Twin Cobra/Kyukyoku Tiger/Tiger Heli

Max_FAD · Post by **Max_FAD** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:47 pm

Tiger Heli

More than 40 loops and maximum hiscore obtained:

FAD - 9.999.990 - area 225 - PSX

*1CC
*Default
*Game speed Arcade

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:53 pm

^Not bad for a first post by someone who joined yesterday.

Photo of ranking please.

No video, just a photo will do.

Max_FAD · Post by **Max_FAD** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:01 pm

DEL wrote:^Not bad for a first post by someone who joined yesterday.

Photo of screenshot please.

No video, just a photo will do.

Soon. I don't have a digital camera, wait ok? I will do...

Shatterhand is a friend of mine and I am from Brazil, sorry my bad english.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:03 pm

he compete with us at our local shmups forum, and we saw his score progressing within time.

So yeah, you can trust him as much as you can trust me. Heh

Max_FAD · Post by **Max_FAD** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:33 pm

Tiger Heli

More than 40 loops and maximum hiscore obtained:

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FAD - 9.999.990 - area 225 - PSX

*1CC
*Default
*Game speed Arcade

Finally, the photos:

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:19 am

Does the area count roll over after 255?

Max_FAD · Post by **Max_FAD** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:39 am

Twiddle wrote:Does the area count roll over after 255?

That or it would be area "1225", the first digit not appear, maybe? I don't know, friend...

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:44 am

True.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:04 pm

Thanks for the screenshot Max_FAD.
Nice going

You must have figured out a foolproof route. As far as I can remember Tiger Heli accepts no mistakes whatsoever.

Luis Redsun · Post by **Luis Redsun** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:05 pm

Hey Max nice score...

Max_FAD · Post by **Max_FAD** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:20 pm

Thanks DEL, Luis and all. I am proud to make part of this site!

If possible, more scores will come...

brianon · Post by **brianon** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:47 pm

Twin Cobra. Loved this to bits when I was younger and recently started playing again in MAME. Will post a score soon.

Are PCBs of TC hard to come by ?

Also, a bit OT but I was looking at the Twin Galaxies hi scores for TC in MAME and the scores here and beating the scores on TG. Why don't you guys send your scores to TG ? or is it a long story ?

Cheers,
Brian.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:33 am

brianon wrote;

Also, a bit OT but I was looking at the Twin Galaxies hi scores for TC in MAME and the scores here and beating the scores on TG. Why don't you guys send your scores to TG ? or is it a long story ?

Its kind of a long story yeah

. Basically our scores would smash most of the score threads on Twin Galaxies, but there are a few reasons why we don't bother:-
1. You have to record your run on tape and I don't know of any tapes that run for 5 hours+ for my Truxton CS or Fire Shark etc.
2. Can't be bothered with a site that lists Western records as World Records - if they simply renamed them as 'Twin Galaxies records' that would be fine.

(I've mentioned this a few times already, but seeing as you asked

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brianon · Post by **brianon** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:46 pm

DEL wrote:brianon wrote;
Also, a bit OT but I was looking at the Twin Galaxies hi scores for TC in MAME and the scores here and beating the scores on TG. Why don't you guys send your scores to TG ? or is it a long story ?
Its kind of a long story yeah . Basically our scores would smash most of the score threads on Twin Galaxies, but there are a few reasons why we don't bother:-
1. You have to record your run on tape and I don't know of any tapes that run for 5 hours+ for my Truxton CS or Fire Shark etc.
2. Can't be bothered with a site that lists Western records as World Records - if they simply renamed them as 'Twin Galaxies records' that would be fine.

(I've mentioned this a few times already, but seeing as you asked ).

Thanks for the info

What about MARP ? Do many post there scores there ?

So for an 'official' Twin Cobra (or any game) hi score you'd have to grab scores from here, TG & MARP ? Anywhere else ?

brianon · Post by **brianon** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:18 pm

Guys. I've gone through shmups/Twin Galaxies & MARP and put together an overall leaderboard for anyone interested...

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	Score	           Source	Name/Nick
1	5,000,320	MARP	WCH
2	4,141,340	shmups	mulletgeezer   
3	3,747,290	MARP	NoMercy
4	3,645,000	shmups	DEL
5	3,557,840	Twin Galaxies	Martin Bedard
6	3,042,380	MARP	Guinness
7	2,725,030	MARP	Midas
8	2,504,650	MARP	BBH
9	1,988,090	MARP	destructor@HotTeam.pl
10	1,900,450	Twin Galaxies	Greg Sakundiak
11	1,816,170	MARP	ZwaX
12	1,638,710	shmups				ch'timi
13	1,585,590	MARP				bubble
14	1,580,750	Twin Galaxies				Shannon Ryan
15	1,531,790	MARP					EMPTY-BOY
16	1,527,060	shmups					PlasmaBlooD
17	1,509,910	Twin Galaxies/MARP/shmups    Didier Sénéchal
18	1,281,360	MARP/shmups			   Edge
19	1,226,030	MARP					shinobi
20	1,197,900	MARP					FOXMULDER

Sorry about the bad formatting. Am I missing any other sources ?

EDIT: Just discovered ArcadeHits scores. And also noticed this threads game defaults a different from Twin Galaxies and I suspect MARP. Oh well. This makes any shmup score on teh board a greater achievement.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:38 pm

Thanks for doing the research brianon. I've never heard of the MARP guys WCH and No Mercy, but their scores are about right for western scores.

On a recent trip to Japan, Mulletgeezer saw a 7mil score on a Kyukuyo Tiger in an arcade. This is the Japanese checkpoint version which is much harder, simply because of the checkpoints. The WR is 10,000,000 Counter Stop.

brianon · Post by **brianon** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:12 pm

Thanks for that.

KT 7+mill...WOW!

The 10 million score. Is that in Twin Cobra or KT ? by a guy with the nick "Counter Stop" ?

Is there any site that lists these scores ?

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:19 pm

brianon - COUNTER STOP is a term denoting the maxing of the game's score counter. Sometimes referred to as 'clocking the score' or '999'ing the score'.
In the case of older multi-looping shooters such as the Toaplan titles: Twin Cobra/Kyukuyo Tiger (spelling?), Tiger Heli, Tatsujin/Truxton, Fire Shark, Vimana etc. The ARCADIA World Records draw the line at 10,000,000+.
You can score higher than that on these particular games, but the line is drawn at 10mil anyway. A particularly sick individual called Mills (-M-) even took Fire Shark to a score of 100,000,000+ and Truxton to 23,000,000+, both credits lasting more than 10 hours without breaks.

Other Counter Stops are written as 99,999,990 or 9,999,990 and some like Raiden Fighters 1 and XXMission wrap back round to 0 and start counting again from scratch once the Score Counter is maxed and exceeded.

Is there any site that lists these scores ?

Gemant's AIVA site did list the proper WR scores and Plasmo has made a shortlist of these WR scores.

brianon · Post by **brianon** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:14 pm

Thanks again for the info.

I've PM's Gemant so maybe he'll get back to me with some scores.

Looks like it would be impossible to narrow down a World Record seeing as it can be maxed at 10mil.

A euro leaderboard is a possibility?

brianon · Post by **brianon** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:19 pm

Got this from the web archives...
KYUUKYOKU TIGER�� (TWIN COBRA) - SPREAM-I.Z - 10.000.000+α

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:03 am

Ed Oscuro 610,050 Area 100 Comment: TC (World) all defaults/no autofire or tricks MAMEUI32 0.123 + keyboard

My first score after a long hiatus, too. Guess I'm not scared of slow boss bullets anymore (at least not that much; was able to bomb my way through the last few stages)!

Another highscore MORE THAN DOUBLED

brianon · Post by **brianon** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:32 am

I suppose I'll post my best score so far.

612,690. TC (world) rom: twincobr.

Way off my best but then that 'best' would have been about 18 years ago

EDIT: Mon 10th March: Now we're talking...933,630

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:39 am

Ed Oscuro 706,150 Area 102
Comment: TC (World) all defaults/no autofire MAMEUI32 0.124a + Mad Catz Xbox 360 joystick

Woo, just had a great run! :D

Although it could've been better - I haven't really practiced the last two bosses I met up with, so I just bombed them (the last boss I reached I was also highly underpowered for, too, as I was suffering from Gradius Syndrome).

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:59 am

Ed Oscuro 709,700 Area 99
Comment: TC (World) all defaults/no autofire MAMEUI32 0.124a + Mad Catz Xbox 360 joystick

Yikes, MAME had the DIP switches set wrong (new install)!

It seems my previous score used the wrong defaults (50K/150K instead of 70K/200K), so I hurried and got a legit higher score (barely). Lots of practice for the game lately - soon I should be able to break into a significantly higher score bracket :p

Ed Oscuro · Post by **Ed Oscuro** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:16 pm

Ed Oscuro 719,200 Area 95
Comment: KT all defaults/no autofire MAMEUI32 0.124a + Mad Catz Xbox 360 joystick

KT seemed harder than TC at first, but the checkpoints actually help in getting your power back. Got killed before the third boss, made a recovery (red weapon seems to work much better at a low power level), and then made it to the second boss. Pretty much wasted my last three lives, unfortunately.

Milkgoat · Post by **Milkgoat** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:00 pm

Not a very good score, but I think it's decent after my second play.

Kyukyuoku Tiger (Normal)

Milkgoat - 516560 - 85 - PSX

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:18 pm

Twin Cobra, PCB, default settings:
2386150 pts, area 300. Had a graphic glitch and lost my first chopper on the two tanks where one shoots aimed strings of bullets (moving up and down) and the other move from side to side and shoots static patterns. Too bad. Then end of level bonus would have given me lots more.

Emph

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