Well, duh.Casper<3 wrote:I used to post as apple arcade (true)
Living in a PAL country myself, I'm fully aware of how dead the PAL scene is--to the point where most people here are PC gamers, dependent entirely on Steam releases. Even then, regional pricing typically means even the "sales" are nowhere near the prices of US sales. People in Oceania are accustomed to bandwidth limits on top of the price of actual games. Hell, even people locally share files because of bandwidth caps. People here use import stores because local prices are absolutely ridiculous--and always have been. Various PAL areas won't receive their PAL version the same time as various other places. Some games aren't released into PAL because they aren't in five different other languages, four of which you don't speak. And so on.bcass wrote:What do you mean by this?Elixir wrote:the dead PAL gaming scene
Haven't splashed out for the DLC content yet but I certainly will at some point.
I dunno man. maybe you could start printing up lists of everything your releases *don't* include, just to help spell it out for the hard of thinking. "NOTE: Black Label DLC does not contain Ketsuipachi Mode, a free Big Mac, a cheque for £5,000, a map detailing the precise location of the Ark of the Covenant or replacements for your missing brain cells." Something like that.torisuRSG wrote:We don't set out to mislead people, no.
It seems to me the text makes clear what is in the box and what is in the DLC. And if the *image* we are discussing may give the impression that ketsui is included, why does the adjacent *text*, "Black Label DLC", not contradict? Ketsui was not included in the Black Label DLC in Japan.
I can already see this as tiny, tiiiiiny print at the bottom of their ad.E. Randy Dupre wrote:I dunno man. maybe you could start printing up lists of everything your releases *don't* include, just to help spell it out for the hard of thinking. "NOTE: Black Label DLC does not contain Ketsuipachi Mode, a free Big Mac, a cheque for £5,000, a map detailing the precise location of the Ark of the Covenant or replacements for your missing brain cells." Something like that.torisuRSG wrote:We don't set out to mislead people, no.
It seems to me the text makes clear what is in the box and what is in the DLC. And if the *image* we are discussing may give the impression that ketsui is included, why does the adjacent *text*, "Black Label DLC", not contradict? Ketsui was not included in the Black Label DLC in Japan.
If this is about poor pricing/releases in Oceania, that's one thing... but PAL is not a dead/dying region in the slightest! I say this as a North American NTSC gamer!Elixir wrote:Living in a PAL country myself, I'm fully aware of how dead the PAL scene is--to the point where most people here are PC gamers, dependent entirely on Steam releases. Even then, regional pricing typically means even the "sales" are nowhere near the prices of US sales. People in Oceania are accustomed to bandwidth limits on top of the price of actual games. Hell, even people locally share files because of bandwidth caps. People here use import stores because local prices are absolutely ridiculous--and always have been. Various PAL areas won't receive their PAL version the same time as various other places. Some games aren't released into PAL because they aren't in five different other languages, four of which you don't speak. And so on.bcass wrote:What do you mean by this?Elixir wrote:the dead PAL gaming scene
The fact that this is even being released before the US is notable in itself, for obvious reasons. How many times can you think of PAL one-upping the states with a game release? PAL releases have and always will be, an afterthought in the gaming world.
I'm just being realistic.
I'd rather have Dodonpachi, you know?
Homura and Psyvariar anyone?PixelDharma wrote:PAL is getting a LOT of things that America is not.
...Matskat wrote:was hoping one of the arrange modes might be Ketsupachi, anyone know if it's part of the BL DLC?
There are still games that PAL misses out on especially when it comes to niche titles that Altus, NISA, Aksys etc put out on sony hardware, so PAL isnt getting everything, its just that its more balanced nowadays.Bananamatic wrote:Homura and Psyvariar anyone?PixelDharma wrote:PAL is getting a LOT of things that America is not.
I think it arrived days ago, but it was mailed to my parents' address which is the address I have for my credit card. This is totally awersome.You're treating Oceania as if it's separate to PAL, which is wrong; it's not like Europe is somehow exempt of this. Just because PAL is/will be receiving <5 exclusives within the last 5 years, doesn't mean we're "getting A LOT". I don't care how "high profile" or "mega" Xenoblade is, 11 months to receive the European version of Persona 3 Portable is just terrible. Americans complain about $60 dollar games while PAL gamers have been paying $90+ for the exact same thing--months later--for the last two decades.PixelDharma wrote:If this is about poor pricing/releases in Oceania, that's one thing... but PAL is not a dead/dying region in the slightest! I say this as a North American NTSC gamer!
PAL is getting a LOT of things that America is not. I've imported 2 games this year from PAL that we are not getting. Xenoblade and the other 2 Nintendo RPGs (The Last Story and Pandora's Tower) are not releasing in America. And the fact that Rising Star Games' Dodonpachi Ressurection release is unlocked for American consoles tells me that an actual American disc release is not likely!
Square Enix also puts out collectors editions for all their games in PAL, while North America gets nothing like that.
It's not the 90s anymore, where PAL misses out on mega games like FF6 and Chrono Trigger. Now it's NTSC-U that is missing a lot of the Japanese releases! The PAL region is getting a lot of these games, alongside the rest of the major western releases. I have heard that PAL is considered an emerging market with a lot of sales potential... and European publishers seem to be more interested in bringing over niche releases than the American branches (which are doubling down on what are considered to be safe moneymakers in America, such as FPS).
PAL might be missing Otomedius
This, games like blazblue calamity trigger took almost a year to come out here (in fact the sequel came out in america 3 MONTHS later). Countless other games like shiki 3, contra 4 and various atlus published games never came out here at all. It pissed me off when americans got mad as fuck over 3 games for wii that they weren't going to be able to play.Elixir wrote:You're treating Oceania as if it's separate to PAL, which is wrong; it's not like Europe is somehow exempt of this. Just because PAL is/will be receiving <5 exclusives within the last 5 years, doesn't mean we're "getting A LOT". I don't care how "high profile" or "mega" Xenoblade is, 11 months to receive the European version of Persona 3 Portable is just terrible. Americans complain about $60 dollar games while PAL gamers have been paying $90+ for the exact same thing--months later--for the last two decades.PixelDharma wrote:If this is about poor pricing/releases in Oceania, that's one thing... but PAL is not a dead/dying region in the slightest! I say this as a North American NTSC gamer!
PAL is getting a LOT of things that America is not. I've imported 2 games this year from PAL that we are not getting. Xenoblade and the other 2 Nintendo RPGs (The Last Story and Pandora's Tower) are not releasing in America. And the fact that Rising Star Games' Dodonpachi Ressurection release is unlocked for American consoles tells me that an actual American disc release is not likely!
Square Enix also puts out collectors editions for all their games in PAL, while North America gets nothing like that.
It's not the 90s anymore, where PAL misses out on mega games like FF6 and Chrono Trigger. Now it's NTSC-U that is missing a lot of the Japanese releases! The PAL region is getting a lot of these games, alongside the rest of the major western releases. I have heard that PAL is considered an emerging market with a lot of sales potential... and European publishers seem to be more interested in bringing over niche releases than the American branches (which are doubling down on what are considered to be safe moneymakers in America, such as FPS).
PAL might be missing Otomedius
A lot of the time, these releases have nothing to do with the publisher. Xenoblade, Pandora's Tower and The Last Story have been denied by Nintendo of America, not by any publisher. They weren't by Nintendo and could've been published by someone else. A variety of other games have been denied release and it isn't any publisher's fault, it's corporations like Sony and Microsoft who will outright deny games with the judgemental book-by-cover approach. PAL is receiving "A LOT" (as you put it) because America is getting fucked by its corporations and their "quality control". No physical Agarest for PS3. No physical Arcana Heart 3 for 360. Timed exclusive agreements restricting games from being ported to other consoles. Sony refusing 360 material unless it's upgraded and superior in some form, and so on. I would know this, as I know people working or have worked under the requirements of these corporations, of which you're obligated to fit in around, else they'll lose interest and drop you and your content like it wasn't anything worthwhile to begin with.
I do like the "PAL is getting A LOT" impression you have of PAL releases. Americans miss out on a few games and it's suddenly time to blow things out of proportion. You guys always were good at making something out of nothing. I would like anyone on this forum who is a PAL gamer to see if they're exempt from the following: 1) imports games or, 2) pirates games. I think you'll find the mass majority of PAL users have already chosen one of those options long before now for obvious, explained reasons. And I am saying this as a PAL gamer.
RegalSin wrote:Rape is very shakey subject. It falls into the catergory of Womens right, Homosexaul rights, and Black rights.
There aren't any properly competitive scores on there no.Erppo wrote:The exact requirements for the stage 1 Ura entry are still a bit hazy and I believe they vary between styles. The general idea is to not let the tanks run over the silos, get all three bees in the start and have full hyper charge at the point the midboss should teleport in. What silos exactly, I honestly can't tell. At least with Power style, you can let the second silo the first tank will run over be crushed but if you fail to destroy the first one, you will not enter. There is also a Strong style replay in the boards where the guy lets almost all the silos get run over and still gets Ura somehow.
I'm curious if there are any good 1.5 scores in the PAL boards yet. Could someone perhaps report the situation there?
http://f.hatena.ne.jp/elixir68k/20110213170334Estebang wrote:I'm sure it's been posted somewhere else, but can anyone post the requirements for activating the alternate route in Stage 1? Rising Star got cheeky about it in the manual, blanking out words.
