Ketsui X and Daioujou Black Label X - Ports for Xbox 360

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:16 pm

moozooh wrote:Sounds like a somewhat effective anti-cheating measure, haha.

Although it happens mainly because of overheating, right? So I suppose it's not that bad if the console is properly cooled.

It's not just overheating. From what I've read, it has a lot to do with the low quality lead-free solder Microsoft used, which gets brittle as the console heats up and cools down again once you turn it off. As soon as cracks develop, you get a RRoD.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:50 pm

Elixir wrote:
Kiken wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how he managed to break the 96 hour mark in RFA without at least nailing 50 million in one of the games... or unlocking the Almost Master achievement.
He left his console on.

Someone I know, from these forums, who did the same thing with Senko no Ronde and the 100 Hour achievement it has. You know who you are.

That won't work in RFA. The game actually clocks the time spent playing each game.. leaving the game sitting at the menus won't increase the timer like it does in SNR.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:39 pm

Kiken wrote:
Elixir wrote:
Kiken wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how he managed to break the 96 hour mark in RFA without at least nailing 50 million in one of the games... or unlocking the Almost Master achievement.
He left his console on.

Someone I know, from these forums, who did the same thing with Senko no Ronde and the 100 Hour achievement it has. You know who you are.
That won't work in RFA. The game actually clocks the time spent playing each game.. leaving the game sitting at the menus won't increase the timer like it does in SNR.

How about pausing the game while it's in the middle of a stage? I can't think of anything else. I mean, even I have the 50k achievement. Isn't the 100k achievement close to the WR? Sounds pretty difficult.

JAPJAC wrote:OT-I completed the first loop of Ketsui PCB this afternoon using 1 credit. It feels nice to be finally part of the `club` at my favourite game ever.

Congrats.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:57 pm

Elixir wrote: How about pausing the game while it's in the middle of a stage? I can't think of anything else. I mean, even I have the 50 million achievement. Isn't the 100 million achievement close to the WR? Sounds pretty difficult.

I'm not sure about pausing... I know that watching a replay does not count as game time, though.

The WR for Raiden Fighters Jet is just over 200 million. Getting half of that by the end of the game is quite doable. I've come close several times (last time I managed to get 96.8 million), and I haven't even unlocked the 48 hr achievement yet.

CStarFlare · Post by **CStarFlare** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:51 pm

Jockel wrote:Letting my XBOX360 on for a very long time?
That's just asking for a RROD.

I left my 360 on for three consecutive days while getting the 7 Day Survivor achievement in Dead Rising. To be safe, I installed the game to my hard drive.

No problems. It's probably not super dangerous if you install it so it's not constantly accessing the disk.

Jockel · Post by **Jockel** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:47 pm

i dunno, i have a very old one and don't want to risk anything.

antares · Post by **antares** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:22 pm

Just think about the energy consumption costs for leaving the XBox on for such a long time. This thing consumes 203W (the old one)!
I'd say that's a lot of money for one measly achievement.

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:52 pm

it's ok to leave your X360 turned on for long amounts of time, as long as it isn't in a space with blocked airflow, like in a box, or under a blanket.

The RROD is mostly due to temperature changes causing the expanding and contracting around the processor and over time the solder joints may fail, probably also related to how the heat sink is mounted to the board.

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:57 am

Yeah, the problem is the way heat is diverted away from the CPU/GPU. There's a mod somewhere on the net detailing how to improve the airflow inside the console which significantly reduces heat around the chips. This is all academic now anyway with the new consoles (that started to filter into stores as of September last year) that now use chips that run at significantly lower temperatures anyway, but still, might be useful for those with older models that are now out of warranty.

Kron · Post by **Kron** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:37 pm

Not overly interesting but I've just noticed that Sega seem to be publishing this in Japan now...

http://sega.jp/cgi-bin/csgame.cgi?hw=8

By the looks of the list they had involvement with the 2 Raidens and Shiki 3 as well.

rancid3000 · Post by **rancid3000** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:44 pm

Kron wrote:Not overly interesting but I've just noticed that Sega seem to be publishing this in Japan now...

http://sega.jp/cgi-bin/csgame.cgi?hw=8

By the looks of the list they had involvement with the 2 Raidens and Shiki 3 as well.

That is definitely interesting but I don't really care who publishes it as long as it actually gets released.

adversity1 · Post by **adversity1** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:29 am

Good news!

DOJBLEX has gone gold!

http://hgqp.blog44.fc2.com/blog-entry-454.html

CStarFlare · Post by **CStarFlare** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:37 am

sry 4 late

EDIT: also his xbla avatar

haha I like this guy

adversity1 · Post by **adversity1** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:39 am

If it's a good port, all is forgiven...

Dunno when they're gonna announce the release date but I'm betting they'll advertise in the next Famitsu 360 mag and then maybe do a quick release after that. 5pb sure is releasing a lot of shit at the top of the year...

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:28 am

adversity1 wrote:Good news!

DOJBLEX has gone gold!

http://hgqp.blog44.fc2.com/blog-entry-454.html

I'm so excited, I just creamed my jeans. :3

hirounder · Post by **hirounder** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:39 am

adversity1 wrote:If it's a good port, all is forgiven...

Dunno when they're gonna announce the release date but I'm betting they'll advertise in the next Famitsu 360 mag and then maybe do a quick release after that. 5pb sure is releasing a lot of shit at the top of the year...

Looks like DeathSmiles port might get release date in next Famitsu too.

adversity1 · Post by **adversity1** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:08 am

Translated achievements and more info about the game here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349860

moms dude · Post by **moms dude** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:04 am

According to Play-asia it will be released on February 19.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-19-71-99- ... pachi.html

bcass · Post by **bcass** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:45 am

Where are these rumours coming from that these two games are being reconsidered for XBLA release (as mentioned on NeoGAF)?

originalz · Post by **originalz** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:25 am

Just got a call from the store I reserved it from...Feb 19th is indeed the date!

hirounder · Post by **hirounder** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:27 am

bcass wrote:Where are these rumours coming from that these two games are being reconsidered for XBLA release (as mentioned on NeoGAF)?

Probably just wishful thinking.

As for Feb 19th, that's release date for SO4 and Shooting Love, so I doubt it's real release date for EX aswell. Besides 360 release dates in japan are usually announced 2-3 months in advance, so probably late March at earliest.

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:41 pm

my preorder is supposedly gonna ship feb 20th. still don't have a JPN 360 though.

the feb 19 date is in line with it going gold

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:17 pm

hirounder wrote:
bcass wrote:Where are these rumours coming from that these two games are being reconsidered for XBLA release (as mentioned on NeoGAF)?
Probably just wishful thinking.

As for Feb 19th, that's release date for SO4 and Shooting Love, so I doubt it's real release date for EX aswell. Besides 360 release dates in japan are usually announced 2-3 months in advance, so probably late March at earliest.

Party pooper ..

hirounder · Post by **hirounder** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:24 am

Udderdude wrote:Party pooper ..

Just trying to be rational ...the game can come out tomorrow as far as I'm concerned

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:48 am

Wait a minute. The hitboxes of Type A and Type B are swapped in BL? Well, Type B has a far larger shot range, but slightly slower in movement. I won't have much reason to use Type A in Black Label if this is true.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:41 am

The 19th of February is going to be expensive.

Shooting Love 200X
Dodonpachi Daioujou BLEX
Sonic World Adventure

Sonic R · Post by **Sonic R** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:14 pm

Kiken wrote:The 19th of February is going to be expensive.

Shooting Love 200X
Dodonpachi Daioujou BLEX
Sonic World Adventure

Indeed it is! This is looking like the first day in a long time that I will be getting new games. I also have two controllers totaling in price at $200 at that time!

hirounder · Post by **hirounder** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:46 pm

Looks like there wasn't any confirmation of that 19th Feb date in latest Famitsu (no Deathsmiles date either), so my doubts about it being real remain.

Btw. there was small interview in the mag with japanese developers that backup 360 in Japan, 5pb among them. One of thing they said is that "...shooting games future will depend on how well dodonpachi and ketsui sell."

Udderdude · Post by **Udderdude** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:03 pm

hirounder wrote:Looks like there wasn't any confirmation of that 19th Feb date in latest Famitsu (no Deathsmiles date either), so my doubts about it being real remain.

Btw. there was small interview in the mag with japanese developers that backup 360 in Japan, 5pb among them. One of thing they said is that "...shooting games future will depend on how well dodonpachi and ketsui sell."

Honestly I think CAVE's more modern shmups would sell better, if only because they look better and have more characters .. Futari would sell better than Ketsui, if it was ever ported. IMO.

hirounder · Post by **hirounder** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:00 pm

Ok amazon.jp says 02/19 aswell ....that's it then, guess I was wrong

Still... kinda bad choice putting two STGs same day along with maybe biggest 360 game this year in Japan i.e. Star Ocean 4.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B001C3I4PM/