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The only negative out of this, is that revenge porn may be easier to go after. And I like revenge porn.

I'm a horrible person, I know. I'm only human. :wink:
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I don't even know what revenge porn is.
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The only revenge porn I need is Denton & Daulerio's sphincters glowing white-hot under a pistoning punitive pounding. Subject to such friction, if the appeal doesn't pan out they may yet find employment as backup runway lights.

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edit: and as if the DPRK News Authority's verdict wasn't harsh enough, now even Taiwan's #1 news station has piled onto Gawker in their usual trenchant style. :O Also, did someone say revenge? Judge better invest in a quality umbrella, the piss molotovs may soon fly.

Interested to see where the appeal goes. Will it be concluded that the Bollea whore was asking for it, and did indeed enjoy it anyway (per Gawker's counsel)? Might the bitch have to swap that do-rag for a hijab and maintain a chaste demeanour in public, so as to not inflame the attentions of Gawker? Or perhaps, just as a woman uncovered in public is like meat left before dogs (mirite lads?!), so too will celebrities be even in private bedrooms. Woof woof! Baby-smooth balls and puffy pink pussies, ahoyyy!

It's all so very principled.
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More censorship, thanks to SJWs.

We have the butt censor, of Tracer's victory pose, in Overwatch (ONE SJW got this to happen :lol: ).
And then we have the bigger underwear, in Star Ocean 5.

I think these game companies are far more worried about bad press, rather than actual fans being pissed. The Overwatch thing has tons of people bitching, but Blizzard will just delete the threads.
I guess they just want a good write up on Kotaku.

Danny O'Dwyer had the dumbest comment, of ALL TIME, about this.
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https://twitter.com/dannyodwyer/status/ ... _src=twsrc
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Overreact is an SJW game anyway. It's the one with that butch pink-haired russian shot-put champion character, right?
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evil_ash_xero wrote:Witness greatness:

https://twitter.com/dannyodwyer/status/ ... _src=twsrc
And don't miss his wise, world-weary clarification that drives the justice home! Censored cartoon butts = rape tax, sorry lads

I was going to add who is this fuckface MIRITE LOL but then I saw he's Irish, and am now weeping into my Guinness. As the ashes of my atomised Poe detector drift, like the gentlest of March snow.
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Yeah, his explanation of what he meant, was interesting. Most humans wouldn't have understood that.

It doesn't really make his statement, any less lol-worthy.

I pegged him as an SJW, when I was watching a "Dumbest things in MGS" vid of his. Snake was told that Vamp was a bi-sexual, and that's why he had the nickname. Danny commented that he didn't know that, since he hadn't gone to "bigotry 101". :roll:

Weird, because he did a vid of an early play of Hatred, and had no problems whatsoever with the violence. I wonder how long before he realizes that SJWs aren't supposed to be too keen on that either?
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They love violence as long it's justified under the Progressive Stack Doctrine.
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Sly Cherry Chunks wrote:They love violence as long it's justified under the Progressive Stack Doctrine.
Oh, you mean as long as it's white people killing white people? Specifically, white males?

They're sort of confusing with that, as you had to kill a bunch of female gang members, in the recent Assassin's Creed game. I guess they liked the "empowered" thing enough, that they didn't mind the violence?

Sometimes, I am not sure they know what they want, exactly.
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^sorry, I was actually referring to real life violence. Curtain-twitchers dropped videogame violence the same way they dropped D&D devil worship. The war on women is the moral panic du jour now.
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I don't think the Tracer pose thing was an obvious concession to the new-wave ideologies of university goofballs; Blizzard said they were considering changing it anyway because it didn't quite fit with the character's personality, they just decided to go ahead with it when it was highlighted by a third party.

In other news Alison Rapp at Nintendo has been fired for moonlighting, although she considers months of GG aggravation to have been the real culprit.
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She was fired for moonlighting that was incompatible with Nintendo policies, so there was probably something X-rated involved. Her Twitter activity certainly hints at it, i.e. asking fans to buy her lingerie, and posting teasers of "shootings". On a related note, GG dug up that she wrote a thesis promoting child pornography while in college.
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Skykid wrote:I don't think the Tracer pose thing was an obvious concession to the new-wave ideologies of university goofballs; Blizzard said they were considering changing it anyway because it didn't quite fit with the character's personality, they just decided to go ahead with it when it was highlighted by a third party.
As a friend of mine pointed out, we're living in a new age where most good game developers are no long exclusively living in ivory towers in a little island in the pacific. We're starting to get used to more transparency, more blog posts, more twitter updates, but at the same time we often don't know what's already underway behind closed doors in the development process or the real reasoning behind the choices they make.

Which leads to over-reactions when something is changed for what we think is a reason we don't like, when it may actually be something completely different. Or a combination of factors. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
Sly Cherry Chunks wrote:Overreact is an SJW game anyway. It's the one with that butch pink-haired russian shot-put champion character, right?
The fuck? There's like 4-5 sexy girl characters in skimpy, skin-tight costumes. How does one character make it an "sjw game" when it's already full of the very thing that's anathema to them?
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Bonus! wrote:On a related note, GG dug up that she wrote a thesis promoting child pornography while in college.
Article Title:
Speech We Hate: An Argument for the Cessation of International Pressure on Japan to Strengthen Its Anti-Child Pornography Laws

Abstract:
a journal article arguing that Western pressure on Japan to strengthen its censorship laws regarding media depictions of fictional minors is ethnocentric and a red herring designed to shift the blame for violence against children from governments and other patriarchal power structures to relatively passive media producers and consumers.
yep, that's totally an article about promoting child pornography right there.. according to her she wasn't involved in any the censorship decisions on recently localized titles, and goes on to state if she had been she would've opposed them. given the views expressed in that article i'm inclined to believe her.

makes 0 sense to me why ppl assocaited with gg would go after her, seems to me like she's on their side regarding censorship and such.
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Bonus! wrote:GG dug up that she wrote a thesis promoting child pornography while in college.
That's not what her thesis was promoting whatsoever.
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e_tank wrote:makes 0 sense to me why ppl assocaited with gg would go after her, seems to me like she's on their side regarding censorship and such.
Apparently she'd said some manner of feminist-ish-sounding stuff on social media at some point, so I guess even if she wasn't actually involved in the localization process at all, that (and the fact that she actually talked back to her accusers) was enough to make her "emblematic" of the "problem" at the company, or something. Mind you, I do wish Nintendo was more open about what they change and why, instead of letting it all be suddenly sprung on us via leaks and whatnot, but yeah, this whole episode was pretty stupid, and it'd be a real shame if it did end up having anything to do with the pink slip.
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Squire Grooktook wrote: The fuck? There's like 4-5 sexy girl characters in skimpy, skin-tight costumes. How does one character make it an "sjw game" when it's already full of the very thing that's anathema to them?
Im not interested in bland TF2 clones so I haven't been following this one closely. That's the only other thing I saw about it, that the pink haired character was introduced with a note saying 'S-see? We are listening to feedback!'
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From what I've seen of the gameplay, the diverse character abilities make it a little bit less bland then TF2 itself (which isn't what I'd call a bland game either). The real problem is the pay to play nature of PS4 online.
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Bonus! wrote:She was fired for moonlighting that was incompatible with Nintendo policies, so there was probably something X-rated involved. Her Twitter activity certainly hints at it, i.e. asking fans to buy her lingerie, and posting teasers of "shootings". On a related note, GG dug up that she wrote a thesis promoting child pornography while in college.
It has nothing to do with GG or anti-feminism or CP or whatever. She had a side job as erotic model posing with Nintendo products and she posted some 'teasers' from this shooting on her, with Nintendo affiliated, Twitter account.

NSFW: http://imgur.com/01wzJpm

Notice the 3DS on one of the pics. At this point I'm sure that she is somehow mentally challenged.
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Teufel_in_Blau wrote: It has nothing to do with GG or anti-feminism or CP or whatever. She had a side job as erotic model posing with Nintendo products and she posted some 'teasers' from this shooting on her, with Nintendo affiliated, Twitter account.

NSFW: http://imgur.com/01wzJpm

Notice the 3DS on one of the pics. At this point I'm sure that she is somehow mentally challenged.
I think this is the exact reason. Nintendo is a large corporation who are fastidious about their public reputation. At the same time they operate under legal guidelines for hiring and firing and I'm sure their HR dept is at the top of the red tape game. If you have ever worked in management for a large company you will know firing someone is a thousand times more difficult than hiring. There's no way they would fire her for a reason that didn't break the rules of her contract or for something the company didn't consider genuinely heinous.

There were probably several prior official warnings behind this firing and if she wasn't properly representing the company publicly then moonlighting is as good a reason as any to terminate her employment.

It's probably not her opinions on feminism, gamergate, or the thesis she wrote in Uni that had much to do with the dismissal.
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Considering that she only got the boot recently despite all the previous controversy, I'd say that her dismissal had more to do with the fact that she has been moonlighting as a camgirl(?) while posing in lewd outfits with a Nintendo product rather than everyone calling for her dismissal. Someone at the top probably thought that a PR spokesperson for Nintendo who sells lewd pictures of her holding a Nintendo product would give off the wrong impression.

Although right now the blame manages to get shifted to GamerGate anyways, because surely Big N would have never found out about her moonlighting under an anonymous name (while posting teaser pics on her public Twitter profile) if it weren't for those damn snitching gators. So much for moral integrity.
I'm rather surprised that they hired her in the first place despite her rather 'controversial' college thesis. You'd think that a company which cares a lot about its image would heavily monitor their employees on social media for anything that might damage the company's reputation.
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Nice non-controversy. Those SJWs sure are destroying our hobby.

Meanwhile, professional game reviewers continue to dictate their controller-throwing tantrums and call that doing their jobs. Are you any more clear on whether this game is worth your time and money after reading that review than before?
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Its 2014 and people still read RPS?
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Wow, haven't read Rock Paper Shotgun in ages but never saw BS like that article. In the comments people have to explain that you need to watch his attack patterns and strike at the right moments. Who'd have thought it? Also in the comments... people moaning that boss fights in games are always too hard and never fun!
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Mischief Maker wrote:Are you any more clear on whether this game is worth your time and money after reading that review than before?
I am. Not because of the text, but because the screenshots show off the horridly ugly "retro" visual style, which would be enough to give me eye-cancer over the course of an entire game.

EDIT: BTW, I will say that Walker has a point in the comments when he says "However, the rather larger issue is of boss fights being incongruously difficult compared to the rest of a game." Easy stage/hard boss syndrome is annoying, and leads to the player spending most of his time in a game really bored, trapising through stages that he can do in his sleep, just to get to the interesting part again. Hard bosses are good, but if you're going to do that, you'd better make the stages hard, too.
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The scrubs you will always have with you.

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Mischief Maker wrote:Nice non-controversy. Those SJWs sure are destroying our hobby.

Meanwhile, professional game reviewers continue to dictate their controller-throwing tantrums and call that doing their jobs. Are you any more clear on whether this game is worth your time and money after reading that review than before?
No amount of protests and boycots can fix one's poor taste and terrible skills in videogames, and prevent them from writing opinion pieces
That article is shit, but that's probably what RPS regulars like to read, since Walker is still employed there
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Mischief Maker wrote:Nice non-controversy. Those SJWs sure are destroying our hobby.

Meanwhile, professional game reviewers continue to dictate their controller-throwing tantrums and call that doing their jobs. Are you any more clear on whether this game is worth your time and money after reading that review than before?
The censorship just keeps coming, and at some point, it may be something you care about.

Anyway, as for Alison Rapp....ugh...this one is a bit weird. As BulletMagnet said, she came to the attention of GG, during the Fire Emblem thing. She said some things on Twitter, that somehow got GGers to think she was working in the translation department. However, it turned out she was just PR. There was a guy that was actually working in the translation department, and GG were all over him as well. However, he doesn't have anything going on that Nintendo would have a problem with.

Now, GG did dig up this old paper. I haven't read it, but I get the vibe that "it endorses child pornography" is probably hyperbole. It seems more like "don't bother Japan about their CP". If anyone has some clear quotes, that will make me change my mind...I am more than happy to hear it.

Now, GG STILL aren't the ones who contacted Nintendo. It was a lady who works at the Wayne Foundation. They work to prevent child abuse, and whatnot. She is the one who contacted Nintendo, and that's when things went downhill for Rapp.

I think Rapp was put under the microscope because someone that worked for the Wayne Foundation contacted them, and that's bad PR. I don't think Nintendo really care what hundreds, or even thousands of fans think. They're really stubborn.
She worked in PR, so I can see the issue here.

The fact that she worked as a cam girl is truly bizarre (not to mention SHE is the one that put this info out. Well, to the masses anyone. Some anon told Nintendo). I mean, I was wondering how that was going to play out, and then it turns out she did this too. There's no way she's going to be working at Nintendo, with those two strikes.

It's just weird. I wasn't that interested in the whole thing, as I didn't really see her as being an issue. Just another SJW...but only working in PR. Her being fired will solve no problems, with Treehouse.
I can see why Nintendo fired her, but I'm not one of the people who looked into her past, or even cared about it. There were a decent amount of people who had a problem with digging into her past like that (Zoe Quinn's ex boyfriend, for instance). But that's going to happen, no matter which side you're on. Unfortunately, for her, there was some eyebrow raising stuff to see.
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Business as usual http://imgur.com/Bzcgre5

If Zoe Quinn had never happened, maybe this could've kicked off gamergate. (just replace all mentions of it with 'basement dwelling virgins who are angry about cartoon tits').
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Pretty typical, at this point.

We're at such a weird time, where gamers and game journos basically hate each other.
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