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In other news...

Phantasy Star Nova for Vita
Soul Sacrifice Delta for Vita
Sengoku Musou 4 for Vita
Dangan Ronpa: Another Episode for Vita
Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends for Vita and PS3(and maybe PS4)
Kagero: Darkside Princess for Vita and PS3
Akiba`s Trip 2 for Vita and PS3

Vita sure is getting a ton of games for a system that hasn`t thus far set the charts on fire.

ZellSF wrote:I even want a PS4 :(
I don`t, for the time being. There are barely any Japanese games on it that aren`t also on the PS3 and even those are still far off. From the looks of it, the thing will have a rougher start in Japan than even the WiiU. I mean, for crying out loud, it`s going to be launching in Japan with Knack, Driveclub and Killzone. What sales could it hope to achieve with those? And what incentives are there for the Japanese devs to commit to the platform when they could just make games for PS3+Vita instead(which is basically what`s happening right now) and reap bigger profits that way?

That Vita TV thing is a day 1 purchase though. I really like the idea.
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I'm not from Japan, so yeah, still want a PS4 :P
Vita sure is getting a ton of games for a system that hasn`t thus far set the charts on fire.
It hasn't set the charts on fire because it has no games. Everyone knows this between the weekly Vita game announcements :P
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Yeah, but if them Japanese devs don`t dev for the PS4, what else is left there? Western AAA bloatware plus some indies? Not cool, man. I`ll still get one for the prettier versions of Ryu ga Gotoku: Ishin and Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, but some original (Japanese)software developed for the PS4 from the ground up would be more than appreciated.
ZellSF wrote:It hasn't set the charts on fire because it has no games. Everyone knows this between the weekly Vita game announcements
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Jonathan Ingram wrote:Yeah, but if them Japanese devs don`t dev for the PS4, what else is left there? Western AAA bloatware plus some indies?
Lots of quality western games on the PS3, I see no reason why there won't be on the PS4. N++ and Resogun alone are enough to get me interested.

Anyway, just reviving this thread to say that the Vita 2000 LCD apparently sucks. People have figured out that much from viewing photos of its screen. Because we all know that's a perfectly valid way to evaluate screens :roll:.

Wanting a Vita TV more and more every day, it looks so nice. Overly optimistically, I'm hoping it makes Sony implement DLNA support in the Vita firmware. Could be a nice media streaming box in addition to being a nice box for playing your PSP/PSV/PSX games .
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ZellSF wrote: PS Vita 2000
  • 1 hour more battery time, but I would take that with a huge grain of salt. Battery lifetime is something manufacturers obsess over to the point of doing stupid things for it (like limiting the max brightness, the speed of the hardware and disallowing wifi under certain conditions). I'm fearing the LCD brightness will be limited as bad as the PSP 3000 was.
  • Select and start buttons both look much larger, might be usable without hurting your fingers now.
  • 1 GB storage built-in, probably to get rid of the "Vita needs expensive memory card to even work" stigma. Not very interesting to more dedicated gamers.
  • My opinion on this depends entirely on the screen type. Decent quality matte IPS screen please. Definitely going to need to see this in person before buying.
I'd be fairly surprised if they outright underclocked the Vita 2000 in the name of battery [remember, console hardware, unless Sony just blanket says "all games released after $SOME_DATE will run at $LOWER_CLOCK_RATE", which is distressingly plausible [if not likely]]. The brightness thing would definitely be more worrying.

The 1GB built in memory should have been there from the get-go, there is no valid reason for the original Vita to not have had that. Would have killed a lot of people's reservations about the thing.

I guess I will wait until the US release of the 2000 to go buy a Vita.
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SCEJ released a trailer to Ore no Shikabane o Koete Yuke 2(Over My Dead Body 2), the sequel to Alfa System`s dungeon crawling PSX RPG: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgtWga7Myqw

Preview
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Neither the PSX original nor the PSP remake made it out of Japan, but Yoshida supposedly hinted that this one might.

Now if only the other Alfa System RPG, Linda Cube, got a Vita sequel... That would be something. It easily matches Oreshika in the originality department, but has better gameplay and is considerably more import-friendly(as in it doesn`t have thousands of menus leading to thousands of sub-menus which rendered Oreshika nearly completely unplayable to anyone not well versed in the secret arts of Moon Speak).
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Interesting. I'll buy any Alfa System game that gets a US release.
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Also, more things I've seen people do: try to compare the difference in how the Vita and the Vita 2000 looks in motion... using blurry 30 FPS Youtube videos.

Replacing a page in the Hori 24 card holder with one from the 3DS 24 card holder works fine. I now have a combined 12 3DS/12 Vita card case. The Hori card case is much more cooperative than the official one. Getting cards out still isn't as easy as I would like though.
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The worst Monster Hunter game in existence, Monster Hunter Frontier G, is now coming to Vita too. An embarrassing grindathon of a game... Not only do you have to buy it(some misconception exists that it`s F2P - it`s not), you have to pay through the nose to get anywhere in it if you don`t want it take a million hours. Want to improve your drop rates for a couple days? - Pay up($15, was it?)! Want your character`s strength increased for a couple of days? - Pay up! Nickel and Diming: The Game.
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Is this thing going to get EVERY indie game I care about?

If so, Amnesia: The Dark Descent and The Legend of Grimrock should be next :P (yeah I know, never happening).
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So I bought a Vita. Mainly to play GGAC+R, but I'm still going to find other ways to justify this purchase, dammit. Even if it means buying every PS2/Dreamcast game I've already played before.

But seriously, the OLED on this thing is tops. I didn't wanna risk the new model having some cheapshit LCD, so I bit the bullet. I also got it in Sapphire Blue, which is awesome.

The Hori case with the retractable screen cover is a must, if you ask me.
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quash wrote:So I bought a Vita. Mainly to play GGAC+R, but I'm still going to find other ways to justify this purchase, dammit. Even if it means buying every PS2/Dreamcast game I've already played before.

But seriously, the OLED on this thing is tops. I didn't wanna risk the new model having some cheapshit LCD, so I bit the bullet. I also got it in Sapphire Blue, which is awesome.

The Hori case with the retractable screen cover is a must, if you ask me.
The one they call "face cover"?
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No, that one's more like the official PSP 3000 case. It encloses the Vita like a clamshell and requires you to open it up to play.

The one I have is more like a hard plastic sleeve that fits snugly around the Vita. There's these white plastic clips on the top and bottom of the Vita that hold it together, and the screen portion of it is on a hinge.

Maybe they're only sold in Japan? Shrug. Either way, it makes the Vita that much more useable for me. It increases the size just ever so slightly, but it makes a significant difference in where my thumbs end up resting.

Switching between that and the PSP 3000 in the official case, there's almost no difference in the distance from the edges to where my thumbs rest. It's super comfortable and makes for a natural playing experience.
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I like the Vita's form factor. I would take it out of any case before playing it. I use this. It's sufficient if any sharp object tries to poke the screen, but obviously not a very good idea if you're going to throw the Vita in a bag full of knives since one is bound to get in through the sides eventually. After a lot of use the plastic flaps that's supposed to clip the case to the Vita is starting to give up though, but that's to be expected. I'm satisfied with it, but I will probably replace it with something else. What I'll get sort of depends on how the Vita 2000 turns out.

Waiting for Sine Mora to hit PS+ paid off, it's October's Vita game. Also Hotline Miami and no (!) PSP games. Hopefully we'll be getting two native Vita titles each month for US PS+ now too like EU always had.

PS3 users gets Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning (for free I might at the very least try this), Shadow of the Colossus (saw that one coming, obviously great) and Poker Night 2 (Telltale Games).

If you own both PS3 and a PSV, PS+ is simply a fantastic rental service for 50$ a year (you can usually get a 1 year subscription for 40$). That's not factoring in the discounts. Which you actually have to be wary of since discounted games often end up being the same games that end up in the instant game collection (what they call the games available on their rental service). I can't stress enough that everyone who owns both a PS3 and a PSV *must* subscribe to PS+.

Oh and it's looking very likely Mighty No. 9 will be getting a Vita release. It's their 3,500,000 stretch goal. They're already at 2,800,000 with 3 days left and most contributions are usually made at the start days and final days of the campaign. It sounds likely Sony will try to make it happen even if they fail the stretch goal.

Also got that awful PSP tearing bug again. This time I had to restart the device. Surprisingly I only have 25 hours of playtime in Wipeout 2048. This must be remedied, but I only have left to elite pass one time trial and the A+ challenges then it's only multiplayer and leaderboard competition, but I'm not sure leaderboards were reset after the Feisar prototype glitch was fixed.
But seriously, the OLED on this thing is tops. I didn't wanna risk the new model having some cheapshit LCD, so I bit the bullet
I wouldn't recommend anyone else do this btw, there are some pretty good LCDs available so I would at least wait for the Vita 2000 before deciding which revision you prefer, I doubt you'll have a problem buying OLED Vitas for a few months after the 2000 release.

I've heard quite a few people feel they need to hurry and buy a OLED Vita, it's not going to disappear overnight.
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Malicious Rebirth is coming in the next US PSN update.

No wonder people think the Vita has no games, Sony and third party publishers keep doing these stealth launches. Also, Worms Revolution Extreme, that might've been slightly stealthy as well.
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ZellSF wrote: Waiting for Sine Mora to hit PS+ paid off, it's October's Vita game. Also Hotline Miami and no (!) PSP games. Hopefully we'll be getting two native Vita titles each month for US PS+ now too like EU always had.

PS3 users gets Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning (for free I might at the very least try this), Shadow of the Colossus (saw that one coming, obviously great) and Poker Night 2 (Telltale Games).

If you own both PS3 and a PSV, PS+ is simply a fantastic rental service for 50$ a year (you can usually get a 1 year subscription for 40$). That's not factoring in the discounts. Which you actually have to be wary of since discounted games often end up being the same games that end up in the instant game collection (what they call the games available on their rental service). I can't stress enough that everyone who owns both a PS3 and a PSV *must* subscribe to PS+.
That's great news about Sine Mora. I put off getting that one as well. I downloaded Kingdoms yesterday on the strength of the reviews, even though action rpgs aren't really my thing. I'm definitely going to give it a try.

Totally agree about PS+: it's a fantastic service. It came free with my new PS3 and I love it.

ZellSF, how do you find out about what games are discounted for + members? Iirc, the PS Store lists a bunch of discounted avatars etc, and it's a time drain trying to find game discounts, so I just gave up on that at some point.
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I read the PlayStation Blog.

Also you can filter the shop by games, well you can with the web store anyway.
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ZellSF wrote: PlayStation Blog.
Didn't know about this. Very useful, thanks.
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I bet you missed this thread. :)

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Apparently the Vita TV will be released in Hong Kong and Singapore 2014-Jan-16. No Western date yet though.
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/07/pl ... uary-2014/
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For some reason I currently find the Vita TV much more compelling than the "real consoles" - PS4/XBox One.
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ZellSF wrote:Malicious Rebirth is coming in the next US PSN update.
Bought this a couple days ago, and since I used the funds I got from October's "$10 for every $50 spent" promotion, it only cost me $5. All the impressions I read before buying it made it very clear that the controls+camera were not very good, and they definitely weren't kidding. I like the game's art, music, and presentation, but the game design/mechanics could have been so much better. It feels like they tried to appeal to both the Musou and character-action game crowd at the same time, and ended up falling short on both categories. I think it would have been a lot more enjoyable if they had gone the full character-action game route: smaller stages, and fewer enemies with more aggressive/elaborate behavior combined with more unique/distinct designs.

Having to spend time farming the boring fodder enemies for energy in order to do any real damage to the bosses ends up feeling more tedious than fun, especially with the lackluster camera. And then there's also having to chase down some of the bosses through the large levels full of infinitely respawning fodder, all the while dealing with the camera and the controls. And then there's the combo/power-attack system which make the game feel really awkward to control. With the type of combo system in place, it would have been really nice if weapon-switching and attacking were combined, because having to sacrifice movement in order to switch weapons on the D-pad during a combo just doesn't flow very well. Power-up mode should have been a button-toggle instead of a hold-release function at the very least. I also wish blocking was only activated while standing still, and also that blocking while moving would always result in a dodge.
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Although it pains me to contribute anymore Playstation threads to off topic's first page, just wanted some feedback on my purchase.

I'm back in Hong Kong and went hunting specifically for a white Vita 1000 model (OLED > LCD) and couldn't find a single vendor in the whole of Sham Shui Po (video game central) with a standalone unit. Plenty of black models going around, white is really only there for 2000 models tho.

In the end I settled for the US Assassin's Creed III limited bundle. Comes with a white Vita, 4gb memory card, and a copy of the game (which to my dismay is unboxed so couldn't immediately sell it). Also got a US Dragon's Crown.

Paid £141 for the ltd bundle brand new, and £21 for DC sealed. How is that price wise? I can't find much reference and being a gwai lo I couldn't haggle more than about £2 off. I couldn't spend all day shopping about and it was the best deal I could find as white 1000 models are weirdly scarce, but I don't know if I overpaid or what.

Also, I need to set up the memory card to Europe to use my PS+ year subscription, is this straightforward or is there anything I need to know to do or not to do?

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It's pretty straightforward if you just want to use your Europe account.

Less so if you want to use multiple accounts at the same time (you'll have to use two memory cards, reset all your vita settings and restart your Vita)
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ZellSF wrote:It's pretty straightforward if you just want to use your Europe account.

Less so if you want to use multiple accounts at the same time (you'll have to use two memory cards, reset all your vita settings and restart your Vita)
Is it the same network as my ps3 account? So I can just set up using that?

How about price? Seems decent aftet a quick glance at ebay, but well, it's ebay - hardly a good guide for value.
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Skykid wrote:Although it pains me to contribute anymore Playstation threads to off topic's first page, just wanted some feedback on my purchase.

I'm back in Hong Kong and went hunting specifically for a white Vita 1000 model (OLED > LCD) and couldn't find a single vendor in the whole of Sham Shui Po (video game central) with a standalone unit. Plenty of black models going around, white is really only there for 2000 models tho.

In the end I settled for the US Assassin's Creed III limited bundle. Comes with a white Vita, 4gb memory card, and a copy of the game (which to my dismay is unboxed so couldn't immediately sell it). Also got a US Dragon's Crown.

Paid £141 for the ltd bundle brand new, and £21 for DC sealed. How is that price wise? I can't find much reference and being a gwai lo I couldn't haggle more than about £2 off. I couldn't spend all day shopping about and it was the best deal I could find as white 1000 models are weirdly scarce, but I don't know if I overpaid or what.

Also, I need to set up the memory card to Europe to use my PS+ year subscription, is this straightforward or is there anything I need to know to do or not to do?

Thanks chaps.
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Skykid wrote:
ZellSF wrote:It's pretty straightforward if you just want to use your Europe account.

Less so if you want to use multiple accounts at the same time (you'll have to use two memory cards, reset all your vita settings and restart your Vita)
Is it the same network as my ps3 account? So I can just set up using that?

How about price? Seems decent aftet a quick glance at ebay, but well, it's ebay - hardly a good guide for value.
They go for about £150 in the UK. And it is the same network as your Psn account.
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£150? For the basic model or the one I got (memory card & game included.)

If it's the same that's rubbish, this place is meant to be a tax free bargain bin for electronics, £9 off isn't much. :(

(Ok Google says no: at least not the white model, which apparently only shipped in the US with this bundle. The UK vita in the same bundle is black only - no idea how that qualifies as a limited edition.)

I'll try to remember my PSN info, haven't used it in ages.
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I have no idea about the limited white edition. But black OLED bundles go for about £150.

Check out Shopto for this bundle(PS Vita plus 10 game Mega Pack + 16GB Memory Card + 30 Days PS Plus + FIFA Football download) - http://www.shopto.net/video%20games/psv ... voucher-ps

I bought mine (3G+Wi FI) for £130 as part of a Tesco deal, which had the 10 game pack and 8GB memory card thrown in. That Shopto deal is better, as for not much more, you get a 16GB memory card, and 1 month PS+ thrown in. And no, I couldn't give a shit about Fifa.
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Check out this video for upcoming Vita games. So much gaming goodness, and with the PS4 doing gangbusters, I can't see as to how the Vita is not going to do well to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5fvFO02Kkk

I think the 3DS's days might start drawing to a close soon. With the PS Vita now at a mass market price, people might just start switching over - no small part due to the PS4. And just like how the Wii sales traction drew to a halt once the PS360 were able to start competing in terms of price, and people started seeing the benefits of HD, I think the same might happen with the 3DS when people start clocking on to the fact that the 3DS is underpowered and overpriced in comparison to the Vita. 3DS still has amazing games coming out though, but its best days might soon be behind it.

2014 is looking to be the year of Sony, in every shape and size.
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