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I'm looking forward to making an Awoken Bastet team myself. It's still up in the air, but I'm thinking of going with

Awoken Bastet - Liu Bei - Vishnu - Awoken Meimei - Verdandi - Awoken Bastet {Awoken Ceres and Kushinadahime as flex options for bind management and defense}

This team will have 6 Time Extend awakenings, which should make it pretty comfortable to fully activate Bastet's leader skill. Awoken Bastet's active skill also grants an additional 2 seconds of orb movement time. It's also immune to skill lock, has 100% wood orb enhance, and is fairly resistant (80%) to poison. The main downside is that Awoken Bastet is heavily reliant on having access to fast active skills, so I'll need to max-skill everyone; Awoken Bastet and Awoken Meimei will both need a pile of Woodpys. :?
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Godfest starts this weekend:

Day one has Egyptian series 1 gods and archdemons, while day 2 has three kingdom gods and series 2 Angels.

Only have enough stones for one roll, and I'm not sure which day I want to gamble on...
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Damned, those 3kingdoms come back again. I want Liu Bei, Cao Cao, DQXQ, Sun Quan, Red Sonia, Kalis, Urd, Skuld, Metatrons, Zhuge Liang, plus the midnight gala involves Persephone, Pandora, Haku, Dark Valk, Hanzo, Chester, all those monsters I can use !
I think I'll roll on the second day.

Talking about Awoken Bastet, I could also make him. Isn't his leader skill a bit disappointing ? I mean 4x ATK for 7 combos looks kind of hard to fulfill, DQXQ looks better, no ?
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I'm gonna abstain from this godfest, even though I could really use Sun Quan.
Talking about Awoken Bastet, I could also make him. Isn't his leader skill a bit disappointing ? I mean 4x ATK for 7 combos looks kind of hard to fulfill, DQXQ looks better, no ?
First of all, it's a her! You don't get much more feminine than Bastet. She's actually much, much better than DQXQ. You can hit 36x if you run a primarily green team thanks to the additional 1.5x on each lead on any turn a skill is used. Also, she has two time extend awakenings which means you're working with, at the very least, 2 extra seconds of movement time AND and active that adds 2 more seconds so consistent 7 combos becomes much more reasonable, and she's even got a nice fallback ATK multiplier if you only manage 5 or 6. You can reach 100% poison resist trivially since 80% is already covered by leads. TPA all day long. And finally, you can combo anything without worrying about multi-color coverage which is the real difficulty of most of the other Egyptians. She's one of the best cards out there, but watch out for binds!

Look for my hypermaxed Awoken Ra within 10 minutes of the Sphinx dungeon dropping today.
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Gwah, once again it seems I cant judge cards very well. I remember also thinking that red sonia was not that good...
Anyway, i’ll try and get a Sphinx too, what shall my team look like with ABastet lead ?
ABastet / Verdandi / Verdandi / Cu Chu / Cu Chu / ABastet ?

Loks like brainless enough for my playstyle, but requires at least 5 combos to trigger big damages.
Also, replace a dupe with the forthcoming Liu Bei this sunday.
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well I cleared sphinx descended legend on my first try (just barely though! I was going to die in one hit, and unless I lined up the results of ronia's board change perfectly the sphinx would have just absorbed the blow and killed me), but no drop :(

Edit: ran it a second time and got the drop! Also this is the first time I've been able to clear a real descended without continuing! Actually I just did it twice in a row!
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I haven't had a chance to run Sphinx yet because I was running Friday Expert for Dub-topalits all day. I'm in endless TAMADRA evolution hell. :cry: I might try later though. Awoken Sopdet on Mythical worries me, so I might end up bringing an Echidna just in case.

EDIT: Okay so Legend was pretty easy and Echidna wasn't necessary; Awoken Thoth was more annoying. No drop, so I'll try Mythical later.
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Aisha wrote:I was running Friday Expert for Dub-topalits all day. I'm in endless TAMADRA evolution hell. :cry:
Damn you're courageous. I now refuse to run daily dungeons when they are not at 2x drop rate, too much disappoint.

Here, Sphinx dropped on my first Legend run, better than hermit :wink:
I also see that Necro already has one max skilled Awoken Bastet, you had 4 Piis waiting for him ?
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Just got a light Kali with my roll!

I don't know much about her, but apparently she's really good!
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Woohoo, big congrats, this gal is a beast. X6 multi, double tpa, great active, and necro has an hyper maxed one for support. You know who yuour next leader is.
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Light Kali is indeed very, very good -- both as a leader and as a sub. She could be that leader who enables you to break through the Mythical barrier for many descends. The way I see it, is you've now got your Lu Bu devil team for farming, and light Kali for more challenging content. You have Sun Quan, who is one of the best subs for Kali, and light Metatron, who will help with binds. The challenge is to find something with a dark attribute that ideally has an active skill that actually benefits the team somehow. My preference for this is dark Izanami, but you have to get her from an obnoxious descend.

Edit: Sphinx Mythical cleared. Very easy. None of my teams can clear Medjedra so Awoken Bastet will have to wait, but it's not like I don't have any other teams to work on in the meantime.
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Well it's 4 in the morning, and I have horrible back and neck pain from a pool party, so I can't sleep. I decided I might as well use up my stamina bar, so I successfully ran Hera Ur legend and got the drop!

Also I tried to do weekend dungeon legend but I forgot it was tricolor only and I was using a monodark team, so that stamina was wasted.
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Godfest rolls, had 10 stones spare, and bought 30 more :

- Zuoh
- Anubis
- Ur-Chimera
- Naga
- Light Metatron
- Green Zhuge Liang
- Sticker Girl Kano
- Grimrock, this had to end like this to celebrate Hermit's yesterday luck !

Good rolls, especially that GZL.
No 3K cards though, I might IAP again to get one. Please prevent me from doing so and help me focus on the thousands of good teams I can form now...
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Well the PEM finally dropped an angelit for me.

Thing is, now I'm not sure if I should use it on my Leilan like planned, or use it for light metatron. Or maybe take a third option? Baal? Wait for a second angelit to get attacker Lilith?

I would have just immediately used it on Leilan to bring my attacker team and Leilan teams online, but it came to my attention that in the Japanese version there's now an awoken Leilan that's also an attacker.
Then again that won't be out in NA for awhile I would think, and it requires two conditional descend bosses along with 3 fire jewels.

What do you guys think?
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guigui wrote:I also see that Necro already has one max skilled Awoken Bastet, you had 4 Piis waiting for him ?
I max skilled Awoken Horus, Awoken Bastet, and Awoken Ra immediately. I had been saving my piis up for this.

I've been practicing Awoken Ra a lot since Sphinx emerged. The team is everything that I had hoped for, but I am still desperate for Isis' awoken form to truly complete it. Until then I'm running only 2/3 Kalis which makes him considerably less consistent.

@cave hermit It is going to be very difficult for you to get the 3 fire jewels you need, I think, and by the time you do you should have no trouble getting additional Angelits. Eventually you're gonna have to farm Angelits in the dozens as skill up fodder for that nice new LKali you rolled.
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So for the time being I should just invest in that divine harbinger leilan I've been waiting on for awhile?

Sacred texts metatron doesn't seem worth it: one additional skill boost, a marginal increase to hp and attack, and that's about it for the positives. Not to mention there's a massively increased team cost :/
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guigui wrote: Please prevent me from [buying stones] and help me focus on the thousands of good teams I can form now...

instead of spending your hard earned cash to gamble for even more team possibilities despite the fact you already have thousands, you could buy a ton of pain au chocolat in bulk, then you could eat them while working on building your existing teams!
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cave hermit wrote:
guigui wrote: Please prevent me from [buying stones] and help me focus on the thousands of good teams I can form now...

instead of spending your hard earned cash to gamble for even more team possibilities despite the fact you already have thousands, you could buy a ton of pain au chocolat in bulk, then you could eat them while working on building your existing teams!
Nice advice ! Although stones are already bought, shame. Rolls are currently being made and 2 of them gave shit for the time being.
I'll be sure to buy pain au chocolat though, those will grease my fingers and I love to slide them on my PAD screen then, yummi !

About your Angelit dilemma, if I were to give it to someone, I would choose LMeta over Leilan.
Unless you have a plan for an attacker team including Leilan that would help you clear Friday Mythical ? In which case your Angelit will yield more angelits, which is good.

In the end I think I'd keep it for now and focus and forming an LKali team, maybe you shall find a sub that needs that Angelit, and maybe LMeta is that sub.
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Sorry double post, rolls for the 30 more stones I bought :

- Tiamat, second one, dont know what to do with him
- Titan, second one
- Thanatos, second one
- Verdandi, third one !
- GZL, second one !
- Green Mystic Knight

Not as good as earlier rolls. I'll consolate myself with those 4 TPAs I rolled today, and focus on a green TPA team, I currently have :
Bastet
GZL x2
Verdandi x3
Cu Chulain
Zhang Fei
Artemis
God Canopus
You guys say Awoken Bastet will be the best leader in here ?
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So here's my current idea for a Light Kali team:

Light kali (of course)
Voice of God Metatron
Soaring Dragon General Sun Quan
Flare Drall
Ebon Sorcerer Dill Sirius


Light Metatron and Dragon General Sun Quan were both suggested earlier, I put in Flare Drall since he can convert the useless green orbs to hearts, and I put in Ebon Sorcerer since he has a simple orb change (right most column to dark orbs on a 9 turn cooldown). Plus, ebon sorcerer has a healer subtype and thus benefits from Sun Quan's active.

Even with two of the subs (flare drall and ebon sorcerer) being... sub-par and thus having low team costs, I still need 19 more team cost points (my current limit is 166) in order to accommodate Light Kali's ult evoution in this lineup.

For future reference when I have more team cost points, what would be good replacements for flare drall and ebon sorcerer in this lineup?

Also, I still don't understand the benefit of ult-evolving Light Metatron to Keeper of the sacred texts: all it seems to do is add an additional skill boost awakening, 100 hp points, and 50 attack points. Is there something I'm missing here? I get that the leader skill becomes much better, but it seems you guys are recommending I ult-evolve her even as a sub.

Edit: I will need to rank up 19 more times in order to accommodate ult evolved light Kali with this lineup. :(
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I'd say this is a pretty nice setup to start with Lkali.
Dont you have a Light Valkirie to fit in, maybe instead of Flare Drall ?
Seeing things this way with LMeta as a sub, it is indeed true that spending Angelit to evolve her is not that necessary.
Also, you can aim to get an Athena from her descend. It is doable if you manage orbs correctly. Evolving her to double TPA form is a pain though, due to jewels needed, not mentionning the Angelit !

Also, this thread might help. Long but good infos in here.

About the missing team cost, did you cleared normal dungeons up to Starlight Sanctuary ? If not, I think you should. The dungeon King of the Gods in Starlight Sanctuary gives about 13000 xp for 17 stamina, and I think you can farm it with your devil team. You'll rank up like pie.
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Thanks for the link, I'll take a look at it later.

I might put in the valkyrie instead of the drall now that you mention it; my reasoning was that the drall would make some use out of the otherwise useless green orbs, but it would probably be a better idea to strengthen the light attack output. Plus she's a healer so she can also take advantage of sun quan's active.

Also the last normal dungeon I unlocked happened to be starlight sanctuary, so I'll look into working through it...
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The family and I went out of town for the weekend so I didn't get a whole lot of playtime in over the past few days. I did manage to run the Sphinx descend enough to get the necessary materials for Awoken Horus which will be nice because he's pretty much collected dust since I rolled him awhile back. His R/D attributes and devil subtype make him another pretty solid Ronia sub. I also had enough stones for 4 rolls:

Salamander
Sun Deity Ra
Holy Knight Arcline
Liu Bei

All in all not too bad I suppose.
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Liu Bei, so jealoooooous ! Did not get a single 3K in 14 rolls.
cave hermit wrote: Also the last normal dungeon I unlocked happened to be starlight sanctuary, so I'll look into working through it...
Nice. Get up there. Hera level might give some trouble, beware of her.
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Ra, Arcline, and Liu Bei are very good pulls; congrats. I didn't fare so well this Godfest: Archangel Lucifer #4, Apocalypse #3, Ganesha #2, and DQXQ #2. I suppose the bright spot is that now I no longer have to choose between DQ and XQ should I opt to do anything with them. I wanted a second Liu Bei for my Verdandi team. I should try to resist the REM in the future so that I can save my stones for Kanna's NA debut.

I echo using Valkyrie for light Kali; especially her final form. She isn't an optimal sub, but she'll make more light orbs which will help you trigger TPAs, which have a tremendous impact on Kali's damage output. Dark is a tougher attribute to cover. Dill Sirius is okay, but you have to be careful not to brick the board with his active skill. My preference is dark Izanami because Kali teams typically have low HP, so they will be one-shot in many Mythical situations. Not only will dark Izanami's active skill help prevent that, but she also has something like 5000 HP herself. Dark Kali and dark Metatron are often the preferred REM choices, but they're extremely rare. There are other dark options as well, but they aren't coming to me at the moment.
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How are you guys doing on the current set of challenges? I just have C10 left, and I'm 9/9 so far thanks to Awoken Ra. I'm playing with natural stamina only so it's super nerve-racking. I've studied what I'm up against in C10 and it is certainly possible for me to go 10/10 with no stone usage at all, but realistically I'm probably looking at 1-2 stones used unless I get lucky with board setups that can be fully activated early on. If I have to blow my LKalis too early I'll be completely boned in the later floors since everything just does so much damage per hit. I really think the reward should be better for C10 like it often is for the final level of the Descended Challenges. Throw in a Noel dragon or two with that pii or something. Anything!
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I cleared up through Challenge 6, which thankfully rewarded a Woodpy, which I need a pile of for Awoken Ceres, Bastet, and Meimei. :? I haven't decided if I want to try Challenge 7; I think I can clear it relatively easily but it's 70 stamina that I think I'd rather spend elsewhere at the moment. The ones after are out of my league. Hopefully my upcoming teams will allow me to clear those and other end-game content like rushes.
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I was able to clear challenge 5 last time, but this time I can't seem to output enough damage.
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I actually managed to go 10/10 this challenge set. Awoken Ra is truly incredible! No losses, no continues, no stone usage whatsoever. Lots of close calls, but I managed to one-shot everything. So satisfying!

I really wanted to beat Hera Rush tonight before it goes away, but unfortunately it is impossible with my Ra team, due to Beorc's Photosynthesis skill, and I don't have any other teams that can reliably clear it right now. I might be able to throw together an Awoken Bastet team that could do the job, but I'd rather not risk the 99 stamina. Maybe I'll just grab a few rainbow keepers instead. You never can have too many rainbow keepers.
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Necronopticous wrote:I really wanted to beat Hera Rush tonight before it goes away, but unfortunately it is impossible with my Ra team, due to Beorc's Photosynthesis skill
I think you might have been able to do it. The game applies damage from primary attributes first. It goes from left to right, then it loops back and applies damage from sub-attributes in the same order. Assuming that the Awoken Ra team you would have used is the same as the one you linked to here, all of its light damage is packed into the primary attributes. It would have all been absorbed before the sub-attributes took their turn. Awoken Ra is so powerful that sub-attributes doing 30% of 100x ATK multiplied by elemental advantage (fire) would have probably been enough to take out Hera-Beorc's ~3.8M HP.

Basically like this: https://youtu.be/B5qLMITXgW8?t=254

Although there are examples where this logic doesn't seem to apply, like here. Nobody is really sure what causes this to happen.
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