STGT 2k6- Week #5 Poll (Hidden Gem Week)

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:25 pm

in an ideal world vasara 2 would be there in place of vasara and 70% will vote for it but sadly it is not the case

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:26 pm

Blade wrote:My vote is for Vasara for ONE REASON and ONE REASON...

Sorry, you can only vote when you are a member of this tournament. But you'd be welcome to join the next tournament in 2007.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:34 pm

Twiddle wrote:in an ideal world vasara 2 would be there in place of vasara and 70% will vote for it but sadly it is not the case

I've played both briefly, but what are the major differences?

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:39 pm

Enemy chaining based on whether or not you hit with the melee attack (which isn't really chaining) and secret bonuses, basically. You get "bombs" much more frequently, usually from the gems you collect by meleeing.

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:40 pm

DJ Incompetent wrote:lol, and then you're further east than I am. Don't I feel like the dick.

Ypsilanti is due north of Toledo, actually. It's ambiguous anyway, since not everybody considers Ohio part of the midwest, or so I've heard (not sure what it would be, then...).

If we were going strictly by geography, you, Nemo, and Landshark would all be on the same team as me, which would basically render me useless and kill any movitation I had to compete.

Although given how much fun I didn't have playing Blazing Star and Star Force, maybe that wouldn't be so bad. I'm not sure I'll dig Air Gallet, either.

mulletgeezer · Post by **mulletgeezer** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:02 pm

Air Gallet.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:10 pm

Icarus wrote:Looks like someone hit a nerve.
In any rate, BM, we're playing Air Gallet anyway. The vote seems to be heading in that direction.

Not "hit a nerve," really, but seeing people here talking out of both sides of their mouth (or both ends of their digestive system, however you care to see it) tends to irk me under most any circumstances...obviously if Air Gallet's chosen I'll play it, but it's near last on my list in order of preference.

Antiquated like many games from that era, amirite?

Not at all. 1996 isn't exactly "old school"...isn't that the year Garegga came out? Some of my favorite shmups are from that era, including Batsugun from several years earlier. And I'm sorry, but Air Gallet's no Batsugun.

mulletgeezer wrote:Air Gallet is less original but it's quite playable and has the right kind of attributes for a contest, being easy to pick up quickly, quite challenging and having a simple but worthwhile scoring system.

Different strokes and all that, but I'd consider Vasara pretty easy to pick up and understand, and certainly challenging enough...

Vasara's charge is really safe if you do it right, to me it's more like the Takumi bullet reflect shield than the Dragon Shot

You hearin' this, Rob?

but requires less skill than either.

I don't really see how, as you still have to know what spots to use it at for maximum benefit, same as the other two...

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:25 pm

BulletMagnet wrote: You hearin' this, Rob?

I don't like the little bullet-swiper stuff, like in Radiant Silvergun, Chaos Field, Radirgy, etc.

I don't really see how, as you still have to know what spots to use it at for maximum benefit, same as the other two...

It'd probably be more similar to DB. GW is much trickier than it looks. DB also requires you to collect the coins you create, so that's another element beyond secondary move in key spot type gameplay. I'm not quite sure how Vasara works, I just know I don't like the basic gameplay.

Apologies for the Vasara smearing, but I honestly don't think people are influenced by what I say. Probably just as likely to go in the opposite direction.

ParegoricKid · Post by **ParegoricKid** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:25 pm

That's quite a sophisticated rule book you figured out there, DJ Incompetent!

Couldn't resist to post, even more as I'm not in on a team and felt excluded and lonely so this made me feel a lil better

The Coop · Post by **The Coop** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:43 pm

Icarus wrote:Air Pellet?
Air Guitar?
Air Gullet?
Air Gun?
Air Canister?
'air of the Dog?
Air Wave?
Air Gally - Battle Angel Alita?
Air Pistol? (Yeah yeah, did that one already.)
Air Gallery?
Air Gallant? (The Mitsubishi kind.)

Air Jordans.
Airplane.
Airplane II.
Air dirty laundry.
Err of your ways.
To err is human.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:58 pm

The Coop wrote:Air Jordans.
Airplane.
Airplane II.
Air dirty laundry.
Err of your ways.
To err is human.

You forgot one.

Air Biscuit. ^_-
(Look it up at the urban dictionary.)

mulletgeezer wrote:Thunder Clive
Chinese Laser
Energy Fart

The announcer makes me laugh so hard I keep dying in stupid places. >.<

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:06 pm

useless vote for Air Gallet here ^_^

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:20 pm

Icarus wrote: The announcer makes me laugh so hard I keep dying in stupid places. >.<

THE TOURNAMENT WEEK HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET!! Scoundrel.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:53 pm

Rob wrote:THE TOURNAMENT WEEK HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET!! Scoundrel.

Its RASCAL! Get it right!

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:56 pm

Sounds far less devious to me.

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:03 am

"I can't take all this fighting!"

Code: Select all

Air Gallet    - 20 votes 
Vasara        - 12 votes 
Cyvern        -  3 votes 
Xexex         -  3 votes 
Omega Fighter -  3 votes

Air Gallet is the Game Choice for Hidden Gem Week.

You kids play nice now

The voting is deemed no more

Edge · Post by **Edge** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:09 am

You'll find the Scoring thread for Air Gallet here

Good luck everyone.

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:23 am

Rob wrote:Sounds far less devious to me.

I'm devious?

YAY! \(^ ^)/

All I need now is a white cat and a secret underground lair to do my evildoing.

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:34 am

And a kind-hearted "Good Luck" to you too, Edge

just as long as your score is lower than mine...tee hee heeee!

Oh yeah, did anybody give ya the "OMG I'm protesting everything cuz of da selection" PM? Did we in-fact pull this off with minor hostilities?

ParegoricKid wrote:That's quite a sophisticated rule book you figured out there, DJ Incompetent!

Couldn't resist to post, even more as I'm not in on a team and felt excluded and lonely so this made me feel a lil better

Yup yup. Took me a few Labatt Blues to reason out that sunovabitch.

I'm just waiting for the Tiebreaker Clause to come into play...to which then I'll get 8-23 "ban plz"-es

Anyway, if you wanna play so bad this week, since our scores are eventually gonna be thrown in the official long-lasting hi score board, why don' t you head us off at the pass and work on a score to put there.
It seems nobody has put one there yet.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=5227

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:35 am

Icarus wrote:All I need now is a secret underground lair to do my evildoing.

Do you need the address to the namako forum?

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:38 am

freddiebamboo wrote:
Icarus wrote:All I need now is a secret underground lair to do my evildoing.
Do you need the address to the namako forum?

Devious AND forgetful is what I am.
namakoHQ is a good enough alternative. ^_-
To the secret "underground" intarweb lair, my equally devious companions!
*evil laugh*

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:15 am

mulletgeezer wrote:
Rob wrote:
zinger wrote:Air Gallet! Blooooows your socks off!
Congratulations on completing: stage 1.
Thunder Clive
Chinese Laser
Energy Fart

Actually what does it say on that last one, the green bomb? I can't tell.

Thunder Drive
Shining Laser
Energy Spark

..then we have..

Gatling Fire
Tracing Missile
Hunter Seeker

Post by **Shatterhand** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:43 am

I missed the poll again... I would have voted for Omega Fighter

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:20 pm

DJ Incompetent wrote: Oh yeah, did anybody give ya the "OMG I'm protesting everything cuz of da selection" PM? Did we in-fact pull this off with minor hostilities?

I for one am boycotting this week due to this being completely ignored:

1. Make sure they're challenging enough that most people won't finish it and it has some semblance of a scoring system. So there aren't 50 people with clears and basically the same score.

2. Make sure the games are actually enjoyable by most people, if people are going to be playing the same game over and over that shouldn't be a dreadful experience. (ex: no games with really long levels or games with only one or two parts in the game that account for a good score)

3. Not so much in developer weeks like Cave and Raizing, but in the other weeks I would make sure the game is available in MAME and has a home port to give the most people the opportunity to participate.

No offense, this isn't the Shooting Game Tournament 2006, this is Edge's Shmup Meet. So be it.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:48 pm

Nemo wrote:No offense, this isn't the Shooting Game Tournament 2006, this is Edge's Shmup Meet.

No offense, but why don't you make your own fucking contest then?

Oh, wait, I know why not. Probably because "complainer" types usually don't tend to also be "organizer" types.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:03 pm

Rob wrote:
BulletMagnet wrote: You hearin' this, Rob?
I don't like the little bullet-swiper stuff, like in Radiant Silvergun, Chaos Field, Radirgy, etc.

Homura has melee attacks AND bullet reflections.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:04 pm

CIT wrote:
Oh, wait, I know why not. Probably because "complainer" types usually don't tend to also be "organizer" types.

This is one of the biggest truths in the world.

Though in some rare cases, it's possible to convert a "complainer" into an "organizer"... (and he stops being a "complainer"

)

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:49 pm

CIT wrote:
Nemo wrote:No offense, this isn't the Shooting Game Tournament 2006, this is Edge's Shmup Meet.
No offense, but why don't you make your own fucking contest then?

Oh, wait, I know why not. Probably because "complainer" types usually don't tend to also be "organizer" types.

Perhaps I'm cooking something up.

It's kind of hard to start another tournament when there's already one going on, eh? And if I recall some of my ideas were taken and utilized in this tournament from the "Italy vs." topic, like spending a week on each game, having developer weeks, etc. And I don't see how the suggestions I've made would be anything but beneficial to everyone. I realize enjoyment in a shooter can be subjective, whatever, everything else though there's no arguing it. So if something is a good idea how about incorporating it as soon as possible instead of saying, "it's too late, we've already been doing things this way so it doesn't matter if that way makes more sense." And I think you'd be a little bit Cranky Kong too if your team was in second place and you weren't able to help them, and you were already excluded from the first week. And furthermore I love the whole hypocrisy of the tournament in the first place, the promotion of roms and MAME on this board is prohibited but let's have a Shmups MAME-centric tournament? Say wha?

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:56 pm

Nemo wrote:And if I recall some of my ideas were taken and utilized in this tournament from the "Italy vs." topic, like spending a week on each game, having developer weeks, etc.

IIRC, "one week's worth of playing time" and "developer themed weeks" were already part of the first STGT ran by Ramus. （￣～￣;）

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:02 pm

Icarus wrote:
Nemo wrote:And if I recall some of my ideas were taken and utilized in this tournament from the "Italy vs." topic, like spending a week on each game, having developer weeks, etc.
IIRC, "one week's worth of playing time" and "developer themed weeks" were already part of the first STGT ran by Ramus. （￣～￣;）

Never saw it, so those were still ideas I thought of.

STGT 2k6- Week #5 Poll (Hidden Gem Week)

UNOFFICIAL "Exit Poll". Post your vote in the actual thread to make it count.