STG of the Month - May/June 2012 - DonPachi!

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daliscar wrote:This thread's made me pull out the Playstation version of Donpachi which I'd never paid much attention to before.
Really enjoying it and it's refreshing to have a very straightforward scoring system with the lush CAVE presentation, like that original mode in Mushihimesama- not a lot to worry about, just shoot!
How does the Playstation port match up to the arcade?
It's a very solid port. I see no reason why scores on it shouldn't be accepted. The Saturn port may be suspect due to all of the wonky slowdown.
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As long as it's close enough to the JP arcade version, I don't really care if the PSX version is used.

This isn't some hardcore competition, guys. The point is to have some fun, get the community focused and talking about one game (and I'm sorry that it's Yet Another CAVE Game, but the Random Number Generator gods have spoken), and pushing everyone to try harder whether they're scoring 20 million or 2 million. Just do me a favor and indicate the version used if you decide to put a score up on the board. =)
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CaptainRansom wrote:As long as it's close enough to the JP arcade version, I don't really care if the PSX version is used.

This isn't some hardcore competition, guys. The point is to have some fun, get the community focused and talking about one game (and I'm sorry that it's Yet Another CAVE Game, but the Random Number Generator gods have spoken), and pushing everyone to try harder whether they're scoring 20 million or 2 million. Just do me a favor and indicate the version used if you decide to put a score up on the board. =)
I think it's a good one as far as Cave games go -- the mechanics are very simple, there's a decent variety of ship types that play pretty differently, and most importantly it prosecudtes to the fullest extent of the jam.
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Is there some way of disabling the music? I'd honestly just rather have the SFX and put on my own soundtrack, music quality is just too low for me to enjoy. As it stands I'm playing it muted. :(
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Aguraki wrote:so i just played donpachi after maybe a year of not playing it and I can´t remember anything,chains,bees,etc...
Is this normal or do I have serious memory problems :(
Same here, but that memories come back quite quickly.
Wasn't Donpachi one of your first 1-Alls, too? :>
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CaptainRansom wrote:As long as it's close enough to the JP arcade version, I don't really care if the PSX version is used.

This isn't some hardcore competition, guys. The point is to have some fun, get the community focused and talking about one game (and I'm sorry that it's Yet Another CAVE Game, but the Random Number Generator gods have spoken), and pushing everyone to try harder whether they're scoring 20 million or 2 million. Just do me a favor and indicate the version used if you decide to put a score up on the board. =)
Can I just throw something out there for people to consider too?

Not only is it not a competition, but based on the thread shmuppy referenced when he came up with the suggestion for STG of the month, I don't believe any voting for games was involved either. For me that sort of defeats the purpose!

I think forum members should take turns to produce the next months STG. No-one else has any say in it: that way it's always a surprise and always fun, whether you love it or hate it. It would also help to have people discover titles they've never heard of before. You could always use a random selector or something if you want to pick the guy responsible for choosing the next STG.

Just my 2-bits, but that's kind of where I expected it to go, and I think it would be more fun to have a random element than risk everyone voting in Cave games each month.
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i'd say it's a competition. it's not CASH AND PRIZES, it's just stgt monthly.

good choice btw, donpachi > dimahoo.

we need this to be preliminaries for donpachi in stgt 2012. this game needs to be learned and documented.
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Skykid wrote:
CaptainRansom wrote:As long as it's close enough to the JP arcade version, I don't really care if the PSX version is used.

This isn't some hardcore competition, guys. The point is to have some fun, get the community focused and talking about one game (and I'm sorry that it's Yet Another CAVE Game, but the Random Number Generator gods have spoken), and pushing everyone to try harder whether they're scoring 20 million or 2 million. Just do me a favor and indicate the version used if you decide to put a score up on the board. =)
Can I just throw something out there for people to consider too?

Not only is it not a competition, but based on the thread shmuppy referenced when he came up with the suggestion for STG of the month, I don't believe any voting for games was involved either. For me that sort of defeats the purpose!

I think forum members should take turns to produce the next months STG. No-one else has any say in it: that way it's always a surprise and always fun, whether you love it or hate it. It would also help to have people discover titles they've never heard of before. You could always use a random selector or something if you want to pick the guy responsible for choosing the next STG.

Just my 2-bits, but that's kind of where I expected it to go, and I think it would be more fun to have a random element than risk everyone voting in Cave games each month.
I think if it had gone with voting, there is a chance Dimahoo might have won :)

I agree it would be fun to have games right out of nowhere each month. I think Donpachi is a good first choice though.
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I'll just make it so we don't have the same developer twice in a row. Good enough? I mean, yeah, this forum is overflowing with CAVE, but really... how often do people actually play or even talk about DonPachi? It was a randomly selected game. I do nothing but talk about how much I fucking hate chaining and loops... you think I'm happy about this? Not particularly, but I'm making the best of it and at least trying my best. =)

It's my first time trying to organize an event and I think it's going well so far. I'm obviously not going to make everyone happy, but I'd like to think people are enjoying participating so far. If someone wants to do a better job of it, then by all means, do it.
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I think random selection is a good way to go. We definitely shouldn't do voting; that's just begging for predictable choices. With random selection there's an equal chance for the popular ones and the less popular ones, and even doujin shooters that a lot of people probably wouldn't otherwise bother with.
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CaptainRansom wrote:I'll just make it so we don't have the same developer twice in a row. Good enough? I mean, yeah, this forum is overflowing with CAVE, but really... how often do people actually play or even talk about DonPachi? It was a randomly selected game. I do nothing but talk about how much I fucking hate chaining and loops... you think I'm happy about this? Not particularly, but I'm making the best of it and at least trying my best. =)

It's my first time trying to organize an event and I think it's going well so far. I'm obviously not going to make everyone happy, but I'd like to think people are enjoying participating so far. If someone wants to do a better job of it, then by all means, do it.
No you've done fine, it's just I'm semi-aware of the thread Shmuppy was referencing for the idea. The games aren't voted for, just randomly offered by members. So instead of voting and picking at random, you could randomly pick the forum member responsible for bestowing the next game on everyone. This would lead to pretty dynamic (and probably quite amusing) choices each month based on people's individual preferences. It's also way less work for you to maintain on your own and the responsibility is shared qually amongst all of us.

Very community driven. :wink:
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Skykid wrote:So instead of voting and picking at random, you could randomly pick the forum member responsible for bestowing the next game on everyone.
This idea is even better do this
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Skykid wrote:So instead of voting and picking at random, you could randomly pick the forum member responsible for bestowing the next game on everyone.
I like this idea. The chosen forum member can then come up with how to select the game as well: picked at random from nominations, personal choice, voting, etc. :idea:
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hwl wrote: Same here, but that memories come back quite quickly.
Wasn't Donpachi one of your first 1-Alls, too? :>
only 1 all ahah yes im so bad lol.
its a shame to forgot so much I can´t believe it.
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my 2c is that voting allows ppl to suggest is that is a good way of finding out what ppl do and don't like so more ppl will take part. Maybe the system could be revised once we have got the ball rolling? Although i'm cool with just about anything tbh

I think DP is a good choice for getting everybody involved
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trap15 wrote:
Skykid wrote:So instead of voting and picking at random, you could randomly pick the forum member responsible for bestowing the next game on everyone.
I like this idea. The chosen forum member can then come up with how to select the game as well: picked at random from nominations, personal choice, voting, etc. :idea:
Another supporting voice here for this idea :)

But, like most here... i m OK with most shmups, and anyway if one really gets on my nerves i ll drop from the month.
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BarfHappy wrote:
trap15 wrote:
Skykid wrote:So instead of voting and picking at random, you could randomly pick the forum member responsible for bestowing the next game on everyone.
I like this idea. The chosen forum member can then come up with how to select the game as well: picked at random from nominations, personal choice, voting, etc. :idea:
Another supporting voice here for this idea :)
If Capt. Ransom wants help with this format I'm more than happy to get on board. We'll just PM the lucky individual and be like "You're up for STG of the month, you have a week to choose something and let everyone know!" :D
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It's fine. I'll take care of it for July (it won't exactly be hard to get a list of members interested in making the selections and then randomizing them). My concern is that it'll go from "Man, the game I wanted didn't get selected!" to "Man, I didn't get picked AND the game I wanted didn't get selected!" I mean, some people are irritated now because a Cave game was randomly selected. What happens when the random person who selects the game decides they want Ketsui to be the game of the month? Suddenly everyone's okay with that?
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Never PM me despite my username. You know what I'll select.
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CaptainRansom wrote:It's fine. I'll take care of it for July (it won't exactly be hard to get a list of members interested in making the selections and then randomizing them). My concern is that it'll go from "Man, the game I wanted didn't get selected!" to "Man, I didn't get picked AND the game I wanted didn't get selected!" I mean, some people are irritated now because a Cave game was randomly selected. What happens when the random person who selects the game decides they want Ketsui to be the game of the month? Suddenly everyone's okay with that?
Someone's gonna be pissed no matter what gets chosen. These people are obviously too fat for the STG of the month thing. :V
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Just me 2 cents, but I like the idea of just choosing the games randomly. Part of the fun is that nobody has any real control over what happens with the STG of the month. It could be a shit game or we could find a hidden masterpiece.
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J_Taishu wrote:Just me 2 cents, but I like the idea of just choosing the games randomly. Part of the fun is that nobody has any real control over what happens with the STG of the month. It could be a shit game or we could find a hidden masterpiece.
This. I'm fine either way but a random system is simpler and there won't be any troll picks etc.
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CaptainRansom wrote:I mean, some people are irritated now because a Cave game was randomly selected. What happens when the random person who selects the game decides they want Ketsui to be the game of the month? Suddenly everyone's okay with that?
It's your call mate, your thread.

It's just an idea on how I thought it would be more fun (and less time consuming) than voting, and it's easy opt in/out: if someone doesn't like a forum member's chosen game there's no obligation to play - but it's getting to try it out that's important.

Folks throwing obscure games like R-Shark or Nostradamus out there would make for amusing community feedback. With voting you risk having very well-known/similar stuff cropping up all the time as there's only 12 months in the year.

It's kind of a personality game too: the choices will reflect the tastes of the member, which could be quite interesting. :wink:
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I'm all for people choosing the game of the month, voting takes too long to be worthwhile (and to get enough votes for the poll to be legit) and random I don't think would work as some games may be overlooked and not included in the list.
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I'm going to use a random game selection method every month that way everyone wins, lol. Next month a randomly selected member will be chosen. For August, perhaps I will have manatees select the game (I do live in Florida, after all).

Skykid, I wasn't and I'm not angry or anything about this. I'm not saying it wasn't a good idea. I'm just saying it has its flaws just like pretty much EVERY idea is going to since it's impossible to make everyone happy.

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Maybe every month could have a different theme, that way there would be less chance of the same games cropping up over and over again
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Oh, I'm definitely sticking to what I said about not having the same developer two months in a row. That's for sure. Cave is banned for July, lol. I'm not really worrying about it right now. There's still over a month on this one. More people need to go play DonPachi. XD
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How's this for an idea then.

Since people will want there to be a good deal of variety, every month can alternate between big-name arcade developers and doujin shmups. This would necessarily make it so that at least six months out of the year are not Cave titles, and the anti-Cave brigade would have less to bitch about. :V

Also, this might encourage people to play some ridiculously badass doujin shmups that they might not otherwise have tried.
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CaptainRansom wrote: Skykid, I wasn't and I'm not angry or anything about this.
Not at all dude, didn't think you were. I actually only realised tonight that you're even doing HS threads each month for this too - impressive! Quite a lot of work tbh, I thought it would just be a case of "we're all playing this now" each month, shooting the shit, and then contributing scores to whichever boards are already open.

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Is their any particular start/end dates or is it just casual as fuck?
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