ah, golly, i'd be remiss to visit the forum and not drop into a thread like this for my usual gigantic posts
Blinge wrote:I'm amazed Deadly Premonition 2 came out. I also heard it's been slightly cancelled ? but not really?
Something about transphobia, I don't know, i'll get back to youze when i catch up watching someone else play it because i don't own a switch.
jesus, i am so disconnected that i didn't even hear this one was out lmao. you'd have figured i'd have heard some of the transphobia claims through the grapevine, at least, but nope, nothing. not surprised to hear there's transphobic content given what was in the original, which also had a really bumpy handling of a trans character. what the genuine hell is up with swery's fixation on trans weirdos and their connection to supernatural murder? his understanding of gender is definitely abnormal and somewhat interesting, and i find my mind leading itself to wonder if he's an egg, himself (which i realize i might need to explain - the trans community sometimes refers to peeps who seem yet to realize they might want to transition, themselves, as "eggs," referring to the notion they've yet to hatch). i am frankly kind of "here for" that type of representation, tbh - problematic handling of tranny death cult shit is usually better than the sparkles and rainbows nonsense, and, imho, is more reflective of the extreme alienation and dysphoria of the experience for many.
swery is definitely really sensitive and empathetic, he's maybe just a bit ignorant. bears mentioning he's also somewhat bent over a barrel given that he's absorbing a lot of western media, digesting it, and then trying to replicate it in a sense while also being informed by a very different culture's conception of gender identity, male chauvinism, etc. i haven't played the game so i can't say how bad it is about it, but cancelling someone as much of a sweetie pie as swery seems totally absurd. he definitely didn't mean harm, and as bumpy as the trans character in the original is, you can tell with brazen obviousness that they're not written from a place of hate. same with his fixation on rape allegory, traces of misogyny, etc. - there are unsavory elements to his media but he is trying to communicate something interesting with them. i really doubt that in the last 10 years the dude has suddenly become a shithead. the more well-meaning people we cancel the less "well-meaning" the whole progressive movement becomes, tbh.
i feel like he's a really good example of why dogmatic response to these situations is so fucking vile, and also a case of both cultural and language barrier leading to something being accidentally worse than it was intended. the entitlement people have to the works of creators - especially foreign creators - is frightening. it's also deeply comically reflective of the imperialism the types who are usually most vocal about cancelling someone ostensibly decry! americans always thinking they own everything or get to police the world applies to fucking sjw's, too lol
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regarding the she-ra thing: god *damn*. i did actually hear about this one and the situation is so patently absurd it feels like it dips into self-satire. total brain poison to read about and i'm frankly somewhat vague on the details. she-ra as a cartoon, for those who haven't seen it (presumably 99% of this forum), is a weird combination of the sunshine & rainbows progressivism i just mentioned while also having a bit of that problematic darkness in its most compelling character being "
an abuser." two of the primary themes of the central couple of the show revolve around forgiveness and loyalty, things you usually see almost villainized by peeps deep into cancel culture brain rot as problematic. i once saw a completely terminal example of this in someone tagging "CW: Forgiveness of an Abusive Character" in a story. CONTENT WARNING: FORGIVENESS. christ!!! christ fucking jesus!!! i was in a discord server and had a mod one time get angry and @ me for playfully dismissing the "abuser" character's bad behavior in an obviously non-serious way. fuck 0__0;;; i guess i was normalizing abuse! man, ain't nobody wanna hang a tranny more than another tranny. i'm never more scared than when in queer spaces lol.
the character who is forgiven for being horrible in she-ra doesn't really do much other than apologize, and her personality and behavior changes almost none whatsoever after the quote unquote "redemption." she doesn't compromise how she behaves or what she believes, she just stops fighting for the side that isn't operating in her interests after a bit of reflection on what her interests actually are. that's like... it's great. she's still authentically herself. no diatribe about her abusive behavior, no weird session where she smooths the folds of her brain to become docile, no indoctrination or invasive testing to make sure she's being honest! it's totally the opposite of what happens in steven universe, which is a show that is frankly akin to propagandist brainwashing. characters in that show radically alter themselves when they're in the wrong and it's seen like it's just this minor thing. the final villain of stevie u - someone responsible for countless births and countless deaths, someone who has existed since time immemorial - is defeated by a really banal conversation and goes from evil dictator of known space to doting silly mother afraid to hurt someone's feelings in the epilogue show. it's insane. this shit doesn't happen and the idea it could or should is both absurd and patently ridiculous to teach to children.
i'm upset to see she-ra creative staff get sunk into the shit over this. the show is definitely wince-inducing about its moralizing from time to time, even outright stupid, but its central relationship focuses on
staunch refusal to give up on people who are deemed "too far gone" and acknowledges that staying there for them will get you hurt, but is ultimately worth doing. there's so much about building bridges, respecting differences, and compromising for how your friends behave instead of scanning for culturally acknowledged faults and then ironing them out with the threat of society refusing you as the consequence for not falling in line. i would argue that she-ra, as awkward and ridiculous as it is, does genuinely argue a lot of positions that are counter-culture, whereas something like steven universe positions an alternative culture (akin to what we think of as "cancel culture") and proselytizes it almost nonstop. she-ra genuinely has an iota of belief in a thick skin, a belief that people do give and take and that ironing every corner out of yourself is not only unachievable, but undesirable.
there's definitely a lot of sjw-isms in she-ra, i'm sure noelle has said some dumb shit, and i'm not recommending the show to anyone here, but i do think it's not the best thing to take schadenfreude from given that it's not nearly as entrenched in the types of thinking you'd assume. now, if rebecca sugar were getting eaten alive for her fanbase, i'd grab the popcorn - that's a bitch who would be reaping what she's sown.
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and, then, regarding the skullgirls thing: the dude seemed to have been a huge piece of shit and caused massive workplace difficulties and ingrained himself as such an integral part of the company that there was almost no other option. if you're uninformed, a lot of the people working there have since quit in solidarity of what's going on and definitely tried to approach him reasonably for a substantial portion of time before jumping to this. this one ain't an unjust cancelling, it's just a dude getting what's coming to him at a depressing cost. positions of power and privilege do exist and some people do take advantage of them in a way that needs a little forceful dethroning.
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i guess also regarding 'it's a drawing': it's a drawing.