Under Defeat HD

[BPzeBanshee]

Glad to hear you're still around Torisu. Better a late reply than a never reply. Do you actually have a preferred method of contact for us guys other than hoping you'll reply some day?

I mentioned the Facebook/Rising Star Forum because I figured that'd probably be the more professional method and that's what worked for me before when voicing my own concerns. Very happy with my purchase of Akai Katana once I was informed the 4:3 issue had been solved, for the record.

[torisuRSG]

We have just this minute announced Under Defeat HD Deluxe Edition PS3 for the USA. I can't tell you anything about 360 yet.

Thank you!! I assume distribution will still be handled through Aksys?

Yes, that's right.

Give Kokuga a serious look, it's the latest project of G-Rev and Hiroshi Iuchi (Ikaruga). With its robust single-card download play, I think it could be a popular multiplayer game. And with the 3DS, there isn't the issue of a region-free version eating into Western sales. I do have to wonder how you haven't heard of it if you're already in contact with G-Rev, though.

Well, my colleagues might have; I'm just saying I haven't.

[torisuRSG]

Glad to hear you're still around Torisu. Better a late reply than a never reply. Do you actually have a preferred method of contact for us guys other than hoping you'll reply some day?

I mentioned the Facebook/Rising Star Forum because I figured that'd probably be the more professional method and that's what worked for me before when voicing my own concerns. Very happy with my purchase of Akai Katana once I was informed the 4:3 issue had been solved, for the record.

Thank you very much, I'm glad you're enjoying it.

Genuinely sorry for tardy replies; I haven't been checking in here of late, tbh.

The RSG Facebook page, forum and torisu@risingstargames.com are much more likely to see a more timely response, just because more people are 'on them' and they're our own tools as it were.

Thanks again

[xbl0x180]

I already bought the import 360 version, so it wouldn't hurt to shell out for a PS3 version

[Zeether]

I went to the G.Rev Facebook page, and look who's spamming their bloody wall:


Japhei never knows when to quit, does he?

Oh, and I hope RSG can totally look into Kokuga for a Western release, but try to bring it to the US too. Having it in Europe only also means we get region locked out.

[Op Intensify]

Looks like this is going to be on PS3 only in the US, and 360 only in Europe? Strange.

[Cuilan]

I'm guessing the European 360 version will be playable on US 360s, like what they did with DFK. It would make more sense to do it that way than to do a separate US 360 release, assuming MS still mandates a minimum print run of 50k copies for 360 games released in the US.

[HydrogLox]

... and 360 only in Europe? Strange.

"The Rest of the World" - i.e. Europe gets both:
http://www.risingstargames.com/game.asp ... dition-ps3
http://www.risingstargames.com/game.asp ... n-xbox-360

"The Americas" currently only gets the PS3 version
http://www.risingstargames.com/game.asp ... on-ps3:AMS
(Note the added ":AMS" at the end of the URL)

The sales numbers on the PS3 version may have an effect on whether Rising Star Games will risk localizing region free games in the future.

[Damocles]

No version of Under Defeat has had a good cover, but damn is the new one ugly.


...still buying it, however.

[torisuRSG]

We are currently talking with MS about the USA version. At this time, please don't assume the EU version will be playable on US consoles.

[NeoStrayCat]

We are currently talking with MS about the USA version. At this time, please don't assume the EU version will be playable on US consoles.

I can think of 2 good reasons for this, maybe and no, it will not be playable for the PAL ver. to play on a NA 360. But yeah, see if you can try bringing it over, even though it may/not happen due to costs and mandated procedures. But you never know is all...

[Op Intensify]

Torisu, if a US multiplat release for UDHD is going to be overly expensive and risky, don't do it. I'd much rather have the game be PS3-only here than have your chances of being able to localize Kokuga or Dodonpachi SDOJ in the future put in jeopardy. There's no doubt that you took a considerable loss on Akai Katana (which nosedived in price very soon after release), so some prudence is necessary.

If your company folds or is forced to pull out of the US, Japanese retail shmups will no longer have any pathway to sales here.

[Kiken]

Torisu, if a US multiplat release for UDHD is going to be overly expensive and risky, don't do it. I'd much rather have the game be PS3-only here than have your chances of being able to localize Kokuga or Dodonpachi SDOJ in the future put in jeopardy. There's no doubt that you took a considerable loss on Akai Katana (which nosedived in price very soon after release), so some prudence is necessary.

If your company folds or is forced to pull out of the US, Japanese retail shmups will no longer have any pathway to sales here.

I doubt it's any of that. I'm leaning more towards a parity issue... we still don't have the new patch for the J-360 version yet.

[FetusZero]

o_O Good thing I checked these boards, haven't in a while and this would of went directly under my radar. I'll be pre-ordering it on PS3 whenever I can!

[Tokyo-J]

I paid full price for Akai Katana and would do the same for a USA Xbox release of Under Defeat.

I support all ports of arcade games USA / PAL / Japanese.

Just release as many as you can. Many of my friends only own Xbox 360. Releasing it only on PS3 in the USA would be a poor choice.

[FetusZero]

I paid full price for Akai Katana and would do the same for a USA Xbox release of Under Defeat.

I support all ports of arcade games USA / PAL / Japanese.

Just release as many as you can. Many of my friends only own Xbox 360. Releasing it only on PS3 in the USA would be a poor choice.

The best choice is always going multiplatform in my opinion. That way, everyone can get it on their only (or desired) console. And you can get it on whichever system the game is best optimized for, but I doubt this would change anything for arcade ports. We never know though.

If they do release it on X360 in the USA, I might pick that copy instead of PS3 simply because then my friend could log in with his own account when we play together.

[Jonathan Ingram]

I had no idea this was coming to retail in EU. For some reason I was under impression it was going to be digital only. Will be grabbing the PS3 version for sure.

[Zero Gunner]

US Xbox please. Already have both but I would rebuy the Xbox version since it wasn't region free.

Hey wait a minute?!?!?! Isn't everyone here always claiming that publishers won't license region free stuff? And yet the PS3 version, which HAS NO REGION CODING, is the one being made available in both Europe & the US. Well I guess we can clearly see that this puts the truth to the uneducated lie about publishers being unwilling to license region free games for release outside Japan...especially since the entire fucking PS3 library is region free and shit still gets licensed! Dumbasses....

[Cuilan]

Hey wait a minute?!?!?! Isn't everyone here always claiming that publishers won't license region free stuff? And yet the PS3 version, which HAS NO REGION CODING, is the one being made available in both Europe & the US. Well I guess we can clearly see that this puts the truth to the uneducated lie about publishers being unwilling to license region free games for release outside Japan...especially since the entire fucking PS3 library is region free and shit still gets licensed! Dumbasses....

Woah there, cowboy. This is the first time a PS3 shmup has ever been licensed for a retail release outside of Asia, so there was no precedent for it until now. And the rest of the PS3 library consists of genres that are far more popular (and thus far more likely to get localized) than shmups, and most of those games are far more text-heavy which renders them not very import-friendly. It's a known fact that Sony doesn't have minimum print-run rules that are as strict as Microsoft's (at least in the US), so that's probably one of the major factors at play here. I guess that's good enough for RSG to consider giving it a shot at localization, and no one knows how well it's going to perform. But even if it's a success, it's not like there are many other shmups available on the PS3 that RSG can license.

[Op Intensify]

It doesn't mention it on their site, but I heard the PS3 version of UDHD will also be released digitally in the US at launch.

[exquisite_torture]

Managed to get £40 for my Japanese PS3 Under Defeat HD. Someone's impatient. Will pick up the Xbox RSG version at Christmas or something, the cheap bastard that I am.

[FetusZero]

It doesn't mention it on their site, but I heard the PS3 version of UDHD will also be released digitally in the US at launch.

Yeah I read the same thing when checking out the game. I think it either was on Joystick or Siliconera.

Hey wait a minute?!?!?! Isn't everyone here always claiming that publishers won't license region free stuff? And yet the PS3 version, which HAS NO REGION CODING, is the one being made available in both Europe & the US. Well I guess we can clearly see that this puts the truth to the uneducated lie about publishers being unwilling to license region free games for release outside Japan...especially since the entire fucking PS3 library is region free and shit still gets licensed! Dumbasses....

Persona 4 Arena is the first region-locked game on PS3.. I doubt it'll make any difference, but this could be the beginning of something new. X360 has a lot more region free games than people tend to think as well. Maybe publishers don't like making their X360 versions region free for some reason although they can do it.

On that note, while typing this, I received my email confirmation of DoDonPachi Resurrection being shipped :]

[zendor118]

It doesn't mention it on their site, but I heard the PS3 version of UDHD will also be released digitally in the US at launch.

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Defeat-Delu ... eat+deluxe

[HydrogLox]

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Defeat-Delu ... eat+deluxe

Good grief. What is with the shipping restrictions? Akai Katana didn't have that. So I guess the hunt continues ...

[torisuRSG]

Thanks all for your support, genuinely appreciated.

[MR_Soren]

We are currently talking with MS about the USA version. At this time, please don't assume the EU version will be playable on US consoles.

Thank you. I look forward to hearing the official word; positive or not.

[Chaos Phoenixma]

Would definitely rather have on 360 than PS3.

Also really want that Mushi HD. Even more so than SDOJ.

[Op Intensify]

Would definitely rather have on 360 than PS3.

I wouldn't, because there's no guarantee the patch will ever materialize.

X360 has a lot more region free games than people tend to think as well. Maybe publishers don't like making their X360 versions region free for some reason although they can do it.

It's not that easy. You have to apply for certification in multiple regions and present a good case to Microsoft about why you think your game should be region-free. It drains time and money.

[Op Intensify]

Also, Torisu, WTF is up with the "product features" on the Amazon page?

Regarded within the shmup community as one of the all-time classic games

Both game and developer have a great reputation within the large shmup community

Is that really the best you can say about this game? That we like it?

[Cuilan]

You have to apply for certification in multiple regions and present a good case to Microsoft about why you think your game should be region-free. It drains time and money.

A tiny company like Qute seems to have no problem with it.

Just take a look at Microsoft's first-party games, some of which are region free across the board and some aren't.

You really should break the bad habit of taking everything corporations tell you so seriously.