Too many shooters at once?

[stryc9]

Yeah I was thinking either Capcom or SNK.

The guy in Chaos Phoenixma's banner is Geese Howard from SNK's Fatal Fury series.

[gabe]

MAME...is never agreeable. Dangun Feveron, and Mushi don't work.

That's only partially true... MAME isn't particularly intuitive, but both of those games can be emulated in MAME.

[XoPachi]

I just tried 3 available dumps twice each for both games. I must be doing something wrong because they say "working" but then give me some bullshit about missing CHD and ROM file images or whatever. I can't find a reliable dump.

[Deca]

Make sure you have the correct rom for the build of Mame the version you're running is built on. I had to do a little digging and find a different version of feveron last time I set up Mame. As for Mushi I never got that one running myself, I've had very limited success with the SH3 stuff.

Also going to be harder to find SH3 stuff since the C&D

[XoPachi]

Welp, I just quit trying then, because I'll never figure that out. Unless there is a legit easy way to do it. But, I'm not exactly a computer person. I'm good, but not a master.

[dunpeal2064]

You are leaving the games zipped right?

I had no issues getting Feveron to run, and I am terrible with MAME.

[Deca]

Everything with Mame is pretty easy to do, it's just figuring out what needs done that can be annoying. I'm sure someone around here can help.

We should have some beginners guide to mame thread or something if it isn't a blatant violation of forum policy. I know I could stand to learn a fair amount myself.

[mesh control]

Are all of these new posters in elementary school?
WTF

[XoPachi]

Are all of these new posters in elementary school?
WTF

College actually.

You are leaving the games zipped right?

I had no issues getting Feveron to run, and I am terrible with MAME.

Yeah, They're all still zipped. It says it will work, but then it...says it won't work. 6-9

Everything with Mame is pretty easy to do, it's just figuring out what needs done that can be annoying. I'm sure someone around here can help.

We should have some beginners guide to mame thread or something if it isn't a blatant violation of forum policy. I know I could stand to learn a fair amount myself.

I'll go look around. I only gave up so easily because these are games I'm not worried about at the moment. I'm still working on the other games right now.

[Erppo]

Don't worry about avoiding Touhou, I've never touched any myself and don't plan to in the foreseeable future
...
I highly, highly, recommend checking out some [other stuff], variety is a great thing when it comes to shmups.

You really didn't see how silly this sounds?

[Ed Oscuro]

MAME -> Get new nice MAME -> get current ROMset -> enjoyment

[1up]

GUI MAME is pretty easy to work with. Commandline MAME is a little harder. Just download the newest version of MAMEUI. Go to your favorite rom site, they usually update their romsets to the newest version pretty fast. Download the PARENT ROM. I think that last part is what youre missing. If you download the a version of a game like DonPachi jpn version (donpachj) and try to run it, it will say that some roms are missing. This is because you dont have the parent rom, DonPachi us version (donpachi).

Or you can torrent a whole romset for the MAME version you have.

[DrTrouserPlank]

I think you can probably play 2 shooters at once. It might even be beneficial to stop you getting burnt out with playing one exclusively. However, constantly changing which game you are playing is probably best avoided as you are unlikely to make progress unless you stick with a single game for a decent amount of time.

[Illyrian]

I think you can probably play 2 shooters at once. It might even be beneficial to stop you getting burnt out with playing one exclusively. However, constantly changing which game you are playing is probably best avoided as you are unlikely to make progress unless you stick with a single game for a decent amount of time.

Words of wisdom from Capn. Plankyface.

For me right now it's Mushi 1.5 and Progear, just playing 1-2 really does make a difference in how much progress you notice yourself making.

[Sapz]

It's probably not the most efficient way of playing, but I tend to switch games as soon as I stop having fun/being interested in whatever I'm doing with the current game. It's not particularly going to help you master a single game (unless of course the game doesn't get very frustrating), but it'll build up general skills really fast and you're a lot less likely to burn out on a game you really like, which is an incredibly annoying thing to have happen.

[XoPachi]

I noticed a big difference in how less I bomb now in DoDonPachi. And I found a big problem...I wasn't using the Laser Biaxe. :O
I for some reason just can't beat stage 4 anymore. But, at least I set new scores for myself. Shit scores albeit and I don't know exactly how I'm doing it, but I am. My current record is 13,816,980 no miss stage 1-3 (of course, I bomb the stage 3 boss to Hell).

[Illyrian]

It's probably not the most efficient way of playing, but I tend to switch games as soon as I stop having fun/being interested in whatever I'm doing with the current game. It's not particularly going to help you master a single game (unless of course the game doesn't get very frustrating), but it'll build up general skills really fast and you're a lot less likely to burn out on a game you really like, which is an incredibly annoying thing to have happen.

Dude you're good enough to wander through whatever game you want almost. It's drastically different foe people who aren't at the same level.

[Soldato J]

I should have already 1CCed at least 2 of these the week I got them. I can't. I do play them a lot. But, I think I'm getting distracted. playing a bunch back to back.[/color]

Bro, I've been doing this for many years and not ashamed to admit still dont have a 1CC....but if you are imposing all these expectations, make sure you are at least having fun, after all that is the point. Expecting an 1CC within a week though, kinda insane you know?

[Sapz]

It's probably not the most efficient way of playing, but I tend to switch games as soon as I stop having fun/being interested in whatever I'm doing with the current game. It's not particularly going to help you master a single game (unless of course the game doesn't get very frustrating), but it'll build up general skills really fast and you're a lot less likely to burn out on a game you really like, which is an incredibly annoying thing to have happen.

Dude you're good enough to wander through whatever game you want almost. It's drastically different foe people who aren't at the same level.

I think I explained it badly. What I mean is, I did this more or less from the start, and it doesn't mean 'jump randomly between games all the time' (though it can happen); it's more like saying that if you feel yourself getting more frustrated, losing interest and being stuck in the same mindset whenever you play, you're unlikely to be able to learn things, improve, or experiment on stuff with a fresh perspective - at that point, it's time to take a break or try something else. I've tried sticking with games regardless of whether I really felt like playing them, and whether recently or back when I started, it took way longer than it should have done to achieve I thought were relatively easy for my current level, and it basically felt like wasting time to me. Some determination is necessary to really push yourself with a game of course, but if you've stopped making progress towards your goal, I figure it's best to stick it on the backburner for a while.

[Illyrian]

It's probably not the most efficient way of playing, but I tend to switch games as soon as I stop having fun/being interested in whatever I'm doing with the current game. It's not particularly going to help you master a single game (unless of course the game doesn't get very frustrating), but it'll build up general skills really fast and you're a lot less likely to burn out on a game you really like, which is an incredibly annoying thing to have happen.

Dude you're good enough to wander through whatever game you want almost. It's drastically different foe people who aren't at the same level.

I think I explained it badly. What I mean is, I did this more or less from the start, and it doesn't mean 'jump randomly between games all the time' (though it can happen); it's more like saying that if you feel yourself getting more frustrated, losing interest and being stuck in the same mindset whenever you play, you're unlikely to be able to learn things, improve, or experiment on stuff with a fresh perspective - at that point, it's time to take a break or try something else. I've tried sticking with games regardless of whether I really felt like playing them, and whether recently or back when I started, it took way longer than it should have done to achieve I thought were relatively easy for my current level, and it basically felt like wasting time to me. Some determination is necessary to really push yourself with a game of course, but if you've stopped making progress towards your goal, I figure it's best to stick it on the backburner for a while.

Makes sense!

[Deca]

I started throwing Ketsui and DDP runs between my DOJBL runs and have noticed myself performing a bit better coming in fresh off of another game.

[NTSC-J]

I know of a few other members that think that Muchi Pork is at least top 5.

It's not just my favorite Cave game, but my favorite shooter ever. I'm bewildered by it's unpopularity, both in Japan and in the West (maybe it's the squeaking?). Fantastic difficulty level (for me, at least), satisfying score system that isn't too punishing, and a fun, original atmosphere. It also features some of the greatest boss battles ever (particularly the first boss).

My one gripe would be the stupid conditions for entering the second loop which require you to not play the game as it was meant to be played. Otherwise, this pig takes the top prize.

[XoPachi]

It's not just my favorite Cave game, but my favorite shooter ever. I'm bewildered by it's unpopularity, both in Japan and in the West (maybe it's the squeaking?). Fantastic difficulty level (for me, at least), satisfying score system that isn't too punishing, and a fun, original atmosphere. It also features some of the greatest boss battles ever (particularly the first boss).

My one gripe would be the stupid conditions for entering the second loop which require you to not play the game as it was meant to be played. Otherwise, this pig takes the top prize.

What is that game even about? It looks hilarious. Isn't it about some alien pig women (hot alien pig women minus the little one) trying to lose weight or something? XD I know that's probably waaay off.

Something about those bosses have a...Ketsui look to them. If it reminds me of Ketsui, it reminds me of win.
But, personally I don't think I'll ever play a better shooter than Super Nova.

[NTSC-J]

What is that game even about? It looks hilarious. Isn't it about some alien pig women (hot alien pig women minus the little one) trying to lose weight or something? XD I know that's probably waaay off.

Something like that. I really have no idea what the story is behind any shooter, to be honest (except for Batrider after translating the back story a little while ago). If the setting and visuals are cool that's good enough for me, and BBWs on flying exercise machines with little pigs milling around is about as good as it gets.

[ChainsawGuitarSP]

But, personally I don't think I'll ever play a better shooter than Super Nova.

Oh god there's someone else besides me that truly appreciates this game...?!
I say forget about those other 1ccs and get your ass in here!

[XoPachi]

LOL! That was the first shooter and Super Nintendo game I ever beat. I have very fond memories of that game. I really do think it's the best Darius and shooter I've ever played. Everything about it was flawless. The music was wonderful with a serious tone. The bosses had gorgeous designs, there was rarely ever any slow down (an exaggerated complaint about SNES shooters). Just a damn fine video game. I will check that link right now!

[CHI]

Too many shooters at once?

Recently i had a chat with the Casino Crew about this matter... spoilt for choice
As i recall, 4 years ago Casino only had a few shmups (MMP, Mushi and Progear)... this is when i only focus on one game
But now we have DBAC, Progear, R-Type Leo, Mushi, ESPrade, Donpachi, MMP and more
Due to our group grew during the years, we thought we get a couple more games in so other players have a choice and doesn't have to wait for the only game
Now it comes to a point, half the group are sick of playing these games cos it came by so easily... As for me, i was playing 3 games at once but wasn't getting anywhere, as a matter of fact, i played worse
So concentrating on 1 or 2 shmups is good until you're done with one or both then moving on

This is just the local arcade, not even mentioning individuals shmup collections

PS: Speaking on behalf of the Casino Crew, i can say that we're pretty blessed to have Casino around and the people lending their PCB's to make this happen... i also had this conversation with some of the crew a couple months ago... i wouldn't be surprised that this time next year Casino closed down due to the economy

[cuttingagent]

...they say "working" but then give me some bullshit about missing CHD and ROM file images or whatever. I can't find a reliable dump.

It's possible that adding those missing filenames into some kind of search engine might help...

[XoPachi]

-_- First thing I tried. Nothing worked. It usually pulled up random blog or forum discussions or the same rom that gives me the error.

[cuttingagent]

Eh, it works for me quite often. The better sites will have a list of files contained in the zip, kinda like what torrent sites have. So searching for that filename is going to bring you to one of those better sites. Trust me, this is the only way I could play SF3:3S, and after giving up several times. Dangun Feveron also gave me a fair bit of trouble. Due to forum rules I can't just tell you where to go for it. I'm sure you'll figure it out if you try hard enough, and that's the funny thing about MAME. It will give you a lot of games hassle-free but there's always gonna be a game you won't get to play unless you spend a lot of time fucking with shit and trying to figure stuff out. Trying older versions of MAME is often appropriate(there's even ShmupMAME too...), so yeah, the rewards are often based on the work you put into it.

By the way, Dangun Feveron is also called Fever SOS outside of Japan. That's the version I got to work first. I only ever got the JP version to work because I preferred the title screen over that of the SOS version enough to warrant spending... no... wasting a lot of time.