Sine Mora(Suda 51 shmup)

[Tigershark]

Deeply unhappy.

Bought the game for PC yesterday for a bargain price of £6 (with voucher) only to discover that I cannot use my ASCII pad as you can only use a xbox 360 controller. A quick Google revealed XBox360ce but I cannot get it to work with the pad.

I know this was originally a 360 title but if you're publishing it on a PC platform surely you have to take account that people will want to use their own pads!!

What bollocks.

[onRAWR]

Deeply unhappy.

Bought the game for PC yesterday for a bargain price of £6 (with voucher) only to discover that I cannot use my ASCII pad as you can only use a xbox 360 controller. A quick Google revealed XBox360ce but I cannot get it to work with the pad.

I know this was originally a 360 title but if you're publishing it on a PC platform surely you have to take account that people will want to use their own pads!!

What bollocks.

What windows are you using? Playing it on Steam? Got latest drivers for your gamepad installed? Besides it's not the Games / Game dev's fault you are using some wierd gamepad mate jk

[BazookaBen]

Bought the game for PC yesterday for a bargain price of £6 (with voucher) only to discover that I cannot use my ASCII pad as you can only use a xbox 360 controller. A quick Google revealed XBox360ce but I cannot get it to work with the pad.

Get Xpadder or JoyToKey. They map your controller to keyboard keys. I'm using Xpadder right now.

Sadly many games on PC these days aren't compatible with many controllers besides the 360 controller. Microsoft created a new program for the 360 controller, called "Xinput", whereas just about every other controller uses the oldschool "Dinput".

[Tigershark]

EDIT:

xpadder and JoyToKey did not work but managed to get xbox360ce to work.

Phew.

Game on!

Further Edit:

Okeydokey. Been playing this for about an hour I guess and I would sum up as follows:

Graphics: great
Pace: a little slow
Story: not very interesting
Worth the £6 I paid?: Absolutely
Will I be playing a lot?: Unlikely

I think in the end it's just too slow and trying to be too pretty. I'm not a bullet hell fanboy - I do like other kinds of shooters - but my initial view is that the pacing of this game isn't great which is a shame really.

[MommysBestGames]

I think in the end it's just too slow and trying to be too pretty. I'm not a bullet hell fanboy - I do like other kinds of shooters - but my initial view is that the pacing of this game isn't great which is a shame really.

For me I feel like the pacing jumps around a little too much. I do like variety but sometimes the style and feel of different bullet patterns even within a single boss attack feel conflicted and not as much fun to play against if they'd been more cohesive. I like the game for the most part but am consistently put off by little bits here and there.
That said, it's sad to see it low on the sales charts. I was looking through the top downloads on XBLA just now.. it was around 400th, getting beaten by Jewel Quest, with Boogie Bunnies nipping at its heels. Wish there were more interest. Guwange and Ikaruga were not much further up the list.

[BazookaBen]

So one of the Devs from Digital Reality added some additional options to tweak the graphics, I'll show them here, originally posted on the Steam forums.

Q: What are my options to tweak the graphics resolution/settings?
A: There are four new command line options you can use. If you're using steam, you can type these options into the "library/sine mora/properties/launch options" window. The switches are:

/forcewidth:N (forces N pixels wide internal rendering resolution)
/forceshadow:N (forces NxN pixels shadowmap, default is 1024)
/forceaniso:N (1..8, forces anisotropic filtering N, default is 2-4, depending on the surface)
/forceaa:N (2..16, forces anti aliasing quality, default is 4)

f.e.: "/forcewidth:4096 /forceshadow:4096 /forceaniso:8 /forceaa:16" - pretty much maxes out the game graphically, but feel free to experiment Removing the switches will revert back to using the in-game graphics quality settings.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/207040/di ... 847993602/

[Tigershark]

Why on earth would they not make this a front end option?

Irritating.

[BazookaBen]

Why on earth would they not make this a front end option?

Irritating.

It's becoming common for ports from console these days. Dark Souls didn't have any way to adjust resolution until a fan modded it.

I think it has a lot to do with publishers putting forth very few resources for PC ports. Devs have enough time to get it working and that's it.

I'm just stoked this runs 60fps at 1080p+ on my pentium 4 machine.

[Tokyo-J]

Sine Mora is Teh Gey but the developers did something cool.

Here are instructions to build the ships Morenstein and Soprano from the game out of legos.

http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php ... aShips.zip

[Enemy]

On different formats, doesn't Change the fact that the gameplay is still terrible.

[Dandy J]

i wont buy this game but i might buy some legos

[exquisite_torture]

The shooter for non-shooter fans and others who hate themselves.

[Friendly]

http://www.entdepot.com/2012/11/19/sine ... 3-ps-vita/

(mod edit - merged with main Sine Mora thread, deleted unnecessary reply by trap15)

[BPzeBanshee]

Excellent! A PS Vita/PS3 port with even more additional ways for the developers to royally screw you over and make you want to rip your eyeballs out!

[Kaiser]

Excellent! A PS Vita/PS3 port with even more additional ways for the developers to royally screw you over and make you want to rip your eyeballs out!

Why bother trying to revive a dead genre if you can't even do it right, why not just *beep* off and do something that you can do properly?

[Friendly]

Weirdness: Apparently the PS3/PS Vita version contains Wilhelmina Muller from Under Defeat as a bonus character.

EDIT: Image

[Udderdude]

Oh yay, you can finally play as a non-furry character I guess? >_>

[ciox]

we Under Defeat now.

[BPzeBanshee]

Um, guys, I'm pretty sure that was planned and posted for a while now about the UD guy. I hate the game too, doesn't mean I stop reading about the new ventures.

[Kollision]

It's awesome to have that UD character in the game.
Now give me a retail release and I'll play with her.

[Kobayashi]

What's the best version of Sine Mora?
PC, Xbox 360 or PS3? Or there is no difference?
I have all 3 platforms and would like to choose the best version...

[Tokyo-J]

What's the best version of Sine Mora?
PC, Xbox 360 or PS3? Or there is no difference?
I have all 3 platforms and would like to choose the best version...

No version. Get the demo first on Xbox Live to see if you dig it. I personally hate this game and wish it would just GO AWAY! It felt like I was just eating my own defecation off of a bald headed champ when I was done playing. American History X Style!

[Darkseed]

What's the best version of Sine Mora?
PC, Xbox 360 or PS3? Or there is no difference?
I have all 3 platforms and would like to choose the best version...

I have the 360, PS3, and Vita versions of this game and the Vita version is by far my favorite.
The d-pad on the vita is the best I've EVER used.
The graphics might be a little less detailed but the small screen size makes up for that. I mean the game looks stunning in Vita. The cutscenes run at 30 fps but the gameplay is a solid 60 fps at vitas native resolution.

It's also surprising to see so many other people playing it when I check the Near app which lets me know what people in my area are playing.

EDIT: Zanac x Zanac is gonna be on the us psn this week. Can't wait to play that on vita!

[Observer]

It's for $3 atm on Steam due to a sudden sale. You might wanna pick it up for PC and use Steam BPM (Big Picture Mode aka "Comfy Couch Edition") and show it off to people. It's good to show off. As a shmup, I found it leaves a lot to be desired. The collision detection is driving me mad already as some objectives require you not to get damaged at all but most sections contain at least one part that's going to fuck you over big time with collisions.

[BPzeBanshee]

What's the best version of Sine Mora?
PC, Xbox 360 or PS3? Or there is no difference?
I have all 3 platforms and would like to choose the best version...

No version. Get the demo first on Xbox Live to see if you dig it. I personally hate this game and wish it would just GO AWAY! It felt like I was just eating my own defecation off of a bald headed champ when I was done playing. American History X Style!

Yep. Couldn'tve said it better myself. If it wasn't so squashed screen/high performance/urrrggggh cutscene length/randomised/broken autofire/stupid trial lockouts it'd actually be half-decent, but alas, the devs seem to think that's where it's 'indie class' lies.

[BazookaBen]

What's the best version of Sine Mora?
PC, Xbox 360 or PS3? Or there is no difference?
I have all 3 platforms and would like to choose the best version...

Definitely the PC version, for the same reason most ports are best on the PC (this generation that is).

You can set the resolution as high as you like, and set the internal resolution even higher. Then you can add as much anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering as your PC can handle. And you can use any controller you like as well.

[Kobayashi]

Well, I got the PS3 version.

[Tokyo-J]

If they ever make a sequel they should call it "Poopon Chester"

[oboewan42]

After picking it up on sale (it's $3.39 on Steam until December 10), and playing just a bit of it, my current thoughts are:

• Is it the best shmup I've ever played? No.
  Is it the worst shmup I've ever played? Hell No.
  Am I glad I bought it? Hell Yes.
  Am I glad I paid $3.39 instead of $10 or $20 on it? Absolutely.

Maybe I should try with an analog controller instead of my stick...

[Animaitor]

You forgot the most important question.

Do you enjoy playing it? Is it fun?