Yeah, but sounds a lot better when you say 'mise en scene' instead of 'neat'.Rob wrote:Drum only likes games that seem neat/quirky on one MAME credit.Drum wrote::'(
9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
IGMO - Poorly emulated, never beaten.
Hi-score thread: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34327
Hi-score thread: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34327
Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Great to see Gunbird 2 in the list, it really is a timeless shmup. No matter how much I'll burn out on CAVE stuff, this always feels new to me.
Just TATEd an 80cm CRT for the 240p scanline goodness that can't be beat.
A shame Psyvariar 2 is gone from the HM. I'm just starting to learn this properly and it's one wild little shooter
Crimzon Clover was a predictable new entry in the HM.
My only real niggles would be that DeathSmiles should not even be in the Top 25 - it should swap places with the original Mushi (even the PS2 version) which for some strange reason is languishing in the Honourable Mentions.
DS is a good shooter, but it's not a fantastically great one in my opinion, even on Rank 3 playthroughs.
Just TATEd an 80cm CRT for the 240p scanline goodness that can't be beat.
A shame Psyvariar 2 is gone from the HM. I'm just starting to learn this properly and it's one wild little shooter
Crimzon Clover was a predictable new entry in the HM.
My only real niggles would be that DeathSmiles should not even be in the Top 25 - it should swap places with the original Mushi (even the PS2 version) which for some strange reason is languishing in the Honourable Mentions.
DS is a good shooter, but it's not a fantastically great one in my opinion, even on Rank 3 playthroughs.
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
I tried to list titles and platforms in order of vote weight. If a variant isn't listed, it probably didn't receive any votes (at least not explicitly). Some ballots said "All arcade," so I added the arcade tag to a few titles that otherwise wouldn't have displayed it in these results. I can't claim that I was particularly consistent in this effort, though.
(My tabulation program doesn't connect to a database of known titles and ports, so missing tags must be manually keyed in from memory or research. Given that these results posts already require a decent amount of sanitization to be presentable, I can't justify the time it would take to do this across the board.)
The columns of numbers below show a game's Final Score (out of 10), voter count, and weighted score.
Some bonus stats:
I feel like I'm forgetting something important, but maybe I'm just tired.
(My tabulation program doesn't connect to a database of known titles and ports, so missing tags must be manually keyed in from memory or research. Given that these results posts already require a decent amount of sanitization to be presentable, I can't justify the time it would take to do this across the board.)
The columns of numbers below show a game's Final Score (out of 10), voter count, and weighted score.
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Top 25:
001. Battle Garegga (ARC/SAT) : 6.767677 51 3.291248
002. Armed Police Batrider (ARC) : 6.082875 47 2.881052
003. DoDonPachi daioujou Black/White (ARC/PS2/360) : 5.859506 51 2.394543
004. Ketsui kizuna jigoku tachi (ARC/360) : 5.618122 50 2.222696
005. Dodonpachi (ARC) : 5.567759 49 2.239459
006. EspGaluda (ARC/PS2) : 4.175756 39 1.529929
007. Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 (ARC/360) : 4.038501 33 1.793346
008. Ikaruga (ARC/DC/GC) : 3.803312 33 1.561128
009. Raiden Fighters Jet (ARC) : 3.716308 35 1.342243
010. Muchi Muchi Pork! (ARC/360) : 3.471638 26 1.699070
011. Deathsmiles (ARC/360) : 3.400816 29 1.429673
012. Gunbird 2 (ARC/DC) : 3.346740 31 1.243299
013. Raiden DX (ARC/PS1) : 3.267630 27 1.431148
014. Gradius 5 (PS2) : 3.111959 28 1.210953
015. EspGaluda II (ARC/360) : 3.049316 29 1.082610
016. Dragon Blaze (ARC/PS2) : 3.026629 28 1.126700
017. Batsugun/Batsugun Special Version : 2.929668 29 0.964474
018. Strikers 1945 II (ARC/PS2) : 2.885607 28 0.987459
019. R-Type (ARC/PCE) : 2.843171 26 1.078538
020. Mushihimesama Futari Black Label (ARC/360) : 2.815741 23 1.250924
021. Mars Matrix: Hyper Solid Shooting (ARC) : 2.767322 24 1.136626
022. Guwange (ARC/360) : 2.733949 27 0.904204
023. Darius Gaiden (ARC/SAT/PS1) : 2.725009 27 0.895378
024. Ibara : 2.593450 23 1.031439
025. Giga Wing (ARC/DC) : 2.592028 24 0.963545
Honorable Mention:
026. Radiant Silvergun (SAT/ARC) : 2.511981 23 0.950999
027. Soukyugurentai (SAT/ARC) : 2.449061 23 0.888874
028. Pink Sweets (ARC/360) : 2.418212 21 0.991394
029. Rayforce/Layer Section/Galactic Attack (ARC/PS2/SAT): 2.393129 22 0.900137
030. Gradius Gaiden (PS1) : 2.258107 20 0.899800
031. Under Defeat (DC/ARC) : 2.160946 20 0.803865
032. Mushihimesama : 2.152737 19 0.862250
033. Donpachi (SAT/ARC) : 2.145594 19 0.855197
034. Crimzon Clover (PC) : 2.128666 19 0.838483
035. Dangun Feveron (ARC) : 2.126649 21 0.703512
036. Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label (360/ARC) : 2.121805 18 0.898198
037. G-Darius (PS2/ARC) : 2.115107 19 0.825095
038. Battle Bakraid: Unlimited Version (ARC) : 2.111683 19 0.821714
039. ESP ra.de. (ARC) : 2.091142 19 0.801433
040. Progear No Arashi (ARC) : 2.079237 20 0.723189
041. Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu/Resurrection (ARC/360/iOS) : 2.002821 17 0.847207
042. Blazing Star (NG/ARC) : 1.968593 18 0.746920
043. Gradius (ARC/NES) : 1.852591 18 0.632383
044. Raiden Fighters 2 (360/ARC) : 1.845004 17 0.691382
045. Strikers 1999/Strikers 1945 III (ARC) : 1.624465 15 0.606607
046. Shikigami no Shiro II/Castle Shikigami 2 : 1.606154 16 0.522038
047. Cho Ren Sha 68K (PC) : 1.596231 17 0.445750
048. Thunderforce III (MD/GEN) : 1.439436 13 0.556895
049. Thunder Force IV (MD/GEN) : 1.418462 13 0.536185
050. Raiden IV (ARC/360) : 1.415226 13 0.532990
051. R-Type Delta (PS1) : 1.413455 13 0.531241
052. Gokujou Parodius (SAT/SFC/ARC) : 1.407012 13 0.524879
053. Einhänder : 1.399753 14 0.451222
054. Zero Gunner 2 (DC/ARC) : 1.388100 13 0.506206
055. Perfect Cherry Blossom : 1.371170 13 0.489490
056. Dimahoo/Great Mahou Daisakusen : 1.353361 13 0.471906
057. Imperishable Night (PC) : 1.311170 12 0.496737
058. Gradius II: Gofer no Yabou (ARC/SAT/FC) : 1.311115 12 0.496683
The Rest:
059. Twin Cobra/Kyukyoku Tiger (ARC) : 1.275671 12 0.461687
060. Psyvariar 2 (ARC/PS2/DC) : 1.271379 13 0.390959
061. Border Down (DC/ARC) : 1.270786 11 0.523353
062. Deathsmiles II/IIX : 1.253634 11 0.506417
063. Twinkle Star Sprites : 1.246980 11 0.499848
064. Varth: Operation Thunderstorm (ARC) : 1.225451 13 0.345611
065. Akai Katana/Akai Katana Shin (ARC/360) : 1.215335 12 0.402112
066. Cyvern: The Dragon Weapons : 1.213261 12 0.400064
067. Raiden (ARC) : 1.210185 12 0.397027
068. MUSHA Aleste : 1.187897 12 0.375021
069. Thunderforce V (SAT) : 1.065405 10 0.387055
070. Mahou Daisakusen (ARC) : 0.998047 10 0.320548
071. Summer Carnival 92: Recca (NES) : 0.994744 09 0.383776
072. Sexy Parodius (SAT) : 0.985336 10 0.307997
073. Soldier Blade (PCE) : 0.979521 09 0.368745
074. Zanac Neo : 0.976869 10 0.299637
075. Undefined Fantastic Object : 0.973975 08 0.429759
076. Galaga (ARC/7800) : 0.927842 08 0.384209
077. Super Aleste/Space Megaforce (SNES) : 0.917186 09 0.307198
078. Hellsinker (PC) : 0.904100 07 0.427256
079. Triggerheart Exelica : 0.901919 08 0.358612
080. Strikers 1945 (ARC/SAT) : 0.900826 10 0.224554
081. Same!Same!Same!/Fire Shark (MD/GEN/ARC) : 0.889378 09 0.279740
082. Raiden III (PC/PS2) : 0.881642 08 0.338591
083. Judgement Silversword/Rebirth Edition (WSC) : 0.860172 08 0.317393
084. Shikigami no Shiro III/Castle of Shikigami III : 0.855467 09 0.246258
085. Giga Wing 2 : 0.854415 09 0.245219
086. Sengoku Blade : 0.849203 07 0.373052
087. Lords of Thunder/Winds of Thunder (PCECD) : 0.839371 08 0.296855
088. Psyvariar Revision/Medium Unit : 0.834441 08 0.291987
089. Mountain of Faith : 0.828129 07 0.352244
090. Pulstar (ARC/NG) : 0.811195 08 0.269034
091. R-Type Leo (ARC) : 0.806819 08 0.264713
092. Gradius III (SNES) : 0.780375 07 0.305094
093. Gunhed/Blazing Lazers (PCE) : 0.767426 07 0.292308
094. Seisou Kouki Strania (XBLA) : 0.759027 08 0.217525
095. Raiden II (ARC) : 0.756128 07 0.281152
096. Last Resort (NG/ARC) : 0.754462 08 0.213017
097. Radirgy/Radio Allergy/Radilgy (DC/PS2/ARC) : 0.744074 08 0.202761
098. Twinbee Yahho! (SAT/ARC) : 0.730272 07 0.255623
099. Gate of Thunder (PCECD) : 0.699878 07 0.225612
100. Shippu Mahou Daisakusen/Kingdom Grandprix : 0.698556 06 0.290797
101. Viper Phase 1/New Version (ARC) : 0.680070 06 0.272544
102. 1942 (ARC) : 0.669114 06 0.261726
103. In The Hunt : 0.664603 07 0.190783
104. 19xx: The War against Destiny (ARC) : 0.643740 06 0.236673
105. X-Multiply : 0.636137 07 0.162676
106. Eden's Aegis : 0.633534 06 0.226596
107. Espgaluda II Black Label (360/ARC) : 0.625393 05 0.285048
108. Robotron 2084 (ARC) : 0.616052 06 0.209334
109. Xexex : 0.610845 06 0.204194
110. R-Type Final (PS2) : 0.600558 06 0.194036
111. R-Type III: the Third Lightning (SNES) : 0.599040 06 0.192538
112. Mystic Square (PC98) : 0.590104 06 0.183715
113. Trouble Witches Neo!/Trouble Witches AC : 0.580422 06 0.174154
114. Xevious (ARC) : 0.576086 05 0.236363
115. Tatsujin/Truxton (ARC) : 0.572484 06 0.166317
116. Fantasy Zone (ARC) : 0.569453 06 0.163324
117. Vasara 2 : 0.568310 06 0.162196
118. Axelay (SNES) : 0.560997 05 0.221465
119. Zanac (NES) : 0.559585 06 0.153581
120. 1944: The Loop Master (ARC) : 0.557167 05 0.217683
121. Kamui (PC) : 0.554102 05 0.214657
122. Trizeal (DC) : 0.553044 05 0.213612
123. Galaga 88 (PCE) : 0.552222 05 0.212801
124. Blue Wish Resurrection (PC) : 0.548607 05 0.209231
125. Flying Shark/Hishozame (ARC) : 0.547130 05 0.207773
126. Senko no Ronde Rev.X/Senko no Ronde : 0.547033 04 0.274167
127. Lifeforce/Salamander (NES/FC) : 0.537512 06 0.131787
128. Gun.Smoke : 0.533437 06 0.127763
129. Viewpoint (ARC/NG) : 0.532387 05 0.193216
130. Image Fight (ARC/NES) : 0.517606 05 0.178622
131. Raycrisis (ARC/PC) : 0.515532 05 0.176573
132. Salamander 2 : 0.514801 05 0.175852
133. Raystorm/HD (ARC/XBLA/PS1) : 0.514027 05 0.175087
134. Geometry Wars 2 : 0.506813 05 0.167965
135. Eschatos (360) : 0.502611 05 0.163816
136. Deathsmiles Mega Black Label : 0.502127 05 0.163338
137. Ketsui Death Label (NDS) : 0.500870 05 0.162097
138. Metal Black (ARC) : 0.500285 05 0.161519
139. Gunbird : 0.482753 05 0.144208
140. Sonic Wings/Aero Fighters : 0.462159 05 0.123875
141. Apidya : 0.457056 04 0.185326
142. Flame Zapper Kotsujin (PC98) : 0.452755 04 0.181080
143. Raiden Fighters (ARC) : 0.444710 04 0.173136
144. Granada (MD) : 0.443601 04 0.172041
145. Aero Fighters 2/Sonic Wings 2 (ARC/NG) : 0.433743 04 0.162308
146. Subterranean Animism (PC) : 0.431849 04 0.160437
147. Gradius III (ARC/PS2) : 0.421019 04 0.149744
148. Forgotten Worlds (ARC) : 0.419278 05 0.081535
149. Tatsujin Oh/Truxton II : 0.419269 04 0.148016
150. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil : 0.416592 04 0.145373
151. Out Zone : 0.410066 04 0.138929
152. Hyper Duel (SAT/ARC) : 0.408075 05 0.070474
153. Salamander (JPN ARC)/LifeForce (non-JPN ARC) : 0.398743 04 0.127749
154. Parodius Da! (ARC/SAT) : 0.396442 04 0.125477
155. V-V/V-Five : 0.394173 03 0.189726
156. Ibara Black Label/Ibara Kuro : 0.392595 04 0.121679
157. Fantasy Zone II: the Tears of Opa-Opa (System 16C) : 0.388255 04 0.117394
158. RefleX (PC) : 0.383839 04 0.113033
159. Terra Cresta : 0.379646 04 0.108893
160. Gleylancer (MD/GEN) : 0.378516 04 0.107778
161. Homura : 0.378510 03 0.174261
162. Parsec47 (PC) : 0.360650 03 0.156627
163. Cotton Boomerang : 0.360450 04 0.089940
164. Patriot Dark (PC) : 0.360357 04 0.089848
165. Darius II (ARC/SAT) : 0.358667 04 0.088179
166. Karous (DC) : 0.357497 03 0.153514
167. Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta! : 0.349213 04 0.078845
168. Cardinal Sins: Judgement Silversword Recycle Edition: 0.348110 03 0.144246
169. 1941: Counter-Attack (ARC/PS2) : 0.348110 04 0.077755
170. Diadra Empty (PC) : 0.343031 03 0.139231
171. Gradius Rebirth (Wii) : 0.339136 03 0.135385
172. Dogyuun : 0.333531 04 0.063360
173. R-Type II : 0.333373 03 0.129695
174. Bio-Hazard Battle : 0.327291 03 0.123689
175. Thunder Force II (MD/GEN) : 0.326325 03 0.122735
176. Fast Striker (DC) : 0.314701 03 0.111258
177. Harmful Park (PS1) : 0.314675 03 0.111232
178. Space Giraffe : 0.306037 03 0.102703
179. Space Bomber (ARC) : 0.304857 03 0.101538
180. 1943 (ARC) : 0.303210 03 0.099912
181. Shoot the Bullet : 0.303200 03 0.099902
182. Power Strike II (SMS) : 0.298743 03 0.095502
183. Star Force (ARC/NES) : 0.298625 03 0.095385
184. Slap Fight (ARC/MD) : 0.289276 03 0.086154
185. Daioh : 0.283876 03 0.080822
186. Exed Exes (ARC) : 0.281145 02 0.144615
187. Vasara : 0.280623 03 0.077611
188. Sengoku Ace (PS2/ARC) : 0.280619 03 0.077607
189. Bangai-O! (DC) : 0.280033 03 0.077028
190. Space Invaders : 0.279462 03 0.076464
191. Giga Wing Generations : 0.277391 02 0.140909
192. Gynoug/Wings Of Wor (GEN/MD) : 0.276811 03 0.073846
193. Aero Fighters 3/Sonic Wings 3 (ARC) : 0.274473 03 0.071538
194. Side Arms Hyper Dyne : 0.269607 03 0.066733
195. Millipede (NES/ARC) : 0.262294 03 0.059513
196. Air Gallet : 0.260987 03 0.058222
197. Shikigami no Shiro : 0.256349 02 0.120133
198. Gundeadligne : 0.253291 02 0.117113
199. Nexzr (TG16) : 0.253271 02 0.117094
200. Gradius IV (ARC/PS2) : 0.252060 02 0.115897
201. Gun-Nac (NES) : 0.251959 03 0.049308
202. Super Star Soldier : 0.246866 02 0.110769
203. Galaxian (ARC) : 0.240633 02 0.104615
204. Blue Wish Resurrection Plus : 0.239687 02 0.103681
205. Phantasmagoria of Flower View : 0.239582 02 0.103577
206. Power Strike/Aleste (SMS) : 0.237517 02 0.101538
207. Super R-Type (SNES) : 0.234571 02 0.098630
208. Gyruss (ARC) : 0.234561 02 0.098620
209. Every Extend Extra : 0.234401 02 0.098462
210. Senko no Ronde DUO : 0.233052 02 0.097130
211. Vulgus (ARC) : 0.231977 02 0.096068
212. Radirgy Noa (ARC) : 0.228861 02 0.092991
213. Steel Empire (GEN) : 0.228168 02 0.092308
214. Lotus Land Story : 0.226983 02 0.091138
215. Brave Blade (ARC) : 0.225052 02 0.089231
216. Space Invaders Infinity Gene : 0.223094 02 0.087297
217. Defender : 0.221538 02 0.085761
218. Centipede (ARC) : 0.220540 02 0.084776
219. Kyukyoku Tiger II/Twin Cobra II (ARC) : 0.220377 02 0.084615
220. Change Air Blade : 0.218819 02 0.083077
221. Commando (ARC) : 0.214878 02 0.079186
222. Decimation X3 (360) : 0.212587 02 0.076923
223. Jamestown : 0.209471 02 0.073846
223. P-47 Aces : 0.209471 02 0.073846
225. Nemesis '90 Kai/Gradius 2 (X68000/MSX) : 0.206677 02 0.071088
226. Thunder Dragon 2 : 0.205303 02 0.069731
227. Hydorah : 0.205174 02 0.069604
228. Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius : 0.202301 02 0.066767
229. Bio Metal (SNES) : 0.201420 02 0.065897
230. Detana!! TwinBee/Bells & Whistles : 0.201028 02 0.065510
231. Bullet Soul (360) : 0.200084 02 0.064578
232. Hellfire (MD/GEN/ARC) : 0.198590 02 0.063103
233. Juno First (ARC) : 0.197698 02 0.062222
234. Exceed 3rd Jade Penetrate Black Package : 0.196676 02 0.061214
235. Area 88/UN Squadron (ARC) : 0.196456 02 0.060995
236. Prehistoric Isle 2 : 0.194668 02 0.059231
237. Super Fantasy Zone : 0.193889 02 0.058462
238. Space Invaders Extreme 2 : 0.192767 02 0.057353
239. Mercs (MD/GEN/ARC) : 0.190823 02 0.055434
240. Darius (ARC) : 0.188477 02 0.053117
241. Elemental Master : 0.187657 02 0.052308
242. Stargate : 0.186157 02 0.050827
243. Asteroids (ARC/7800) : 0.184540 02 0.049231
244. UN Squadron (SNES) : 0.182982 02 0.047692
245. TwinBee (ARC/NES) : 0.181424 02 0.046154
246. Over Horizon (FC) : 0.180959 02 0.045695
247. Shienryu : 0.173114 02 0.037949
248. Carrier Air Wing (ARC) : 0.172075 02 0.036923
249. Titanion : 0.171816 02 0.036667
250. Guxt : 0.171813 02 0.036664
251. Mad Planets : 0.171060 02 0.035921
252. Sonic Wings Special (SAT) : 0.167295 02 0.032203
253. Smash TV : 0.163633 02 0.028587
254. Phoenix (ARC) : 0.162727 02 0.027692
254. Samidare : 0.162727 02 0.027692
256. Darius Burst : 0.162562 02 0.027530
257. Time Pilot (ARC) : 0.159650 02 0.024655
258. Majestic 12/Super Space Invaders '91 (ARC) : 0.159610 02 0.024615
259. Gekirindan : 0.156494 02 0.021538
260. Tempest : 0.147213 01 0.078864
261. Quantized Blaze : 0.145247 01 0.076923
261. Tyrian2000 : 0.145247 01 0.076923
261. Undeadline (X68k) : 0.145247 01 0.076923
264. Battle Squadron (Amiga) : 0.143990 02 0.009192
265. Bangai-O Spirits : 0.142131 01 0.073846
265. The Guardian Legend : 0.142131 01 0.073846
265. Undeadline (MD) : 0.142131 01 0.073846
268. Undeadline (MSX) : 0.139014 01 0.070769
269. MiG 29 Soviet Fighter : 0.135898 01 0.067692
270. Dragon Spirit : 0.134859 01 0.066667
270. The End : 0.134859 01 0.066667
272. Exzeal (360) : 0.132992 01 0.064823
273. River Raid (2600) : 0.132782 01 0.064615
274. Exzisus : 0.129665 01 0.061538
274. Nostradamus : 0.129665 01 0.061538
274. Pleiads (ARC) : 0.129665 01 0.061538
274. Zero gunner : 0.129665 01 0.061538
278. Phantasm Romance 2.5 Plus : 0.128351 01 0.060241
278. Phantasmagoria Trues : 0.128351 01 0.060241
280. Astro Invader (ARC) : 0.126549 01 0.058462
280. Dennin Aleste/Robo Aleste : 0.126549 01 0.058462
282. G-Stream G2020 : 0.123433 01 0.055385
282. Master of weapon : 0.123433 01 0.055385
282. Silk Worm : 0.123433 01 0.055385
282. Super SWIV (SNES) : 0.123433 01 0.055385
282. The hospital found out, write mat (360 Indie) : 0.123433 01 0.055385
287. Every Extend : 0.121355 01 0.053333
287. Purikura Daisakusen : 0.121355 01 0.053333
287. Royal Edoma Engine : 0.121355 01 0.053333
290. Chaos Field : 0.120480 01 0.052469
291. Eliminate Down (MD) : 0.120317 01 0.052308
291. Infinity Danger (360 Indie) : 0.120317 01 0.052308
291. Ordyne : 0.120317 01 0.052308
291. Psyvariar Medium Unit : 0.120317 01 0.052308
295. Xevious Arrangement : 0.118620 01 0.050633
296. Silpheed (Sega CD) : 0.117354 01 0.049383
297. Air Buster (ARC) : 0.117200 01 0.049231
297. Deathsmiles (iOS) : 0.117200 01 0.049231
297. Final Soldier : 0.117200 01 0.049231
297. Star Soldier (PSP) : 0.117200 01 0.049231
301. Mr. Heli No Daibouken : 0.116504 01 0.048544
301. Space Manbow : 0.116504 01 0.048544
303. Radio Zonde : 0.114084 01 0.046154
303. Storm Blade : 0.114084 01 0.046154
305. Illvelo (Wii) : 0.112353 01 0.044444
305. Seirei Senshi Spriggan (Turbografx) : 0.112353 01 0.044444
307. Z-Out : 0.111588 01 0.043689
308. Gorf (ARC) : 0.110968 01 0.043077
309. 4-D Warriors : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Ad Nauseam 2(PC) : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Ancipital : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Baraduke : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Bosconian (ARC) : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Darius Force : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Dragon Breed : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Dropzone : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. G-Type : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Guevara (FC) : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Hacha Mecha Fighter : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Noiz2sa : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Omega Fighter Special : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Pop'n Twinbee : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Psyche Metal: The Bleeding(PC) : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. SisPri Gauntlet : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Space Dungeon : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. SWAT : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Tac/Scan : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Tempest X3 : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Twinkle Tail : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Valtric : 0.107852 01 0.040000
309. Warning Forever : 0.107852 01 0.040000
332. Sonic Wings Limited : 0.105800 01 0.037975
333. XG Blast (NDS) : 0.104856 01 0.037042
334. Radical Radial (ARC) : 0.104735 01 0.036923
334. Rapid Hero : 0.104735 01 0.036923
334. Soldner X-2 : 0.104735 01 0.036923
334. Twin Hawk : 0.104735 01 0.036923
334. Zero Wing : 0.104735 01 0.036923
339. Phantasmagoria of Dim.Dream (PC98) : 0.103511 01 0.035714
340. Thunder Force AC : 0.103086 01 0.035294
341. Beamrider : 0.101755 01 0.033981
342. Big Bang Mini (NDS) : 0.101729 01 0.033955
343. GG Aleste : 0.101619 01 0.033846
343. Ironclad (Neo-Geo CD) : 0.101619 01 0.033846
345. XOP Black Ultra : 0.099492 01 0.031746
346. Geometry Wars Galaxies : 0.098826 01 0.031088
346. Gyruss (NES) : 0.098826 01 0.031088
348. Darwin 4078 : 0.098503 01 0.030769
348. Gallop: Armed Police Unit : 0.098503 01 0.030769
348. Kiwami Shooting AAAAHHHH : 0.098503 01 0.030769
348. Rabio Lepus : 0.098503 01 0.030769
348. Shoot 1up : 0.098503 01 0.030769
353. Andro Dunos : 0.097573 01 0.029851
353. Burai Fighter : 0.097573 01 0.029851
353. Ether Vapor : 0.097573 01 0.029851
353. Section Z (ARC) : 0.097573 01 0.029851
357. Cosmo Gang the Video (SFC) : 0.095386 01 0.027692
357. Cyber Core (PCE) : 0.095386 01 0.027692
357. Earth Joker: U.N. Defense Force : 0.095386 01 0.027692
357. Score Rush : 0.095386 01 0.027692
357. Yakouga Taiken 4 : 0.095386 01 0.027692
362. Otomedius : 0.094348 01 0.026667
362. Plus Alpha : 0.094348 01 0.026667
364. Return of the Invaders : 0.092899 01 0.025237
365. Zaxxon : 0.092270 01 0.024615
366. Aa Mujou Setsuna (JP) / Metal Torrent (US) : 0.092194 01 0.024540
367. Double Spoiler : 0.091264 01 0.023622
368. GwangeDash (PC) : 0.089846 01 0.022222
368. King & Balloon : 0.089846 01 0.022222
368. Zero Rei (x68k) : 0.089846 01 0.022222
371. Katakis (C64) : 0.089704 01 0.022082
371. Uridium 2 : 0.089704 01 0.022082
373. Cobra Command (ARC) : 0.089224 01 0.021608
374. Argus : 0.089154 01 0.021538
374. eXceed 2nd Vampire REX : 0.089154 01 0.021538
374. Grid seeker : 0.089154 01 0.021538
374. NebulasRay : 0.089154 01 0.021538
374. Sky Kid : 0.089154 01 0.021538
379. Ninja Commando (ARC) : 0.086098 01 0.018521
380. Espgaluda 2 (iOS) : 0.086038 01 0.018462
380. Fire Barrel : 0.086038 01 0.018462
380. Three Wonders: Chariot : 0.086038 01 0.018462
383. FixEight : 0.084506 01 0.016949
383. Gaiares : 0.084506 01 0.016949
385. rRootage : 0.083588 01 0.016043
386. Tempest 3000 : 0.083315 01 0.015773
387. Ghost Pilots : 0.082921 01 0.015385
387. Go Beryllium : 0.082921 01 0.015385
387. Gyrodine (NES) : 0.082921 01 0.015385
387. Magmax (NES) : 0.082921 01 0.015385
387. Pilot kids : 0.082921 01 0.015385
387. Time Pilot '84 : 0.082921 01 0.015385
393. Crisis Force : 0.082456 01 0.014925
393. Final Mission : 0.082456 01 0.014925
395. Fighting Hawk : 0.079805 01 0.012308
395. GaiaSeed : 0.079805 01 0.012308
395. Sol divide : 0.079805 01 0.012308
395. Space Invaders Extreme : 0.079805 01 0.012308
395. ToriTatsu Death Label : 0.079805 01 0.012308
400. Prismatic Solid : 0.079767 01 0.012270
401. Shuusou Gyoku : 0.079506 01 0.012012
402. Majou Densetsu (MSX) : 0.079397 01 0.011905
402. Zanac (MSX) : 0.079397 01 0.011905
404. Touhou ~ Ten Desires : 0.078114 01 0.010638
405. Battle Mania 2 : 0.077468 01 0.010000
405. Strikers 1945 Plus : 0.077468 01 0.010000
407. Asteroids Deluxe (ARC) : 0.076689 01 0.009231
407. Boogie Wings/Great Ragtime Show (ARC) : 0.076689 01 0.009231
407. Everyday Shooter : 0.076689 01 0.009231
410. Heavy Barrel (ARC) : 0.073593 01 0.006174
411. 7 Servants Blade : 0.073573 01 0.006154
411. Cloudphobia : 0.073573 01 0.006154
411. Cotton : 0.073573 01 0.006154
411. Le Souer De Barrage (Pc) : 0.073573 01 0.006154
415. Tokyo/ Scramble Formation : 0.072671 01 0.005263
416. Time Soldiers (ARC) : 0.070466 01 0.003087
417. Cybattler : 0.070456 01 0.003077
417. Desert Falcon (2600) : 0.070456 01 0.003077
417. Mad Shark : 0.070456 01 0.003077
417. Revolver 360 : 0.070456 01 0.003077
417. Silpheed: The Lost Planet : 0.070456 01 0.003077
417. Thunder Force VI : 0.070456 01 0.003077
417. X-Out(Amiga) : 0.070456 01 0.003077
417. XX Mission : 0.070456 01 0.003077
417. Yalkina STG : 0.070456 01 0.003077
425 total- Games receiving a single vote: 165
First tie: #223
Largest number tied for a single position: 23 at position 309
Total games tied for a position: 129
I feel like I'm forgetting something important, but maybe I'm just tired.
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Interesting to learn that shmups devs Raizing/8ing, Cave and Seibu Kaihatsu take the Top 10 rankings of the 2011 Top 25 Shmups of All Time list.
APB ranked at #2 spot definitely deserves it with all the various ways one can play it for score.
And the #41 ranked shmup of DDP-DFK PCB tells me that it's not as well regarded as it's earlier predecessors of DDP & DDP-DOJ PCBs. So be it.
Were the PCBs of DDP-DFK ver 1.5 and DDP-DFK Black Label variants counted/considered in this overall list of the 2011 Top 25 Shmups of All Time as well or not (or are they lumped all together with the DDP-DFK ver 1.0 PCB release instead)? It's common knowledge that there are more converted/sold DFK 1.5 PCBs available than the DFK version 1.0 PCBs out there in the wilds.
Makes me wonder how the upcoming 2012 T25SoAT list will fare/turn out.
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APB ranked at #2 spot definitely deserves it with all the various ways one can play it for score.
And the #41 ranked shmup of DDP-DFK PCB tells me that it's not as well regarded as it's earlier predecessors of DDP & DDP-DOJ PCBs. So be it.
Were the PCBs of DDP-DFK ver 1.5 and DDP-DFK Black Label variants counted/considered in this overall list of the 2011 Top 25 Shmups of All Time as well or not (or are they lumped all together with the DDP-DFK ver 1.0 PCB release instead)? It's common knowledge that there are more converted/sold DFK 1.5 PCBs available than the DFK version 1.0 PCBs out there in the wilds.
Makes me wonder how the upcoming 2012 T25SoAT list will fare/turn out.
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
I must confess I get a bit lost in that question, but I will address the salient points as best I can.
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.0 and 1.5 are merged, as is the iPad/iPod version, Dodonpachi Resurrection.
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label is not merged with the above but managed to place higher this year (#36).
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.0 and 1.5 are merged, as is the iPad/iPod version, Dodonpachi Resurrection.
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label is not merged with the above but managed to place higher this year (#36).
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Well, a lot of US and EU players haven't played it yet, and a lot of US gamers won't even end up playing it.
I wasn't going to vote for it just based on vids since we were supposed to have played the games, but it would easily be on my list once I play it most likely. I also do not consider the iOS versions to be the same game, and even then I haven't played those.
I wasn't going to vote for it just based on vids since we were supposed to have played the games, but it would easily be on my list once I play it most likely. I also do not consider the iOS versions to be the same game, and even then I haven't played those.
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
For incognoscente,incognoscente wrote:I must confess I get a bit lost in that question, but I will address the salient points as best I can.
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.0 and 1.5 are merged, as is the iPad/iPod version, Dodonpachi Resurrection.
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label is not merged with the above but managed to place higher this year (#36).
Thanks for the detailed explaination regarding the DFK 1.0 & DFK 1.5 games. That's good to hear that DDP-DFK BL placed higher in the overall rankings.
For some folks, it was their first time trying out the DDP-DFK 1.5 PCB shown at the 2011 CAX show despite it never have been shown previously in past shows. Quite a popular danmaku game along side with Ketsui PCB as well (another CAX shmup offering debut as well).
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Yay The Rest woooo
IGMO - Poorly emulated, never beaten.
Hi-score thread: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34327
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Thanks for interrupting the Garegga flamewar there.
Crimzon Clover got 34th, and Hellsinker is also up there. Whoo!
Crimzon Clover got 34th, and Hellsinker is also up there. Whoo!
Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Whoa damn, Pink Sweets at #28! Better than I expected. 
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Looks like I was the only person to vote for Yalkina STG :p
Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
I missed to vote this year, would've been two votes for this awesome game then.MX7 wrote:Looks like I was the only person to vote for Yalkina STG :p
Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
hey, looks like i was right about ketsui all along, who knew
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Remember the time Gradius V was #1? heh
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Dodonpachi daioujou white label?
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
These lists are getting more erratic, by the year.
Muchi Muchi Pork is a better game than Gradius V? Interesting.
I wonder if Radiant Silvergun's release on XBLA will bring it back into the higher ranks?
Muchi Muchi Pork is a better game than Gradius V? Interesting.
I wonder if Radiant Silvergun's release on XBLA will bring it back into the higher ranks?
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
I hope so. I would have surely included it if I had played it at the time of the voting.evil_ash_xero wrote:I wonder if Radiant Silvergun's release on XBLA will bring it back into the higher ranks?
Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
As someone who's only ever put a few credits into Garegga, what are people butthurt about with regards to it?
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
1. Having to reevaluate the concepts of playing a[n arcade] game. (I. e. shoot much, hoard powerups, avoid dying, use bomb for survival; all of these spell early gameover in Garegga.)
2. Hard to see bullets.
3. Asshole rank on stages 5 to 7 if you didn't play 1 to 4 right.
2. Hard to see bullets.
3. Asshole rank on stages 5 to 7 if you didn't play 1 to 4 right.
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
4. The fact that so much of the information required to play the game properly is pretty much inscrutable unless you spend some quality time with an FAQ, which was itself only possible because someone took it upon himself to hack the game's ROM.
Still a great game and deserving of a Top 25 spot, but I'll declare to my dying day that the game's reputation suffers far more due to self-obfuscation than counter-intuitiveness.
Still a great game and deserving of a Top 25 spot, but I'll declare to my dying day that the game's reputation suffers far more due to self-obfuscation than counter-intuitiveness.
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
There is a lot that is wrong with the game, but this is not one of them. The bullets are very much visible. Raiden Fighters Jet, which I actually do like does have some bullet visibility issues though, but does everything right that Garegga does wrong.moozooh wrote: 2. Hard to see bullets.
And Radiant Silvergun would likely be on my list next year. Depends what else I play though, but I think it's pretty safe to say that it should be on it.
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Muchi Muchi Pork IS better than Gradius V, for people who play shooters for more than survivalevil_ash_xero wrote:These lists are getting more erratic, by the year.
Muchi Muchi Pork is a better game than Gradius V? Interesting.
I wonder if Radiant Silvergun's release on XBLA will bring it back into the higher ranks?
Gotta love the Garegga hate. I'm really happy to see it at number one. Glad to see Gunbird 2 so high up there as well. Also glad to see Pink Sweets getting up there.
Overall, a pretty damn solid list imo.
Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Concerning about the "White Label" thing, it's probably referring to the original versions of CAVE games. Black Label versions are usually tweaked.
I'm really glad that HELLSINKER and Crimzon Clover made it on the list! (Plus, the latter was on the Honorable mentions list, so I should play it when I get back home!)
I'm really glad that HELLSINKER and Crimzon Clover made it on the list! (Plus, the latter was on the Honorable mentions list, so I should play it when I get back home!)
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Gradius V isn't a particularly great shooter in survival terms, either. Too easy and too slow-paced for way too long.dunpeal2064 wrote:Muchi Muchi Pork IS better than Gradius V, for people who play shooters for more than survivalevil_ash_xero wrote:Muchi Muchi Pork is a better game than Gradius V? Interesting.
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
gradius v is not easy
IGMO - Poorly emulated, never beaten.
Hi-score thread: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34327
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
Compared to a great deal of other shooters, yes it is. Even ignoring them, the first three stages provide little resistance and are way overlong as a whole. Nice voice acting though.
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
gradius v is not easy
IGMO - Poorly emulated, never beaten.
Hi-score thread: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34327
Hi-score thread: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34327
Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
[quote="The Renowned Shooter Player "Drum""]I am shit at Gradius V :[[/quote]
Surprising! You've figured out there's a fourth button, right?
Learn to play and you too will see Gradius V isn't a remarkable shooter for pure survival play. If English is not your first language, this doesn't mean "Gradius V is easy," it means "surviving Gradius V is nothing special."
Surprising! You've figured out there's a fourth button, right?
Learn to play and you too will see Gradius V isn't a remarkable shooter for pure survival play. If English is not your first language, this doesn't mean "Gradius V is easy," it means "surviving Gradius V is nothing special."
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Re: 9th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results
You just put it badly, esp. for somebody now questioning my command of english: 'Too easy and too slow-paced for way too long' has too many toos. Makes it look like the 'too easy' part is a seperate, general criticism not linked to the 'for too long' part of the sentence. Should be 'Too easy and slow-paced for too long'. Which I agree with. Watch me ignore the rest of your post!
IGMO - Poorly emulated, never beaten.
Hi-score thread: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34327
Hi-score thread: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34327