.276014 2.000000 0.049283
Swiv : 0.273620 2.000000 0.047895
Robotron 64 : 0.270881 2.000000 0.046306
UN Squadron / Area 88 (ARC) : 0.266902 2.000000 0.044000
Silpheed: The Lost Planet : 0.266889 2.000000 0.043992
Storm Blade : 0.258406 2.000000 0.039074
Xenon 2 : 0.251323 1.705600 0.051269
Bangai-O : 0.250095 2.000000 0.034255
Over Horizon : 0.247031 2.000000 0.032479
Image Fight : 0.246534 2.160000 0.023331
Uridium II : 0.243702 1.000000 0.085923
Ultimate Stage : 0.242652 2.000000 0.029940
Aero Fighters : 0.242485 2.000000 0.029843
Gradius IV : 0.239764 2.000000 0.028265
V-Five : 0.237179 2.000000 0.026766
Bullet Hell GBA : 0.235896 2.000000 0.026023
Cybattler : 0.233546 2.000000 0.024660
Robo Aleste : 0.231162 2.000000 0.023278
Thunder Force AC : 0.230760 2.000000 0.023045
Chaos Field : 0.229703 2.000000 0.022432
Gunroar : 0.229477 1.409600 0.054994
Kamui : 0.217505 1.705600 0.031662
Spy Hunter : 0.214406 1.230400 0.056179
Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire : 0.212259 1.000000 0.067692
Time Pilot (arcade) : 0.206952 1.000000 0.064615
Prehistoric Isle 2 : 0.202074 1.705600 0.022715
Raiden Fighters 2 : 0.200844 1.640000 0.025634
Twin Cobra II / Kyukyoku Tiger II : 0.200744 2.000000 0.005642
Super Fantasy Zone : 0.196788 2.000000 0.003348
Ibara Arranged (PS2) : 0.196369 1.000000 0.058480
Sonic Wings 3 : 0.196338 1.000000 0.058462
Thunder Blade - Master System : 0.196338 1.000000 0.058462
Gemini Wing : 0.195709 2.000000 0.002722
Dragon Breed : 0.193464 1.640000 0.021356
Darius II / Sagaia : 0.192950 1.000000 0.056497
Forgotten Worlds : 0.191480 2.000000 0.000271
Kyuiin : 0.173905 1.000000 0.045455
Terra Force : 0.169804 1.000000 0.043077
Varth : 0.169214 1.000000 0.042735
Sylphia PCE : 0.167371 1.000000 0.041667
Carnival (The Sega Developed game) : 0.166172 1.000000 0.040971
Brave Blade : 0.164497 1.000000 0.040000
Shippu Mahou Daisakusen / Kingdom Grandprix : 0.164497 1.000000 0.040000
Magical Chase : 0.164497 1.000000 0.040000
Keio Flying Squadron : 0.163722 1.000000 0.039551
Sonic Sisters : 0.163555 1.000000 0.039454
revenge of robot cats from mars : 0.162681 1.000000 0.038947
SCAT : 0.160937 1.000000 0.037936
Twin Bee Yahhoo! : 0.159190 1.000000 0.036923
thundercross : 0.159050 1.000000 0.036842
Wings of Death : 0.158388 1.000000 0.036458
Sky Kid : 0.158320 1.000000 0.036419
Astro Smash : 0.158320 1.000000 0.036419
solar striker : 0.157235 1.000000 0.035789
Beamrider : 0.156483 1.000000 0.035354
Gun Ranger X : 0.155703 1.000000 0.034901
1941 (arcade) : 0.153883 1.000000 0.033846
DoDonpachi 2 Bee Storm : 0.153883 1.000000 0.033846
Blue Wish Ressurection : 0.153086 1.000000 0.033384
Embodiment of Scarlet Devil (win) : 0.148576 1.000000 0.030769
chariot : 0.148157 1.000000 0.030526
Gekirindan : 0.146535 1.000000 0.029586
Leathal Xcess : 0.146235 1.000000 0.029412
Protector Vectrex : 0.145965 1.000000 0.029255
Edens Edge : 0.145234 1.000000 0.028832
Titanion : 0.145234 1.000000 0.028832
Xevious: Fardraut Densetsu (PCE) : 0.144874 1.160000 0.019763
Air Zonk : 0.144229 1.000000 0.028249
Prehistroic Isle : 0.137242 0.921600 0.028539
Android Assault : 0.135617 1.000000 0.023256
Aldynes : 0.135617 1.000000 0.023256
Image Fight II : 0.135617 1.000000 0.023256
Gyara Puyo : 0.134765 1.000000 0.022762
Last Duel : 0.134765 1.000000 0.022762
Demilition Gunner : 0.132148 1.000000 0.021244
Battle Squadron : 0.131929 1.230400 0.008359
Abadox : 0.131401 1.313600 0.003446
Sispri Gauntlet : 0.130947 1.000000 0.020548
Jets 'n' Guns : 0.129325 1.000000 0.019608
Deluxe Galaga : 0.127616 1.000000 0.018617
Asteroids Deluxe : 0.127348 1.000000 0.018462
Silpheed - Sega CD : 0.127348 1.000000 0.018462
Cannon Spike : 0.126913 1.000000 0.018209
Satans Hollow : 0.126913 1.000000 0.018209
Wing Lancer : 0.124296 1.000000 0.016692
Exed Exes : 0.124296 1.000000 0.016692
IS: Internal Section : 0.122041 1.000000 0.015385
Ironclad Bri'kinger : 0.122041 1.000000 0.015385
Bike Banditz : 0.119133 1.000000 0.013699
Air Gallet : 0.119133 1.000000 0.013699
Spark Spectra : 0.119062 1.000000 0.013657
Rayxanber III : 0.118503 1.000000 0.013333
Smash TV : 0.118442 1.000000 0.013298
Battle Mania 2 : 0.116734 1.000000 0.012308
Torus Trooper : 0.116444 1.000000 0.012140
Katakis (C64) : 0.114460 1.000000 0.010989
Return of the Invaders : 0.114460 1.000000 0.010989
Philosoma : 0.112416 1.000000 0.009804
Xenon : 0.112416 1.000000 0.009804
Steel Saviour : 0.112416 1.000000 0.009804
Gaplus : 0.111427 1.000000 0.009231
Bari-Arm : 0.111427 1.000000 0.009231
Nomltest : 0.111210 1.000000 0.009105
Phalanx : 0.110504 1.000000 0.008696
Fire Mustang MD : 0.110504 1.000000 0.008696
Macross Plus : 0.110123 1.000000 0.008475
Hotdog Storm : 0.109195 1.000000 0.007937
Star Soldier (Gamecube/PS2 version) : 0.106891 1.000000 0.006601
Astro Warrior : 0.106120 1.000000 0.006154
Super Laydock : 0.105753 1.000000 0.005941
Aleste 2 : 0.104614 1.000000 0.005281
Last Hope (DC version!) : 0.104614 1.000000 0.005281
Hybris : 0.104614 1.000000 0.005281
Xevious Arrangement : 0.101256 1.000000 0.003333
Pop 'n Twinbee : 0.101256 1.000000 0.003333
Dropzone : 0.101256 1.000000 0.003333
W-Ring: The Double Rings : 0.100814 1.000000 0.003077
Maerchen Adventure Cotton 100% (sfc) : 0.100814 1.000000 0.003077
Siver Surfer : 0.100814 1.000000 0.003077
berserk : 0.100741 1.000000 0.003035
Out Zone : 0.100447 0.577600 0.026255
Black Widow : 0.098124 1.000000 0.001517
Final Soldier : 0.097819 1.000000 0.001340
Carrier Air Wing : 0.096349 1.000000 0.000488
Bio Metal : 0.096150 1.000000 0.000373
Night Raid : 0.095721 1.000000 0.000124
Gundhara : 0.095622 1.000000 0.000067
SWAT (AC: Sega/ Coreland '84) : 0.095610 1.000000 0.000060
TNK III, aka TANK (AC: SNK '85 : 0.095610 1.000000 0.000060
Lifeforce (JP AC) : 0.095610 1.000000 0.000060
Rafflesia : 0.095597 1.000000 0.000052
Space Duel : 0.095597 1.000000 0.000052
Section Z (AC) : 0.095597 1.000000 0.000052
Solar Fox (AC) : 0.095597 1.000000 0.000052
Scion (AC) : 0.095597 1.000000 0.000052
Ikari Warriors (AC) : 0.095597 1.000000 0.000052
Side Arms (AC) : 0.095584 1.000000 0.000045
Datastorm : 0.095584 1.000000 0.000045
Prikura Daisakusen : 0.095532 1.000000 0.000015
Detana!! Twinbee : 0.095532 1.000000 0.000015
Armalyte (C64) : 0.095532 1.000000 0.000015
Saint Dragon (AMIGA) : 0.095507 1.000000 0.000000
Zen-Ichi : 0.092900 0.577600 0.021879
Area 2048 : 0.065092 0.409600 0.015059
Alpha Mission II : 0.060438 0.160000 0.026182
Skywolf : 0.045386 0.160000 0.017455
Dragon Spirit : 0.035830 0.313600 0.003409
Time Pilot '84 : 0.031105 0.230400 0.005276
Galaxian : 0.020299 0.160000 0.002909
Planet Joker : 0.002912 0.001600 0.001600My FAQs: http://arcanelore.net/
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professor ganson
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Worst list since I've been here:
-no r-type
-no strikers
-zanac neo off the charts
-espgaluda and mushi getting way too much love
-do people actually play DOJ? Regularly? Enjoy!
-and how does DOJ climb, but Mars Matrix free fall?
-I like APB, but 4th best? how does it go from chartless to #4 overall?
-overall there's a lack of appreciation for shmup history here
-still no proper cute-em-up in top 25
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This is nonsense. Honestly, I've seen gaming magazines and websites with more interesting shmup lists.
Thanks, Zach, for your hard work.
-no r-type
-no strikers
-zanac neo off the charts
-espgaluda and mushi getting way too much love
-do people actually play DOJ? Regularly? Enjoy!
-and how does DOJ climb, but Mars Matrix free fall?
-I like APB, but 4th best? how does it go from chartless to #4 overall?
-overall there's a lack of appreciation for shmup history here
-still no proper cute-em-up in top 25
...
This is nonsense. Honestly, I've seen gaming magazines and websites with more interesting shmup lists.
Thanks, Zach, for your hard work.
Last edited by professor ganson on Tue May 08, 2007 1:31 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Gotta love the whining in this thread. People, this list is subjective, it is an percentage of opinion poll, not a list that represents the whole of the shmupping community across the world. Just because X game didnt make the list, is ranked lower or higher than expected, and/or the list differs from what you expect the list to look like, doesn't invalidate the list, it just means that opinion on particular games has shifted and/or more/less people voted this time around. If EVERY SHMUPPER IN THE WORLD had registered to the forum and voted, we'd be seeing a much better spread of votes, and stuff like Ketsui might be in the top 10.
Quit bitching.
Thanks Zach for doing this again. You must get a chuckle out of the following "discussion" every year, right? ^_-
Quit bitching.
Thanks Zach for doing this again. You must get a chuckle out of the following "discussion" every year, right? ^_-
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The bitching is half the reason I read this shit 3 years in a row.
DDP current hi-score: http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1766/ddon0011ki3.png
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Most all of us are in US and Europe and can't go to HEY whenever we like to see the latest stuff, or shop in Akihabara and throttle interest in the classics. I think it's easy to say our list is gonna look pretty hermetic. For 90% of us the coin-op stuff is on there because of MAME, right? I just don't think you're gonna get a very academic look at shmups from a western forum in the first place. We're all rooting for our personal favorites, the underdogs.
That being said, I like this list, if anything it will get people to play Batrider more. Woo!
(looks at professor ganson's votes)
Did you expect to give any of your votes a fighting chance by giving most all of them a middle of the road vote of 2 out of 3? Giving all your votes the same weight means none of them make that big of a dent, am I right? You just didn't want to pick favorites?
Thanks Zach!
That being said, I like this list, if anything it will get people to play Batrider more. Woo!
(looks at professor ganson's votes)
Did you expect to give any of your votes a fighting chance by giving most all of them a middle of the road vote of 2 out of 3? Giving all your votes the same weight means none of them make that big of a dent, am I right? You just didn't want to pick favorites?
Thanks Zach!
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I am glad that APB is finaly getting the attention it deserves this year. If i'd voted Sexy Parodius instead of my favourate Parodius game Parodius DA! then it might of gotten on to the top 25.
Top be honest I am just glad that most people voted for games that they actualy played as supposed to games that people say are cool. After all not all of us are exsposed to exsotic Japanese only Arcade/PS2 releases.
Top be honest I am just glad that most people voted for games that they actualy played as supposed to games that people say are cool. After all not all of us are exsposed to exsotic Japanese only Arcade/PS2 releases.
That's not what I mean, the flaw is how it got there.j^aws wrote:Seeing an Eugene Jarvis arcade masterpiece from 1981 (an Arena shmup by my definition) on the list is most definitely NOT a "flaw", IMO.God wrote:-Only 3 people voted for it.j^aws wrote:glad to see Stargate up there...
-Looks like it made the HM list because just because you put your whole vote behind it.
-Seems like a big flaw in the voting system.
You putting your whole pie behind stargate has the same weight as 13 people putting it at the top of a simple ranked list of 25.
A handful of games got this kind of boost: Gunbird 2, Raiden DX, Ketsui and I'm guessing they moved several ranks because of it.
No, I understood what you meant.God wrote:...
That's not what I mean, the flaw is how it got there.
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You may call it a "flaw"; but I call it a built-in mechanism, inherent in the rules: I believe it's there for when you strongly believe a shmup is lacking 'awareness'... for whatever reason: Accesibility; rarity; obscurity etc...
"All that matters really is taste. He might like the game, he might not." - Anonymous
my sentiments are the same.Danny wrote:Top be honest I am just glad that most people voted for games that they actualy played as supposed to games that people say are cool.
I have yet to vote for DDP and I placed some votes for some games that never get close to garnering any attention on the basis that I enjoyed said game and do not need someone yelling at me saying "well this game in the series is better than that one" etc.
Thanks Zach for the complete list.
My comments:
Not so much a 25 greatest shmups of all time but more like a flavor of the year. Every year its a list of the latest and greatest shooting games. So it is making sense that Cave is the most dominant developer. I am feel that the list should be call "25 greatest shmups for 20XX"
I am voting for all the games that I have play and spend quality time with. Of note I also own every game on my list. Kudos to other folks who are voting for games they are enjoy for endless times not recommeodations or what evers.
It is also make me sad that nobody care about classic console games
I am piss on for liking such games over arcade games sorry console is all I ever know 
sorry for being the poo poo on everyone shoes the smudge on your arcade screen
My comments:
Not so much a 25 greatest shmups of all time but more like a flavor of the year. Every year its a list of the latest and greatest shooting games. So it is making sense that Cave is the most dominant developer. I am feel that the list should be call "25 greatest shmups for 20XX"
I am voting for all the games that I have play and spend quality time with. Of note I also own every game on my list. Kudos to other folks who are voting for games they are enjoy for endless times not recommeodations or what evers.
It is also make me sad that nobody care about classic console games
I am piss on for liking such games over arcade games sorry console is all I ever know sorry for being the poo poo on everyone shoes the smudge on your arcade screen 
Re: 5th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time! - Results
Didn't it rank 18 on the 2004 chart?Zach Keene wrote:OK, I'm not seeing something... Batrider doesn't appear to have ever made the top 25 before this year. (It's usually made the HM list, but those symbols are only considering the top 25 charts.)Turrican wrote:I guess it's an error, should be * * + *Code: Select all
Game Score 2005 2004 2003 "2002" [04] Armed Police Batrider (ARC) 5.89 * * * *
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