XBOX 360 - 240p Video Conversion?

[Sparda]

How are you exactly wiring your bnc's 2 jamma fingerboard ? Like i said earlier (R on 12..G on N, B on 13, Video Sync on P, Sync Ground on 14...But what about R,G,B grounds ? They must be connected together on one ground ? Or separated ? Or do we have to ignore them ?

[fagin]

I'm not..... direct connection to the monitor DSUB connector (I have tri-sync Naomi's).

[Sparda]

My jamma fingerboard was faulty...Video Sync trace was cut..so everytjing is ok now. I just have to wire 2.1 system in my cab

[fagin]

[futurematt5]

Hi there, can anybody tell me whether a scan converter exists that takes RGB Scart input and converts into 240p through...guess what....RGB Scart output!!!

Standalone box would be very helpful for those of us who don't dabble in VGA/HDMI/BNC etc - thinking for 360/PS2 setup hooked up to CRT TV etc etc.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed knowledge to this specialist area of interest to date...!

Matt

[fagin]

Hi there, can anybody tell me whether a scan converter exists that takes RGB Scart input and converts into 240p through...guess what....RGB Scart output!!!

Standalone box would be very helpful for those of us who don't dabble in VGA/HDMI/BNC etc - thinking for 360/PS2 setup hooked up to CRT TV etc etc.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed knowledge to this specialist area of interest to date...!

Matt

Mate.... you're talking jibberish!

RGB SCART will already be 15khz and 240p is 15khz and RGB SCART output is 15khz.

Basically you have no need to scan convert.

I assume you're on about taking a 480i signal and making it 240p!

Fairly easy to sort and you don't use a Scan Convertor for this....

RGB SCART from console to Sync Strike
Sync Strike output to Extron RGB Interface (Matt this is on one of my videos)
Extron output (BNC) to SCART lead (for CRT TV)

Job done.

[antron]

^ assuming the CRT will take composite sync in lieu of c-video.

[fagin]

^ assuming the CRT will take composite sync in lieu of c-video.

Is that a realistic issue though?

[rugdoctor]

yes, as I have found out with my pvm and uvc. Wont display anything from uvc but arcade monitor works fine.

[futurematt5]

Matt

Mate.... you're talking jibberish!

RGB SCART will already be 15khz and 240p is 15khz and RGB SCART output is 15khz.

Basically you have no need to scan convert.

I assume you're on about taking a 480i signal and making it 240p!

Fairly easy to sort and you don't use a Scan Convertor for this....

RGB SCART from console to Sync Strike
Sync Strike output to Extron RGB Interface (Matt this is on one of my videos)
Extron output (BNC) to SCART lead (for CRT TV)

Job done.[/quote]

Hmm interesting. Thanks for the intell. BTW I don't mind taking a bashing on account that I would like to send you the CGA2VGA scaler for repair

[Overkill]

Ok i decided i want one of that Extron RGB, im looking in ebay uk but there are lots of models, Which one is better to go? Just to connect my xbox 1, xbox 360 and others to my Scart CRT

[Fudoh]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Extron-RGB-16 ... 3a7002e622

[Overkill]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Extron-RGB-16 ... 3a7002e622

That seller don't ship to Portugal Will this unit do the same? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Extron-RGB-58 ... 2ebb3efcdc

or maybe this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Extron-RGB-46 ... 1c21130d41

[fagin]

Yes, but the 460xi is a wall mount unit, so not quite sure how that will work out. The 580xi is 100% fine.

[Overkill]

Yes, but the 460xi is a wall mount unit, so not quite sure how that will work out. The 580xi is 100% fine.

Thanks fagin, going to buy the 580xi then. Can i just use a regular vga to scart cable, like the ones for projectors, to connect the Extron RGB to my crt?

[Fudoh]

The DSub15 port on the front is the signal input, the BNC ports on the back are the output. You need a cable from 4x BNC to Scart. Make sure it runs in the right direction. Most Scart to BNC cables on ebay and elsewhere are the other way around (easily fixable though with a soldering iron).

Depending on your TV you also have to supply a switching voltage (unless you can switch your TV manually into RGB mode of course). With a manual switch and without a switching voltage, most Scart inputs expect composite video instead of RGB.

[Overkill]

You need a cable from 4x BNC to Scart. Make sure it runs in the right direction. Most Scart to BNC cables on ebay and elsewhere are the other way around (easily fixable though with a soldering iron).

Not finding anyone selling pre made cables like that, only the "scart to BNC" and some don't even got 4x bnc. Im going look a bit further before buying the Extron. My soldering skill are very bad

[fagin]

You need a cable from 4x BNC to Scart. Make sure it runs in the right direction. Most Scart to BNC cables on ebay and elsewhere are the other way around (easily fixable though with a soldering iron).

Not finding anyone selling pre made cables like that, only the "scart to BNC" and some don't even got 4x bnc. Im going look a bit further before buying the Extron. My soldering skill are very bad

It's not difficult to make a lead up..... this is soldering in it's most simplistic form. Grab your nuts and give it a go!

[Overkill]

How about using allready made cables i got here: one 5 bnc to VGA connected to a vga to scart cable, will it do the trick?

[Fudoh]

works, but the VGA to Scart cable has to be wired for the right direction.

[Overkill]

Ok, just bought a "Extron RGB 580xi Remote Interface" maybe in next weekend i wil have it and give it a try

[Sparda]

Some results with different settings and console

PS2----->Sync Strike---->Extron 580---->Bnc2scart---->Viletims scart2jamma : OK

Xbox1----->Sync Strike----->Extron580----->Bnc2scart------>Viletims scart2jamma : OK

PAL 360 ---->Sync Strike----->Extron580----->Bnc2scart------>Viletims scart2jamma: OK in PAL-50
Doesnt work in PAL-60 ( maybe some kind of sync issue ?)

PAL 360 ---->Sync Strike----->Extron580----->Bnc2Jamma : OK (brightness needs to be adjusted on my screen...and strangely with this settings ,"START" dont work on my hackpad (it is not soldered on the jamma fingerboard, but directly connected to the panel, thanks to Taito 12 pins adapter)

PAL 360 (VGA) ---->Super Emotia----->Bnc2Jamma : OK (the perfection ^^...brightness still need to be adjusted on E2 monitor)

PAL 360 (VGA) ---->Super Emotia----->Bnc2Scart---->Viletims scart2jamma : Doesnt work...same issues as with the Extron RGB....It seems there is a problem with Viletims adapter..but why ?

My only grief actually...i cant install permanently my 360 inside the cab, otherwise my wife will kill me. She's still on Skyrim (almost 140hours now ....add her..XBL id is DarkMochi )..so its difficult to play DaiFukkatsu actually

It's not difficult to make a lead up..... this is soldering in it's most simplistic form. Grab your nuts and give it a go!

BNC are such a pain in the a.. to solder ^^

[Fudoh]

BNC plugs usually aren't soldered, they're crimped.

[Sparda]

First time i hear that ^^ all bnc's i have/found need to be soldered....i just ordered the right tool and some male bnc. Thanks to you..ill be able to make my own cable easily now

[Overkill]

Which tool you ordered? Maybe i will need one like that too

[Sparda]

I contactes Viletim yesterday...i thought maybe he was aware of something, why Xbox 360 has some issues connected to Extron RGB and Scart2Jamma....and guess what, Viletim figured it out and the problem (when 360 is set on PAL 60) is due to some capacitors on Scart2Jamma board. Its an easy fix. So i'll post results when the board will be fixed ..stay tuned


This seems to be the right tool for bnc

www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00115201.html

[emphatic]

....and guess what, Viletim figured it out and the problem

Awesome!

[Overkill]

Ok, so my Extron rgb 580 arrived friday, today i got finnally some time to try it. NTSC xbox 1 - Scart RGB to Sync strike to Extron RGB 580, BNC to VGA female to femalte, VGA to Scart, - phillips CM8833 RGB monitor.

Can't get no sync. The extron seems to be working fine, sync blaster tryed the two syncs jumper and external power supply, BNC to vga cable is good to, so i think its my vga to scart cable (used from a old projector).

Just to get straight and resume it, i need:

Sync strike with power supply and C sync enabled
Extron RGB with all switchs off?? or composite sync on?
Output will be "RGsB"?
If output will be RGsB, keene electronics support advise me to try this cable http://www.keene.co.uk/electronic/keene ... BB21A.html as it will work in both directions.

If the problem is my vga to scart i will try another method with other cables i allready have, before buying others, or try to made one. Will four BNC to phone conected to a 4 phono (RGB+Yellow) to scart (with in/out swith) work?

[Fudoh]

Composite Sync dip has to be enabled. Output will be RGBs, not RGsB. The Keene cable you linked can't work in both directions, unless the cable has a switch (isn't mentioned) or the sync cable is wired to two scart pins (which would be a bad idea).

Most cables with VGA on the one side and Scart on the other are Scart to VGA, not VGA to Scart. Are you sure yours is the right one ?

[Overkill]

I think the box says vga to scart, but i buyed it a few years ago and can't remember for sure. can i open it and change something for it to work in the right direction? i will have no use for this cable anymore so i can use it as a test.

My scart to 4 phono is from hama, like this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hama-Adapter-Sc ... _ai_ps_t_1 but it says YUV not RGB plus sync, so i think will no work it too. How about this one? http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcab ... APTER.html will it work connected to a phono to bnc cable x 4?

It was the support from keene that told me if the signal was RBsB it will work in both ways