Fudoh's ode to old display technology

[Fudoh]

haha, yes, indeed. But to be fair, I bid on it yesterday already and I certainly can't forbid anyone to participate.

[cools]

Scored a PVM-1453MD Not amazingly cheap but looks to be in good condition, and it's definitely a good upgrade for my old 1370QM assuming it survives shipping.

And before it's even arrived I've sourced some 20" PVM medical grade... I'll be replacing furniture with CRTs soon at this rate.

[Fudoh]

BVMs are PVMs are so easily stackable

[Necronopticous]

[snkforever]

Hey guys, Great forum! I recently picked up a D20F1U and had a question. Is there a way to reset the password for the extended menus?

[Lawfer]

Found this auction.. It does look quite lovely.

sorry, that's gonna be my secondary. Local pickup only 15 minutes from where I live - can't let that slide

Good luck that unit looks completly mint.

[Fudoh]

Hey guys, Great forum! I recently picked up a D20F1U and had a question. Is there a way to reset the password for the extended menus?

I think there's a generic code available which allows to you access the menus. You can call the Sony Pro service about that. They'll know and your monitor is still supported.

Good luck that unit looks completly mint.

nevertheless 23,000 hours on it.

[Lawfer]

nevertheless 23,000 hours on it.

Still very much worth it if you get lucky and get it for 1 Euro.

[fagin]

Lol - he won't get that for 1 euro!

[Fudoh]

I wouldn't expect so

[ikari_01]

nevertheless 23,000 hours on it.

Hum, the seller didn't bother to answer my question about the operating time... did you bribe him already?

[Fudoh]

I phoned him.

[snkforever]

Hey guys, Great forum! I recently picked up a D20F1U and had a question. Is there a way to reset the password for the extended menus?

I think there's a generic code available which allows to you access the menus. You can call the Sony Pro service about that. They'll know and your monitor is still supported.

Thanks man! That worked perfect. I found the manual here http://www.panavision.com/sites/default ... Manual.pdf if anyone needs it. The reset code was 9999.

I have another question. I was trying to get my NES connected yesterday and it only displayed in black and white. I figured it was because the input was set for YPBPR so I tried to set it for composite but I could not select it. The options for composite and YC were colored blue and not selectable. Is there something else I need to do first to be able to select composite? Is this even how I need to connect a composite signal? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Fudoh]

The standard connection board (the one on the right), does not have a composite decoder. You need a 21D or similar board to connect a composite source.

[snkforever]

I also have a 20D and a 41HD. Would either of those work?

[Fudoh]

no, you need one marked with a "double ring" in the table on pages 7/8 of the manual.

[jdubs]

Didn't somebody mention that a t-connector is enough to get RGBHV running on the 480p sets ? Or was 480p input limited to YPbPr ?

That was me, and yeah 480p works for RGB and component. I have managed to get RGB 480p to work using a T-connector.

Guys, what is a t-connector in this context?

-Jim

[RGB32E]

Didn't somebody mention that a t-connector is enough to get RGBHV running on the 480p sets ? Or was 480p input limited to YPbPr ?

That was me, and yeah 480p works for RGB and component. I have managed to get RGB 480p to work using a T-connector.

Guys, what is a t-connector in this context?

-Jim

It's for connecting H & V Sync signals together when only composite sync input is available. It's the crudest way to combine syncs.

[jdubs]

Cool, thanks. I'm shocked that actually works.

-Jim

[andykara2003]

Hi Fudoh - love the post Just thought I'd say,from what I've seen so far of the XRGB looks amazing on everything with clean, defined pixels but to me, the scanlines on the N64 in the video's/pics I've seen just don't look as natural and authentic as they do on my PVM. Do you think it's because of the N64's excessive anti aliasing?

Cheers, Andy

[andykara2003]

About the appearance of the shadow mask or aperature grill on the BVM.

In those photos I see an image that is very similar to what I've seen from Sony Trinitron PC monitors in 120hz modes, or the various PVM models I've owned. A razor sharp, thickly scanlined image. Not that this is a bad thing but...

IMO I've always preferred the smoother, slightly blurrier graphics that come from older CRT tech, such as those that used dot triads or chromaclear rather than stripes. On those it seemed like the scanlines were not nearly as delineated. It's not as if you're actually losing detail at 240p. All the pixels are there and easily counted, it's just that the black scanlines between them are not as apparent.

However, from what I gather you're saying that the overly scanlined effect you would get from a Sony PC CRT monitor is not there? How can that be when this monitor has such an extremely fine pitch?

Note: all the references to PC monitors assume running in true 240p modes at double the vertical scan rate.

Here's an example from a thread at BYOAC on the subject

old hantarex 9110

old Mitsubishi AM-3501R

newer m2c

modern 21" CRT PC monitor


Is it possible you could post up a pic of this R from R-type Leo for comparision?

Hi - this is to anyone who knows about this sort of thing - I tried without success to contact Jack_from_BYOAC about this

I was really pleased to find this post as I'm looking for a monitor that can display a 240p image without prominent scanlines. I have a PVM2730QM at the moment and I love it, but I'm looking for something that can smooth the scanlines out a bit. I'm using an RGB modded US N64. As the N64 graphics are a bit blurry anyway, this dot triad or chromaclear method might work better with the image a a whole anyway..

What I would love to find is a 25 -27 inch monitor (or close - 29 inch is too big, anything smaller is too small) which is based on this dot triad or chromaclear technology (or anything else?) that is not so old and used that it's nearing the end of it's life.

I am set on using a genuine CRT and not newer tech that simulates it

Could anyone give me any info on this?

Thanks, Andrew

[burgerkingdiamond]

Hey Fudoh,
I just picked up that BVM monitor (J-region) for a steal (2000Y) but it didn't come with the remote board. Do you know if this remote (US-region) is compatible?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-BKM-10R-RE ... 1c2f5de24d

Also, do you know if the input modules are compatible with different region monitors? What do I need to hook up a console to the RGB BNC connections? Can I use a SCART to BNC adapter or does it need to be Japanese RGB to BNC? (sorry I don't know much about this stuff, but I know I've heard that there is some difference between the SCART standard and Japanese RGB cables)

[Fudoh]

The US control units work on european units - that's all I know. The inputs modules are certainly compatible.

If you need a JP21 to BNC or a Scart to BNC adapter depends on the types of RGB cables you own, not the monitor.

[cools]

Could anyone give me any info on this?

Here's Leo on a Rodotron/Samsung chassis:



This is running in MAME, in 31K with effect scanlines.png

I like it

[burgerkingdiamond]

The US control units work on european units - that's all I know. The inputs modules are certainly compatible.

If you need a JP21 to BNC or a Scart to BNC adapter depends on the types of RGB cables you own, not the monitor.

thanks. I guess I may just take a gamble on the remote.

[cools]

3x PVM-20M2MDE get

[Focusflute]

Geez where can I find a PDP 402???????

[SePh1r0tH]

There's a BVM-20F1U on eBay with 5 hours of operation. Very tempting even though I have 2 already >_>

[Ed Oscuro]

"Used, buttested, working. Guaranteed not DOA."

Was that the patient or the monitor? BOTH! *rimshot*



Man those BVMs are overpriced...well, if I had money to blow, 5 hours, though...not too overpriced compared to its original cost of course.

[Fudoh]

but it says 5 hours SINCE IT'S FULL SERVICE. Maybe the hours have been reset with a FW update....