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ReSe2k wrote:I've started watching Gundam the last couple of weeks, partially due to this thread. Started with the movie trilogy and now i'm halfway through Zeta and really enjoying it so far 8) I'm honestly surprised how well Gundam has aged both visually and story wise.
Don't hesitate to share your impressions on Zeta when you are finished with it. I personally thought the first half really was its high point.

I also recommend War in the Pocket and 08th MS Team. Those OVAs are much shorter than the main series and even better.
I have yet to watch Gundam Thunderbolt's second "season" but the first one is also amazing.
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soprano1 wrote: Best scenes I liked were the first episode Battle Royale parody, and all the scenes of the sister's father being picked by the police because he looks like a molester.
Something seems odd about the second season, only 8 episodes. Finished it a couple days ago, I felt like it could've gone 12-13 episodes like the first season. I hated to see it end, because I know the next anime I randomly picked, D-Frag, isn't nearly as funny, though after the first 2 episodes, it picks up a little.
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FinalBaton wrote:Just rewatched Patlabor : The Movie on Blu Ray. God damn that film is still awesome.

This high def release is so well done too, and is a true showcase of how beautiful the film looks : saturated tones coexist with desaturated ones in the same frame, in perfect harmony. Truly amazing color-work.

That's a humongous difference from how I've first seen it (analog cable on standard def CRT)! Blows my mind, really
Love, love the first movie. It's great. I need to sit down and watch both movies again now that I have them on BD, I just want to bring a friend along for the ride this time...

It's interesting however, if I remember correctly, that even if the movie is gorgeous (especially compared against the early OVA episodes) the character drawings aren't that hot. They're not bad, but the backgrounds and and mecha animation looked way better. Can't say much about movie 2 since it was a long while since I sat down with that one. Everyone loves it, yet I had a hard time with it because it wasn't the Patlabor I wanted it to be.
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ReSe2k wrote:I've started watching Gundam the last couple of weeks, partially due to this thread. Started with the movie trilogy and now i'm halfway through Zeta and really enjoying it so far 8) I'm honestly surprised how well Gundam has aged both visually and story wise.
Don't hesitate to share your impressions on Zeta when you are finished with it. I personally thought the first half really was its high point.

I also recommend War in the Pocket and 08th MS Team. Those OVAs are much shorter than the main series and even better.
I have yet to watch Gundam Thunderbolt's second "season" but the first one is also amazing.
Great to see somebody else embarking on the same journey as me :mrgreen:
Yes, please share your thoughts about Zeta once you're through. I agree with M.Knight that the first half was good, I really liked it and I still miss the first opening. After coming from the trilogy movies, the Zeta opening is so grand and lush. Honestly? I think it's better with the instrumental track rather than the original Japanese opening.

I'm currently dragging myself kicking and screaming through ZZ Gundam (more like Zzz Gundam, ayyy??) but the pace just picked up again...sort of. A Tomino Tragic Moment TM just happened and something has to come off it. Just watched a two-part episode called the Blue Corps or something.

Once I'm done with Double Zeta, I'll probably take a detour into the F91 Movie before embarking on Char's Counter-attack. After that, I plan to finally sit down with 0080 War in the Pocket, which has been a really long time coming.

One last thing, thanks to the Anime Nostalgia podcast I finally sat down to watch a little 50 minute OVA called "Ultimate Teacher" last weekend. It was decently funny. I always enjoy these sort of crazy stories where school has turned into some kind of local post apocalyptic hell scape ruled by delinquents. It does remind me a bit of Prefectural Earth Defense Force in atmosphere and humour, although not nearly as good.

It's not the most elegant production with it being more functionally drawn rather appealingly so, which sort of cripples it's few fan service moments although it's no big deal. It's stupid silly fun and the biggest problem is how it's more fun in the beginning than towards the end. Oh, and the theme song by Kome Kome Club is actually very catchy.
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Ji-L87 wrote: Love, love the first movie. It's great. I need to sit down and watch both movies again now that I have them on BD, I just want to bring a friend along for the ride this time...

It's interesting however, if I remember correctly, that even if the movie is gorgeous (especially compared against the early OVA episodes) the character drawings aren't that hot. They're not bad, but the backgrounds and and mecha animation looked way better. Can't say much about movie 2 since it was a long while since I sat down with that one. Everyone loves it, yet I had a hard time with it because it wasn't the Patlabor I wanted it to be.
I need to rewatch 2 as well, I barely remember it so it'll be like watching it for the first time.

Captain Goto has got to be my favourite anime character of all time. That sly old fox is a treat to watch, hehe. And he's scripted so well here. Guy is awesome!

I gave a go to the original 7 episode OVA series last year and I dropped it. There just wasn't much happening and the visuals were bad with only garish colors used and absolutely no shading on the characters(which aren't that well drawn to begin with).
I saw nothing there to hold my attention. It was 100% goofy and had no serious moments nor any tension of any sort. Not sure I want that in my Patlabor... I mean if I want goofy stuff I'll just watch me some Dirty Pair. Kei and Yuri will give me plenty of that, and then some :lol:
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FinalBaton wrote:I gave a go to the original 7 episode OVA series last year and I dropped it. There just wasn't much happening and the visuals were bad with only garish colors used and absolutely no shading on the characters(which aren't that well drawn to begin with).
I saw nothing there to hold my attention. It was 100% goofy and had no serious moments nor any tension of any sort. Not sure I want that in my Patlabor... I mean if I want goofy stuff I'll just watch me some Dirty Pair. Kei and Yuri will give me plenty of that, and then some :lol:
I personally found the OVA series a good introduction to the characters that enhances the first movie (if not a quality series in its own right, as many often claim it to be), so yours comes across as quite the bold statement, to say the least.

Have you seen the TV series? The fact that it takes place in a separate continuity has caused me to overlook it all these years, but an honest recommendation from someone here might change my mind...
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WelshMegalodon wrote: I personally found the OVA series a good introduction to the characters that enhances the first movie (if not a quality series in its own right, as many often claim it to be), so yours comes across as quite the bold statement, to say the least.

Have you seen the TV series? The fact that it takes place in a separate continuity has caused me to overlook it all these years, but an honest recommendation from someone here might change my mind...
As I stated in my post : I didn't watch the whole series! I dropped it. I only watched 2 episodes. So my statement only reflects my first impression of the little bit that I saw. Nothing more. It's definitely not my review of the series(since obviously I have not watched the whole thing, only a little bit).

You're making me curious about it though, maybe I'll start it again and watch the whole thing now
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FinalBaton wrote: I need to rewatch 2 as well, I barely remember it so it'll be like watching it for the first time.

Captain Goto has got to be my favourite anime character of all time. That sly old fox is a treat to watch, hehe. And he's scripted so well here. Guy is awesome!
Captain Goto is the highlight of Patlabor for sure :mrgreen: I love the fact that despite his scheming and his way of twisting others round his fingers to do his bidding (well, more or less) he's so laid back and accepting. He's so at home out there, in the "wilderness" of the Tokyo bay. I can't really put it in the way I want it, but he's a fun character in that he has some of the character traits you'd find perhaps in a bad evil boss guy, yet he's a good guy through and through but not in the typical righteous shounen hero way. His laid back and friendly attitude complements his competence in a perfect way, without him ever becoming boring or "overpowered".
I also love the chemistry between him and Shinobu, it's cute.
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I gave a go to the original 7 episode OVA series last year and I dropped it. There just wasn't much happening and the visuals were bad with only garish colors used and absolutely no shading on the characters(which aren't that well drawn to begin with).
I saw nothing there to hold my attention. It was 100% goofy and had no serious moments nor any tension of any sort. Not sure I want that in my Patlabor... I mean if I want goofy stuff I'll just watch me some Dirty Pair. Kei and Yuri will give me plenty of that, and then some :lol:
Now, the OVA hasn't aged as well as some people tend to say. The visuals were never that good and some episodes are more rough than others. I'm surprised the OVA gets as much praise as it does, and I'm saying that as someone who really likes it.

The first episode has both strong and weak points. The first part is great, the fighting the labor part in the latter not so much.
I personally like the 2nd episode, however from a visual perspective there's not much to write home about save for some nice city drawings. I really like Kanuka Clancy so this episode is a highlight for me from that perspective, but it's not particularly action filled.

It's after that the OVA starts dropping the ball a bit. Not everyone, including me, is going to enjoy the Godzilla spoof episode, for example. What it does show though, and it is something that will remain true for Patlabor throughout, is that you can tell a variety of different stories with Patlabor and still have it feel coherent and "in character", which is one of Patlabor's true strengths.

The best part of the OVA is the two-parter "The Longest Day of SV2" which is kind of a test run of the second movie. It's dripping with atmosphere and Goto is really played up here, so you should be able to enjoy that I think :wink:

The last episode of the OVA, episode 8, is a return to the goofy hijinks although with much improved visuals as it is a later production. I think it makes a good send-off episode for the OVA however.
WelshMegalodon wrote: I personally found the OVA series a good introduction to the characters that enhances the first movie (if not a quality series in its own right, as many often claim it to be), so yours comes across as quite the bold statement, to say the least.

Have you seen the TV series? The fact that it takes place in a separate continuity has caused me to overlook it all these years, but an honest recommendation from someone here might change my mind...
FinalBaton wrote: As I stated in my post : I didn't watch the whole series! I dropped it. I only watched 2 episodes. So my statement only reflects my first impression of the little bit that I saw. Nothing more. It's definitely not my review of the series(since obviously I have not watched the whole thing, only a little bit).

You're making me curious about it though, maybe I'll start it again and watch the whole thing now
I was surprised how much I enjoyed the TV series. The first episode is a downer with the introduction being redone and in a less stellar way, however, once the character introductions are over and done with it's back to normal.

The TV series does a good job of both having serious and silly moments, although the movies are much more serious as you'd expect. Rather, the great thing about the TV series is about having the space for the characters to come alive and have their personalities bounce against each other in interesting ways and in interesting scenarios. It's quite silly but at times also great social commentary and political satire and a great counterweight to the movies darker tone, especially movie 2 and Wasted XIII.

To me, they represent much of what Patlabor is and much of the charm it has to give and also still proves that Mamoru Oshii can be really funny if he wants to...it's just the lately he doesn't and holes himself up in the world of live action production instead.

In closing, I think some of my favorite parts of Patlabor actually is the quiet parts, focusing on the people and life in the Tokyo bay and perhaps in general. It's just great :mrgreen:
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Lord Satori wrote:What in God's name is taking the Fate/ Apocrypha fansubbers so long?! I get that these things take time, and life gets in the way, but this is getting ridiculous!
14 is out now.
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Ji-L87 wrote:Captain Goto is the highlight of Patlabor for sure :mrgreen: I love the fact that despite his scheming and his way of twisting others round his fingers to do his bidding (well, more or less) he's so laid back and accepting. He's so at home out there, in the "wilderness" of the Tokyo bay. I can't really put it in the way I want it, but he's a fun character in that he has some of the character traits you'd find perhaps in a bad evil boss guy, yet he's a good guy through and through but not in the typical righteous shounen hero way. His laid back and friendly attitude complements his competence in a perfect way, without him ever becoming boring or "overpowered".
I also love the chemistry between him and Shinobu, it's cute.
Very well articulated, I couldn't have said it better!
Ji-L87 wrote:Now, the OVA hasn't aged as well as some people tend to say. The visuals were never that good and some episodes are more rough than others. I'm surprised the OVA gets as much praise as it does, and I'm saying that as someone who really likes it.

The first episode has both strong and weak points. The first part is great, the fighting the labor part in the latter not so much.
I personally like the 2nd episode, however from a visual perspective there's not much to write home about save for some nice city drawings. I really like Kanuka Clancy so this episode is a highlight for me from that perspective, but it's not particularly action filled.

It's after that the OVA starts dropping the ball a bit. Not everyone, including me, is going to enjoy the Godzilla spoof episode, for example. What it does show though, and it is something that will remain true for Patlabor throughout, is that you can tell a variety of different stories with Patlabor and still have it feel coherent and "in character", which is one of Patlabor's true strengths.

The best part of the OVA is the two-parter "The Longest Day of SV2" which is kind of a test run of the second movie. It's dripping with atmosphere and Goto is really played up here, so you should be able to enjoy that I think :wink:

The last episode of the OVA, episode 8, is a return to the goofy hijinks although with much improved visuals as it is a later production. I think it makes a good send-off episode for the OVA however.
Nice. You and Welsh really make me wanna give the first OVA series a chance. I'll do that and report back
Ji-L87 wrote:I was surprised how much I enjoyed the TV series. The first episode is a downer with the introduction being redone and in a less stellar way, however, once the character introductions are over and done with it's back to normal.

The TV series does a good job of both having serious and silly moments, although the movies are much more serious as you'd expect. Rather, the great thing about the TV series is about having the space for the characters to come alive and have their personalities bounce against each other in interesting ways and in interesting scenarios. It's quite silly but at times also great social commentary and political satire and a great counterweight to the movies darker tone, especially movie 2 and Wasted XIII.

To me, they represent much of what Patlabor is and much of the charm it has to give and also still proves that Mamoru Oshii can be really funny if he wants to...it's just the lately he doesn't and holes himself up in the world of live action production instead.

In closing, I think some of my favorite parts of Patlabor actually is the quiet parts, focusing on the people and life in the Tokyo bay and perhaps in general. It's just great :mrgreen:
Haven't watch the TV series at all. will peep it for sure
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FinalBaton wrote:Nice. You and Welsh really make me wanna give the first OVA series a chance. I'll do that and report back
If nothing else, since you already know the cast by now, give episodes 5-6 a gander. I'll shut up for now :mrgreen:
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Started on To LOVE-Ru, normally not a huge fan of harem anime, but this one has a Ursei Yatsura vibe to it, must be the alien chick (though the main guy, Rito is no Ataru, or womanizer). It looks to be long as well, though nowhere the length of Urusei Yatsura.
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Watched the OVA adaptation of Kaoru Shintani's Suna no Bara/Desert Rose (the guy behind Area 88). Good stuff, highly recommended.
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I'm just happy to see Gintama back, and back in humor form.
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I've read all (10) volumes of Inuyashiki in one go. Brilliant manga, almost compensates for the giant turn Gantz was. Not gonna spoil anything, so go read it.
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Started watching Ojamajo Doremi after being pestered to watch it.
and I'm kind of bothered at how decent it's been :lol:
I'm on episode 15 now, quality has tapered off a bit from the first couple of episodes, both in terms of writing and animation, but it's still surprisingly good.

Apparently, some of the episodes get pretty heavy and it deals with some serious topics [ones that you wouldn't expect a literal kids show to hit on], but things have been fairly light-hearted so far.
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KAI wrote:I've read all (10) volumes of Inuyashiki in one go. Brilliant manga, almost compensates for the giant turn Gantz was.
I only read Gantz up to the third mission, but I liked it. Guess it gets crappy later on.
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I recommend just watching Gantz Abridged. It really ends at the apex of the story. Better to go out on a high note, then having Literal Exposition God tell you jeezers is real.

The bonus special Filler Ending is absolutely incredible.
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null1024 wrote:Started watching Ojamajo Doremi after being pestered to watch it.
and I'm kind of bothered at how decent it's been :lol:
I'm on episode 15 now, quality has tapered off a bit from the first couple of episodes, both in terms of writing and animation, but it's still surprisingly good.

Apparently, some of the episodes get pretty heavy and it deals with some serious topics [ones that you wouldn't expect a literal kids show to hit on], but things have been fairly light-hearted so far.
The first OP song is catchy as hell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS-HWwRdafg
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soprano1 wrote: The first OP song is catchy as hell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS-HWwRdafg
It really is. :lol:
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Ok, I watched the Patlabor OVAs, and I gotta say : it had me entertained, not as bad as I had pictured them to be. Some decent moments throughout. Hated the Godzilla spoof episode though. lol.

Watching the series helped fill out the universe and introduced the formation of the SV2 Labor Patrol unit, which is nice. One thing that got me confused though, is the ending of the 6th episode(the REAL series ending) :
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Kai gets arrested before the missile is launched. Yet he says "But if you survive, there's always tomorrow", and smirks. So they kinda paint him as the victor here. But what's up with that? he just got caught... he's no winner. I don't get what they're hinting at. Unless it's just a vague "crime never sleeps" call? Maybe I'm reading too much into that...

Btw I thought it was interesting that Goto used to work for the vilain. That made him even more complex and mysterious, lol. They only mentionned that Goto was his "student", but if we read between the lines... that means that Goto used to share his beliefs! before rejecting them and choosing the opposite path and joining the cops. That's my theory anyway. lol. Now : is Kai's terrorist actions an independant effort? Or is he part of the communists(they are mentionned quite a few times in the series)? That I couldn't figure out.
Here's something I hated though : the poor quality of character drawings in most of the series. Ughhh *shudders* I really have a hard time not getting annoyed by that. It's not that it was an old style or not super solid : I'm perfectly fine with '80s and even '70s styles even when they're loosely constructed. As long as they have some panache, then I'm good. No... here it's just so damn amateur. reminds me of some people I knew in art school who couldn't draw worth shit and were talking about anime all the damn time and they would draw these lifeless, abominations of anime characters.

Oh well. I managed to put aside my disdain of the series' poor character drawings, for the most part. And I'm glad I did. It was still worth it in the end.
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Megazone 23

If you are into 80s-90s anime this one is interesting.

It is split into "parts" so it suffers from the multi-year production times between them + fast froward in time story telling. It also has some big plot holes and weak tie ins with the first part.

With all these issues, why would I recommend it? Well because THIS is a major influence for many anime and movies.

If anyone is a fan of the Matrix, there is one line (there are others) that instantly had me asking "Matrix?" after hearing it. Zero doubt that this WAS the "inspiration" for that series (even if the Wack bros/sis? deny it).

Anyway it deserves at least one viewing.
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FinalBaton wrote:Ok, I watched the Patlabor OVAs, and I gotta say : it had me entertained, not as bad as I had pictured them to be. Some decent moments throughout. Hated the Godzilla spoof episode though. lol.

Watching the series helped fill out the universe and introduced the formation of the SV2 Labor Patrol unit, which is nice. One thing that got me confused though, is the ending of the 6th episode(the REAL series ending) *spoiler cut here*

Here's something I hated though : the poor quality of character drawings in most of the series. Ughhh *shudders* I really have a hard time not getting annoyed by that. It's not that it was an old style or not super solid : I'm perfectly fine with '80s and even '70s styles even when they're loosely constructed. As long as they have some panache, then I'm good. No... here it's just so damn amateur. reminds me of some people I knew in art school who couldn't draw worth shit and were talking about anime all the damn time and they would draw these lifeless, abominations of anime characters.

Oh well. I managed to put aside my disdain of the series' poor character drawings, for the most part. And I'm glad I did. It was still worth it in the end.
Yeah, like I said the OVAs really look surprisingly rough in the character art department, sort of vague and blob-ish, which even does sort of seep into the first movie. At least early on.
It's surprising just how more solid the 90s TV series is visually in comparison.

I don't know what's up at the end of episode 6 either, looks I need to sit down with that one again soon :mrgreen: And yes, the Godzilla-spoof is the weakest of the bunch IMO but, bad as it is, it still has a few good moments. I'm happy when Shige gets some screen time, I quite enjoy the guy.
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It's fun how each installment in the Megazone saga is so radically different from each other. I remember on an old episode of Anncast (the best of the 80s one) where they made the point that perhaps it's impossible to love both part I and II equally as they're just so different and speak to a different audience that you just sorta got to have some preference between the two.

It's been some time since I last saw the whole of Megazone (saw it for the first time probably 6 or so years ago) but it's really interesting going through. I felt that Part 1's tone was a bit over the place with the super 80s pop visuals clashing with some darker story moments (good music tho') and the jump to part 2 was so surprising because it's such a different visual style, although super cool to look at.

Everyone seems to hate Part 3 but I really like watching the beginning of the first episode for it's delightfully cyberpunk late 80s/early 90s futuristic vision. That computer terminal with the disc loader is just so cool :mrgreen:
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It's fun how each installment in the Megazone saga is so radically different from each other. I remember on an old episode of Anncast (the best of the 80s one) where they made the point that perhaps it's impossible to love both part I and II equally as they're just so different and speak to a different audience that you just sorta got to have some preference between the two.

It's been some time since I last saw the whole of Megazone (saw it for the first time probably 6 or so years ago) but it's really interesting going through. I felt that Part 1's tone was a bit over the place with the super 80s pop visuals clashing with some darker story moments (good music tho') and the jump to part 2 was so surprising because it's such a different visual style, although super cool to look at.

Everyone seems to hate Part 3 but I really like watching the beginning of the first episode for it's delightfully cyberpunk late 80s/early 90s futuristic vision. That computer terminal with the disc loader is just so cool :mrgreen:
I do prefer part 1, mainly because it is all over the place. With it's idea of big brother + computer controlling humanity + resetting humanity to it's pinnacle (80's because 85) + mankind at war with itself + ruining earth and going off for a new home + more. They cramped in so much.

It is always fun to see the earlier cyberpunk anime and seeing all the gadgets they believed would look like and old tech they thought was going to stick around in that far future.
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Just rewatched 2 Satoshi Urushihara anime on VHS : Plastic Little and Legend of Lemnear.
(My setup is a Sony SVO-1620 deck run through an NEC XM37 Plus crt monitor. I have to say, this is the best I have ever seen VHS look. The picture quality is actually decent, it's definitely enjoyable.)

I didn't think much of Plastic Little first time I've watched it, but I enjoyed it more this time around. I thought it was fun (and not just because of the well-drawn tits, lol). It's an entertaining enough ride. Film is pretty short too, which I like. Character interaction is definitely at the forefront, with the plot/action at the background(despite some high stakes/crazy stuff and heavy action happening). I recommend it for a casual viewing.

My opinion hasn't changend on Legend of Lemnear though. I didn't like it when I watched it last year, and I still don't like it now. It's just not well directed. The flow is incredibly offbeat, story development is all over the place, and I just cannot care for what happens to these characters. It's a jumbled mess. It has some interesting stuff going on, but not enough.
Funny thing is that I'm actually nostalgic for the film. I saw it in my early teens on Teletoon, when they used to show anime on Friday nights in their first years(any canadan here remember that?). This is when I first got into anime. So I want to film to be good! But sadly, it is not...

On a side note : I didn't know that Urushihara was a key animator on G1 Transformers(!) and Akira. Nor that he contributed character design and artwork for Assault Suits Valken and to most of the Langrisser and Growlanser series.(those last two are probably common knowledge tho). Man can that guy ever draw girls (no wonder he did quite a few hentai). He has such a lush drawing style too

One last thing : I really like seeing those trailers at the beginning of anime tapes. It's a great time capsule and they're cool pieces of video too. I might capture some and upload them to Youtube at some point...
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Dies Irae has some great music and weird magical Nazis, but the story seems weird as fuck. This was a VN, wasn't it?
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FinalBaton wrote:Just rewatched 2 Satoshi Urushihara anime on VHS : Plastic Little and Legend of Lemnear.
(My setup is a Sony SVO-1620 deck run through an NEC XM37 Plus crt monitor. I have to say, this is the best I have ever seen VHS look. The picture quality is actually decent, it's definitely enjoyable.)

I didn't think much of Plastic Little first time I've watched it, but I enjoyed it more this time around. I thought it was fun (and not just because of the well-drawn tits, lol). It's an entertaining enough ride. Film is pretty short too, which I like. Character interaction is definitely at the forefront, with the plot/action at the background(despite some high stakes/crazy stuff and heavy action happening). I recommend it for a casual viewing.
Haha, I've been thinking of revisiting Plastic Little for the last year or so, now I had a reason to finally do it :mrgreen:
It's a title that is, without a doubt, super pretty but also kind of a hot mess. Crucial information regarding world building is not handled well, Elysse drops an info dump quite late into the film but by then it's too late and to little. In general there are tons of little things that are off with the pacing and storytelling. Like this really was supposed to be double the length or something.

There is a lot of talk about it taking place on a colony, that there are other planets the crew travel to etc, however nothing of this is ever shown. We never get to see the whole planet/colony they're on and what kind of place it's supposed to be. I don't get how the secret underground military (literary in this case) thinks it's a good idea destroying the civilian surface level or what their deal is in regards to anything. They're so one sidedly evil just for the sake of it.

The soundtrack is fine albeit a little nondescript. I think Plastic Little works best as a showcase of what this Urushihara guy is all about and from that perspective it's pretty great. I mean, you've got his particular drawing style down a T (lol glossy people), cool and off-beat mechanical design, visually attractive and distinct cast and better animated boobs than most hentai. Except, you know, for those that he worked on... :mrgreen:
FinalBaton wrote: On a side note : I didn't know that Urushihara was a key animator on G1 Transformers(!) and Akira. Nor that he contributed character design and artwork for Assault Suits Valken and to most of the Langrisser and Growlanser series.(those last two are probably common knowledge tho). Man can that guy ever draw girls (no wonder he did quite a few hentai). He has such a lush drawing style too
I think his art style is really quite recognizable, for better or worse. Just like Sonoda Kenichi, his style suffered a bit when transitioning to digital I felt, however some recent illustrations I've seen look much better, even if I still prefer his older work. They just look better when the shapes are a bit more round, especially the faces. As for stuff he's worked on, I really love episode 7 of BGC, it's like everything has become just a bit prettier.
FinalBaton wrote:One last thing : I really like seeing those trailers at the beginning of anime tapes. It's a great time capsule and they're cool pieces of video too. I might capture some and upload them to Youtube at some point...
True, I know what you mean. When I get a capture device one day, there are some cool logo animations and ads I want to capture from some of my laserdiscs. For example, on the first episode of Birdy The Mighty there is an anime ad for Ja ja Uma Grooming Up!, another Masami Yuki work, which never actually got an anime adaption so that's cool. I mean, it's really short and barely animated at all but it's still cool 8)
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Ji-L87 wrote:Crucial information regarding world building is not handled well
Man, if you tought this aspect was subpar in Plastic Little, you're gonna flip out when you watch Legend of Lemnear! The world-building in that one is... non-existant.

But I agree that there's not enough of it in PL. More background info on Elyse and her dad (and the company he works for, ffs) would've been nice.
Ji-L87 wrote: I think his art style is really quite recognizable, for better or worse. Just like Sonoda Kenichi, his style suffered a bit when transitioning to digital I felt, however some recent illustrations I've seen look much better, even if I still prefer his older work. They just look better when the shapes are a bit more round, especially the faces. As for stuff he's worked on, I really love episode 7 of BGC, it's like everything has become just a bit prettier.
I'm talking about his '90s hand painted stuff.
I haven't seen his later stuff, I take your word for it.

Also kenichi Sonoda still does hand painted art from time to time (see his contributions to AnimEigo remasters) and it's still fucking DOPE. Guy's still got it
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FinalBaton wrote:I'm talking about his '90s hand painted stuff.
I haven't seen his later stuff, I take your word for it.

Also kenichi Sonoda still does hand painted art from time to time (see his contributions to AnimEigo remasters) and it's still fucking DOPE. Guy's still got it
Agreed, Sonoda's contributions to AnimEigo's kickstarters have been stellar. It's more that I find his style around the 2000s to be not at all in line with why I liked his earlier stuff, subtle differences perhaps but consistent throughout. The stuff he did for AnimEigo looks different yet again, however the hand drawn nature of it is incredible pleasing - really liked what he did for Riding Bean.

In the end, I just care too much the stylistic visual aspect of aspect of anime and manga a little too much, to the point of friends jokingly called me a "drawing style fascist" which is likely more accurate than I care to admit. :oops:
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Ji-L87 wrote:Crucial information regarding world building is not handled well
Man, if you tought this aspect was subpar in Plastic Little, you're gonna flip out when you watch Legend of Lemnear! The world-building in that one is... non-existant.

But I agree that there's not enough of it in PL. More background info on Elyse and her dad (and the company he works for, ffs) would've been nice.
Thinking about it, it's not so much the fact it's not there that bugs me but rather the way it's mostly tell - don't show. I think it's entirely possible that PL could have even less world building and get away with it adventure romp OVA style. For example, since it doesn't look like it's taking place on a colony (and the battle takes place under water...I think?) they could omit talking about that and it would not have a negative effect because they're not doing anything important with the colony and space aspect of it anyway, aside from the mention of "gravity belts", which again is pretty vague. It feels more like trying to justify the different set pieces they wanted in there.

Well, that is my take on it anyhow. :mrgreen:

I will give Lemnear a go at some point as I.....acquired it some time ago and never got to it.
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