STGT'12 planning thread

[trap15]

Arbalester, Meta Fox 2012

[TSJ]

Gigwang Generations. Taito Type X is now emulated and that game would make for a great score attack. It's very easy to get into & super addictive, puts a lot of bullets on screen but isn't too hard to 1cc. It's probably Takumi's Cave-iest game and thus a great entry point for the newer posters here.

It can be a bit fugly but under all that it's a really great game.

[Vamos]

Gigwang Generations. Taito Type X is now emulated and that game would make for a great score attack. It's very easy to get into & super addictive, puts a lot of bullets on screen but isn't too hard to 1cc. It's probably Takumi's Cave-iest game and thus a great entry point for the newer posters here.

It can be a bit fugly but under all that it's a really great game.

Chances of enough people having pcs capable are slim , itl never happen. I could never get type x to even work for some reason .

[TSJ]

Yeah, not sure how easy it is to get Type X running, my experience of the game is all from the jp ps2 version. I'd suggest Homura as well, but that's another Type X. There's the ps2 port but that didn't make it to the US iirc.

[Ed Oscuro]

Arbalester, Meta Fox 2012

Do you really want to give me that much of an advantage?

[hwl]

GWG sucks. Why not just play Giga Wing instead? I suppose it's already been in STGT?

[Vamos]

Be nice to see last resort make an appearance .

[Hagane]

Psikyo week please.

Blade Buster was really fun so more caravans would be welcome.

[bkk]

+1 to Psikyo and caravans.

[CloudyMusic]

Silver Surfer for the NES

[1up]

Is there a list somewhere of the games that have already been played?

One of the best surprises for me in these tournaments was in STGT 06 when we played Blazing Star. I had never heard of the game before and it blew me away. Ended up picking it up for MVS when I got my NAC last year. Such a nice surprise.

edit:
searched the high score forum:
STGT 11
Varth: Operation Thunderstorm
Raiden Fighters Jet
Thunder Dragon 2
Strikers 1945 II
Battle Garegga

STGT 10
Cyvern: The Dragon Weapons
Xexex
Mars Matrix
Raiden Fighters 2
Dangun Feveron

STGT 09
Gokujyou Parodius
Daioh
1944: The Loop Masters
P-47 Aces
Blade Buster

STGT 2K7
Twin Bee Yahoo!


Omega Fighter
GigaWing

STGT 2K6
Blazing Star
Armed Police Batrider
Star Force
Dragon Blaze
Air Gallet
Guwange

TOM-STGT
Mahou Daisakisen
Rayforce
Zing Zing Zip
Andro Dunos
Rapid Hero

[Illyrian]

Prehistoric Isle II
Strikers 1999
Dimahoo/Great Mahou Daisukesen
V-V
Gradius 3

In that order.

That's what I think.

[Vamos]

prehistoric isle 2 would be kinda fun tis a tad easy though .

[Despatche]

Silver Surfer for the NES

This wouldn't even be a bad idea, just to get people to play the thing. The problem is that there's probably a lot of checkpoint and/or infinite milking.

[MX7]

Prehistoric Isle II
Strikers 1999
Dimahoo/Great Mahou Daisukesen
V-V
Gradius 3

In that order.

That's what I think.

Pretty much perfect list, nice variety of games. Personally I would swap VV for Grindstormer, but I'm guessing I'm in the minority for this one :p

[Ghegs]

Silver Surfer for the NES

This wouldn't even be a bad idea, just to get people to play the thing. The problem is that there's probably a lot of checkpoint and/or infinite milking.

You can infinite milk the game at the miniboss of the first area's (Reptyl's) first section.

[incognoscente]

Is there a list somewhere of the games that have already been played?

Yes. Please see the special events section of the high score board index.

[Deca]

Offering up Ketsui Reverse Label for consideration.

Also Joyful Road, STGT requires 100% more Joyful Road.

[RNGmaster]

Gunbird 2 hasn't been picked, just saying.

And personally I think that since Dangun Feveron was chosen 3 times (Jesus, really?) we ought to have at least some ability to choose previous games again. Say games from 5 years or more ago?

[The Coop]

And personally I think that since Dangun Feveron was chosen 3 times (Jesus, really?)...

And as far as I'm concerned, that should rule that game out of any future STG... ever.

And how about some horizontal shmup love? We've played way too few of them.

[Ed Oscuro]

Gunbird 2 hasn't been picked, just saying.

And personally I think that since Dangun Feveron was chosen 3 times (Jesus, really?) we ought to have at least some ability to choose previous games again. Say games from 5 years or more ago?

I'm only counting twice, and once was the Score Attack Mode (it's fun, everybody should try it out - and did you play in 2010?)

[Herr Schatten]

Prehistoric Isle II
Strikers 1999
Dimahoo/Great Mahou Daisukesen
V-V
Gradius 3

Awesome choices, make it happen!

Personally, I'd prefer Prehistoric Isle to its successor, and Gunbird 2 to Strikers 1999, but I guess your proposals are played less than those, so it's all good. Playing Gradius for score can be a chore, so picking Gradius 3 is a perfect choice. I hate that game anyway, so STGT can't 'ruin' it for me.

we ought to have at least some ability to choose previous games again. Say games from 5 years or more ago?

There's still a ton of interesting games which have never been played in a previous STGT, so there's no need to repeat something.

[Ed Oscuro]

PE2 probably gets played more than the original. Therefore, disregard it all and vote Sky Soldiers + Sky Adventure!

[Plasmo]

Gradius III for STGT? You guys are insane...

[mesh control]

Gradius III for STGT? You guys are insane...

Now if you want to hear bitching...


serious post: I hope we play R-Type I/II/Leo or X-Multiply.

[shadowbringer]

serious suggestions

- Mystic Square (Touhou 5)
reasons: it should run finely on the Anex86 emulator, and it would be the closest possible experience to a Windows Touhou game (barring demos). The scoring is straightforward as well (get Dream Gauge to max, collect as many point items as you can without dying or bombing, time the mid-boss and boss takedowns to cancel more bullets, graze if you can, use Mima always because she's the best character of the series, genre, universe, etc). Which mode to choose? All modes would be allowed as a suggestion (because hopefully a good run in Normal Mode could beat a not-so-good run in Lunatic, but people aiming for the top scores would have no other choice anyway) except Extra Stage. One more thing: the game over screen results says how much slowdown % the run had, it shouldn't be above 5% (fullscreen mode seems to help remove slowdown, though the emulator doesn't have a snapshot capture function; alt+enter and then alt+print screen would be used then, for the top <insert_some_number_here> scores)

- Phantasmagoria Trues (danmakufu script)
reasons: also another legal (at least more than MS or mame roms) way to have a Touhou-ish game into the tournament, though there are significant differences such as
- no hitbox collision on enemies (a la Mars Matrix or Aero Chimera

Spoiler

's demo

)
- "emphasis on grazing for cancelling bullets" mechanic
- (Takumi-esque) multiplier & r.Ed gauge mechanic
- optional stages
- (Unlimited mode only, not sure about Terminus extra stage) Varth-esque temporary invincibility upon picking up bonus point items (which come from killing enemies while you have r.Ed gauge max, iirc).
Both the script (the game) and the script interpreter are free.
Mode suggestions (for consideration), all of them would use the default 4 shot types (ReimuA, ReimuB, MarisaA, MarisaB) which come with Danmakufu (the script interpreter), the interpreter allows anyone to save replays (which include the average fps information, which shouldn't be below 55 or 57fps iirc):
- Standard (less bullet cancels, but less bullets too)
- Advanced (as an alternative to Standard)
- Unlimited (if you want to try the temporary invincibility thing I've said above)
problems: I don't know how to exactly replace the default blank sprite ;_; Also, more people may have issues with trying to get Danmakufu to work than the Anex86 emulator (for Mystic Square)

- Phantasm Romance (danmakufu script)
reasons: an alternative to Phantasmagoria Trues, it's made by the same author (Len) but made before PT; still has the cancelling mechanic (but no Hyper thing, and one cancel every 250 graze except during spellcards) but no multiplier or r.Ed gauge. It's a more straightforward game, which I'm mostly indicating because everyone should play some of its stages. (especially Ex3 and Ex4)

- X-Multiply
reasons: most people will play "for fun" (as in, not trying to milk the 1-7 or 2-7 boss), and while the game can be frustrating for those who try to milk said boss, this detail shouldn't make it a worse option than P-47 Aces (in which not only the highest scorers are encouraged to do the boss milking trick on stage 7, but less scoring players had to bump scenery and enemies whenever it was safe enough.

- ESP Ra De
reasons: boss milking makes the game way more difficult (mess up once, feel the difference at the end game bonus) for a not so rewarding score

- Twinkle Star Sprites
reasons: with enough consistency (and a Lvl 8 difficulty) the game is more about how well you can raise the rank and milk Memory (while not wasting lives on the way and trying to make good scores on the other stages if possible). There are the restarting on the first stages, but it's mostly due to the player (or just me) messing up than it is to the AI dying too fast (except for stage 1's).

- ESP Galuda
reasons: it removes Ketsui and DOJ from this year's stgt

these are my suggestions for now.

[Ed Oscuro]

Gradius III for STGT? You guys are insane...

Now if you want to hear bitching...


serious post: I hope we play R-Type I/II/Leo or X-Multiply.

Yes, please! I need some extra motivation to play the R-Types. X-Multiply ain't bad either (although I'm sure some people will get it down pat, even the crazy endboss, while others will just flail around).

[Chirpy13]

serious suggestions
- Phantasmagoria Trues (danmakufu script)
- Phantasm Romance (danmakufu script)

plz no. Danmakufu crashes on statrtup for me under jp locale, so those games would be unplayable for me and anyone else with that problem. Mystic Square or LLS would be cool, but I'd rather see it narrowed down to one mode if we do. Normal would probably make the most sense.

[DrTrouserPlank]

What's this?

Pick a game, everyone plays it and submits a score?

[FIL]

Playing R-Type for score? Seriously?