Ketsui Arrange

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:10 pm

Would be interesting to know what was changed between revisions 2 and 3...

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:18 am

I've tried my absolute hardest, but it unfortunately seems that I will have to disable 2nd player again. Testing as the second player caused several glitches that crashed the game, and I could not figure out what was the cause of the issue.

BPzeBanshee · Post by **BPzeBanshee** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:11 am

Interesting that you say that trap15. I wonder if this is the same reason why most of Cave's Arrange modes are 1-player only?

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:17 am

Unlikely; my reason is probably because I changed something that I shouldn't have. Such an issue wouldn't occur if they had the source code, because they wouldn't be patching willy-nilly.

O. Van Bruce · Post by **O. Van Bruce** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:20 am

So are you already editing? Which ideas are you using?

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:43 am

Yes, editing began about a week ago. I've been working a bit less intensely on this than I did with DDPA (mostly because I'm generally unfamiliar with Ketsui's mechanics and stage design), but it's progressing nicely.

As far as ideas I've been using, I have so far used mostly my own ideas. The ideas in here, while mostly good, aren't really what I'm looking to do with my arrange, so I've been coming up with ideas as I go, I guess. I'm also not going to be releasing my ideas that are being implemented until release, so you just have to wait and see!

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:54 am

Glad to hear something's coming. Is the plan still for this to work on a real PCB?

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:07 pm

Yes, I will definitely try to make sure it works on a real PCB. I'm not so sure how likely it'll be for me to add a switch in the test menu for it, but I'll certainly try.

Also, a teaser image:

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:16 pm

Awesome! I really hope you make it worth your while.

yosai · Post by **yosai** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:17 pm

Looking forward to this if it's playable on a PCB.

O. Van Bruce · Post by **O. Van Bruce** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:29 am

About the glitch that makes 2nd player easier to play on ketsui.

It also happens when on shmupmame v3.0b you start recording an imput record even if you are the first player.

Vamos · Post by **Vamos** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:23 am

trap15 wrote:

So much anticipation , cant wait !

monouchi · Post by **monouchi** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:29 am

Vamos wrote:
trap15 wrote:
So much anticipation , cant wait !

Yes, really cool.

I just hope for a game-switch....such a hassle to change ROM on the pcb.

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:35 pm

O. Van Bruce wrote:About the glitch that makes 2nd player easier to play on ketsui.

It also happens when on shmupmame v3.0b you start recording an imput record even if you are the first player.

No it doesn't

It only happens when you play 2nd player.

O. Van Bruce · Post by **O. Van Bruce** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:57 am

trap15 wrote:
O. Van Bruce wrote:About the glitch that makes 2nd player easier to play on ketsui.

It also happens when on shmupmame v3.0b you start recording an imput record even if you are the first player.
No it doesn't

It only happens when you play 2nd player.

It may be a whole new bug then...

When I start the game with the above said emulator recording the imput, the game is made easier in some parts. The way to know if the bug will happen is on the main screen: Rank and scores for extends aren't shown.

I'll record a video when I can.

Edit: Tried doing a record imput on mameplus ash build and there was no problem... the bug only happens on shmupmame v3.0b. Can you try to fix that?

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:46 pm

It sounds like it's clearing your NVRAM to all 0, which is wrong (and sets the difficulty to Easy). You need to go into the test menu and reset the NVRAM whenever you play, it seems.

I can't do anything about it, but I'll let nimitz know.

Van_Artic · Post by **Van_Artic** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:19 pm

can we have a novice mode too please? ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:07 pm

Just set the difficulty to easy

ケツイ · Post by **ケツイ** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:44 pm

Van_Artic wrote:can we have a novice mode too please? ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼

Zac! Capo devi rullare a Normal altro che Novice

@Trap
Can't wait to see your arrange in action

Post by **Dave_K.** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:09 pm

O. Van Bruce wrote: It may be a whole new bug then...

When I start the game with the above said emulator recording the imput, the game is made easier in some parts. The way to know if the bug will happen is on the main screen: Rank and scores for extends aren't shown.

I'll record a video when I can.

Edit: Tried doing a record imput on mameplus ash build and there was no problem... the bug only happens on shmupmame v3.0b. Can you try to fix that?

trap15 wrote:It sounds like it's clearing your NVRAM to all 0, which is wrong (and sets the difficulty to Easy). You need to go into the test menu and reset the NVRAM whenever you play, it seems.

I can't do anything about it, but I'll let nimitz know.

I wonder how many Ketsui highscores are now invalid!

Hurray for emulation!

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:22 pm

Well, at least Jaimers's is fine...

omgdmp · Post by **omgdmp** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:17 am

Shameless bump.
Wondering how far until you are done with this. Pretty excited for your release.

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:06 pm

I'm actually really really close to a release. I'm just putting the final touches mostly, then I'm going to release it to a small group for final testing.

Thanks for all the support, and I hope you will enjoy!

EDIT: To those hoping for a switch in the service menu, that's unfortunately not going to happen. My changes are too extensive, and free ROM space is too small. You're going to have to buy a spare EPROM (I'll look up what kind and put it on the release page when I'm done) and burn it to that, then you can just swap the EPROMs. Sorry about that!

yosai · Post by **yosai** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:43 am

Good stuff, can't wait.

The EPROM required is a 27C160.

O. Van Bruce · Post by **O. Van Bruce** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:15 am

Waiting warmly.

I'm very curious about how you reworked the scoring system since you hate point blanking

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:18 pm

+1 on the anticipation!

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:44 pm

yosai wrote:Good stuff, can't wait.

The EPROM required is a 27C160.

Yeah, I checked yesterday and put it on my in-progress release page.

O. Van Bruce wrote:Waiting warmly.

I'm very curious about how you reworked the scoring system since you hate point blanking

I actually changed my mind about point blanking after I changed a few other mechanics; the reason I hated it before was for a reason other than the point blanking itself.

The scoring system still does have a relatively large change though, and I think most people will like it.

emphatic wrote:+1 on the anticipation!

Thanks! Release is going to be very very soon I believe!

Vamos · Post by **Vamos** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:50 pm

Any chance of a visible hitbox?

trap15 · Post by **trap15** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:19 am

Nope

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:40 am

trap15 wrote:The scoring system still does have a relatively large change though, and I think most people will like it.

You bet! Gonna get this on an EPROM for sure.

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