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TransatlanticFoe wrote:Not shelling out on a Wii U if the NX is backwards compatible.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/21900 ... een-before
Nintendo has already said it expects to announce the NX console’s release date at next year’s E3, and that the new system will be a complete break from the Wii’s architecture.
Frankly I'm expecting that the NX:
  • will not support physical media at all
  • which would also imply that Wii U titles would only be supported via the eShop - if at all.
In my view PS4/Xbox One are already primarily gaming network/marketplace set-top boxes rather than "home consoles". The NX will likely embrace the notion of a gaming network/marketplace front-end device. This would kind of make the Wii U the last "home console". However to support the "NX device" business model Nintendo has an awful lot of work to do on the back-end and there is no point to releasing the NX or even settling on the NX supporting technologies until that back-end is all planned out and its implementation is well underway. I expect that the Nintendo's "mobile game business" is the leading edge indicator for the development of that back-end infrastructure - and the first game doesn't release until March 2016 - so it actually may be a while before all the features and services are in place to justify a dedicated "NX" device.
TransatlanticFoe wrote:But can Nintendo afford to sit for another year with a console that's technically obsolete and has no 3rd party support? It's practically dead now and with the PS360 now gone, they have to compete with Sony and Microsoft.
It isn't about a "console-war" anymore - it's a war of the "gaming service networks/marketplaces" and Nintendo has a lot of catching up to do. Pushing out a new piece of consumer hardware isn't going to cut it - so right now Nintendo can only focus on monopolizing on "Nintendo-style gaming" - even if it means entering the mobile market in the short term.
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TransatlanticFoe wrote:But can Nintendo afford to sit for another year with a console that's technically obsolete and has no 3rd party support?
People have been saying that since the N64 days.

Then they said it during the GC era.

During the Wii Era it was criticized for not being HD and no 3rd party games (well good ones at least) and it went on to outsell its rivals.

I admit the Wii U is a little half baked, the NX is probably what should have come after the Wii, but honestly, I've played a lot more of my Wii U than my PS4, you know the new Gen is always being criticized for everything being a homogenous blob of brown shooters, but the Wii U couldn't be any different. I don't know why people seem to hate it.

Nintendo just needs to update their whole internet/social media aspect of it because it feels like its 10 years behind, but from a games perspective (the reason we buy these things) it is bloody fantastic.
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The Wii U has zero 3rd party support though, far worse than anything before it. Gamecube and Wii both managed a lot, even if the Wii's dominance was due to casual shovelware and WiiFit. After a few current gen (at the time) ports there was nothing... the Wii U lineup even from Nintendo resembles the last days of the Wii - which was left to rot a full year before the Wii U arrived.

I want to like it but the price point is too high for a system with limited games and limited prospects. I just bought an xbone and 3DS and have a list as long as your arm for each system but a Wii U would be Xenoblade, Bayonetta and Mario. Probably the two CoD games for Wii Remote play because I really miss that control method.
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I wouldn't say it has zero, there are worthy ports of Assassins Creed, Mass Effect, Batman Arkham City, CoD... games that I'm not interested in personally but they are there.

I'd like to see the NX do well, but they can't burn current Wii U owners like Sega did with the Saturn.
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I suppose digitally released third party games don't count then?
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Is anyone even remotely excited about their new console? I'm not and after reading that I care even less. Their endless gimmicks are so lame and tiresome. No one want's motion controls, controllers with screens etc....

I really thought this time they just might make a regular back to the basics piece of hardware... nope.
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Strider77 wrote:Is anyone even remotely excited about their new console? I'm not and after reading that I care even less. Their endless gimmicks are so lame and tiresome. No one want's motion controls, controllers with screens etc....

I really thought this time they just might make a regular back to the basics piece of hardware... nope.

I personally would love a system that's a home console/portable hybrid. To me, not having that with the Wii U was a huge mistake, that gamepad should always have just been a 3DS that has the same console experience on the go. Of course that would also mean the death of physical media, but you couldn't reasonably do it with discs.

Nintendo should never do a traditional console like the other 2... it would never work, Nintendo's trump card has always been that it offers a different experience than the other guys.
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Strider77 wrote:Is anyone even remotely excited about their new console?
I don't think there will be another "console" - both the Wii U and the 3DS will be the end of their respective lines and the "old Nintendo" is done. "NX" is simply the NeXt strategy for Nintendo consumer hardware but the core of the company is shifting it's focus to game software and software to support the gaming business - and as they are targeting the "casual market" (people who don't "live" on Xbox live or PSN) they are developing games for the Android and iOS platforms (rather than Xbox One or PS4 system software). Nintendo's timing is a bit off for the Japanese market as the smartphone market has been stagnating and there has been a resurgence of dumb phones (garakei).

So a smartphone is all you need to partake in the new Nintendo Network and next generation of Nintendo games (and of course the inevitable ports of old ones) - and unlike with those other gaming networks the experience is ultra-portable.

Now Nintendo is quite aware that gaming on a smartphone is constrained (i.e. it often sucks) - that is where the "NX device" comes in, a "reasonably priced" gaming-optimized (e.g. physical controls) wireless smart device with some (optional) run-of-the-mill smart phone features and "NX station" integration features. It could be entirely Android based or run some nxOS/Android hybrid.

The "NX station" wouldn't be a standalone console but instead a "booster pack" for the "NX device" to enhance the "at home experience" - imagine having to own a PS Vita before you could use your PS4. The obvious feature would be the game display on the TV (with more resolution detail) with supplementary information on the "NX device" display - multiple players will require multiple "NX devices". Nintendo seems to plan to offload some of the game computations/communications to the "NX station(s)" whenever possible - probably to keep hardware costs on the "NX device" side down - though I don't see how that wouldn't compromise the portable experience.

In essence Nintendo is trying to remove the demarcation between mobile and "at home" gaming. Portable gaming is perceived as their strength so that is where they are launching from. The "Xbox Live" experience isn't portable and Sony failed to leverage the PS Vita to make "PSN" feel more portable. So Nintendo is hoping to gain market share by "unifying" the the portable and "at home" experience.

Personally I have my doubts that Nintendo will be able to motivate "casuals" to ditch their current smartphone for an "NX phone", much less acquire an "NX device" to pair with their regular smartphone AND then convince them to also buy an "NX station". So "NX" could spell the end of Nintendo hardware but Nintendo gaming software could still survive independently in the mobile space.
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Strider77 wrote:I really thought this time they just might make a regular back to the basics piece of hardware... nope.
You know I find it funny how people make so much noise and wring their hands about how gaming is getting homogenized and everything being the same as everything else, then criticize Nintendo for taking risks and saying they should do something more traditional.
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I also find it funny that the "Nintendo only has a few good exclusives" song and dance is still in effect, when now it seems that Nintendo is the only console with more then 2 decent exclusives at all.

Seriously, I'm not saying the Wii U is the best console ever, but the PS4 and Xbone are just...dang.
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I own 16 physical games for my Wii U, all of which are exclusives, plus about a dozen E-Shop games that are also exclusive or semi-exclusive.

If people need more games than that to justify a console purchase.... no wonder people aren't satisfied with what's out there right now.
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Strider77 wrote:No one want's motion controls, controllers with screens etc....
I do ;_;

Metal Gear Rising with motion-controlled Zandatsu mode plz
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Most games that were good on the Wii or Wii U didn't involved the needlessly gimmicky controllers.
Damn Tim, you know there are quite a few Americans out there who still lives in tents due to this shitty economy, and you're dropping loads on a single game which only last 20 min. Do you think it's fair? How much did you spend this time?
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Shit guys, my local Fnac is having a promotion this weekend: 270Euros for the 32G WiiU with MK8 and Splatoon. Really tempted, should i go for it? Normal price is 310Euros. :x
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I recently got a platforming itch, so I started playing Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. Fantastic game! It also greatly rewards mastery, albeit not at the level of shmups. While the normal mode has checkpoints, there are plenty of instances where you need to play without losing a character to reach a specific goal, such as secret exists that are only accessible if you have, for instance, Dixie with you, which you can only get at the start of the level. Of course, then there is hard mode, which does away with check points altogether. As a warmup for that challenge, the game confronts you with some pretty brutal secret levels (K), which don't have any checkpoints either.
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Yeah, Tropical Freeze is a pretty great game. Not too many talk about that one, but it's worth owning, for sure.
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soprano1 wrote:Shit guys, my local Fnac is having a promotion this weekend: 270Euros for the 32G WiiU with MK8 and Splatoon. Really tempted, should i go for it? Normal price is 310Euros. :x
Decided to purchase the Xenoblade Chronicles X Wii U bundle instead, since it's just 4 Euros more and has what i really want to play now.
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Anybody playing Devil's Third? i picked it up this weekend, and i hear its really hard to find it. The single player so far is just decent. Nothing special, but the multiplayer is a lot of fun. There's a lot of different weapons and equipment to use, and there is a level based system. I don't play very many 3rd or 1st person shooter games, so this is a bit new to me, but I'm enjoying it.
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Devil's Third seems to be a case of "critics" writing a game off without making the effort of learning properly how to play it, not unlike God Hand, or Vanquish (Jim Sterling/Destructoid gave it a 4/10 if I recall correctly). Impressions on forums seem pretty good, though, particularly related to the multiplayer.

I actually placed an order for this game this weekend, after watching this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMyErBVajOo
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soprano1 wrote:Shit guys, my local Fnac is having a promotion this weekend: 270Euros for the 32G WiiU with MK8 and Splatoon. Really tempted, should i go for it? Normal price is 310Euros. :x
Xbox One 1TB is now 328 euro. I would like to have the Wii U with Chronicles X, but for what you get, Wii U price point needs to drop to 220 euro maximum IMHO.
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waiwainl wrote:
soprano1 wrote:Shit guys, my local Fnac is having a promotion this weekend: 270Euros for the 32G WiiU with MK8 and Splatoon. Really tempted, should i go for it? Normal price is 310Euros. :x
Xbox One 1TB is now 328 euro. I would like to have the Wii U with Chronicles X, but for what you get, Wii U price point needs to drop to 220 euro maximum IMHO.
Read my other post after that. XBox One isn't really relevant since i don't care for it.
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waiwainl wrote:
soprano1 wrote:Shit guys, my local Fnac is having a promotion this weekend: 270Euros for the 32G WiiU with MK8 and Splatoon. Really tempted, should i go for it? Normal price is 310Euros. :x
Xbox One 1TB is now 328 euro. I would like to have the Wii U with Chronicles X, but for what you get, Wii U price point needs to drop to 220 euro maximum IMHO.
Don't be ridiculous! The Xbox 360 still sells for 250 EUR (on Amazon.de; no games included), yet you want a current-get system for less than that. 270 EUR for a Wii U with Splatoon and Mario Kart 8 is fantastic value for money; 300 EUR for a Wii U with Xenoblade Chronicles X is also a great offer, in particular considering that this bundle comes with the limited edition of that game, which is sold out otherwise, and scalpers charge 100+ EUR for on ebay.
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You are right, I made a mistake, XBOne is 329 euro here

And I do not mind to wait after X-Mas when the prices for Wii-U will drop.
Already have XenoChroniclesX LE, just need the console around it :-)
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Curious thing as well: the bundle i bought cost me 314 Euros, and today was checking out the site for the store and the price is 388 Euros. Weird, since the bundle wasn't part of that particular promotion. Oh well, good deal, right?
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Funny how 360 is the PS2 of its time 'till the end (it must be selling reasonably well for this point of the system's lifecycle).
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Is there any kind of promotion for first-time Wii U buyers? Or some kind of game discount right now?
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soprano1 wrote:Is there any kind of promotion for first-time Wii U buyers? Or some kind of game discount right now?
There was in the beginning (Digital Deluxe Promotion), but not now.
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Popped in Xenoblade Chronicles X for an hour the other day... I love me a good JRPG but I have to admit it doesn't make a good first impression, the world looks really cool, and the character creation is nice, that's for sure, but it feels.... off somehow. Something about the movement and camera controls is weird, also, there's basically no explanation of the combat system, it kind of just throws you in and expects that you've read the manual... yes I know, that's how we did it in the 80s... but it's pretty unexpected for something that seems pretty complex on a modern game.


Not saying it's crap, haven't played it enough to make a judgment, but so far it hasn't grabbed me.
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broken harbour wrote:Popped in Xenoblade Chronicles X for an hour the other day... I love me a good JRPG but I have to admit it doesn't make a good first impression, the world looks really cool, and the character creation is nice, that's for sure, but it feels.... off somehow. Something about the movement and camera controls is weird, also, there's basically no explanation of the combat system, it kind of just throws you in and expects that you've read the manual... yes I know, that's how we did it in the 80s... but it's pretty unexpected for something that seems pretty complex on a modern game.


Not saying it's crap, haven't played it enough to make a judgment, but so far it hasn't grabbed me.
Default camera settings suck, that's for sure.
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Try using a Pro Controller if you haven't yet. Xenoblade felt extremely weird to me with the tablet.
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