@gion: good to hear it. Sounds like I'll have some more competition in Maniac mode soon. Have you received your 1.5 board yet?
@sideshow: no one knows if this will be ported to anything. If it is ported, it will probably be on the PS3 or X360. But realistically, I don't think this game will ever get ported (similar to Galuda 2 and Pink Sweets which also didn't get ported). I really hope I'm wrong this time and it is ported some time in 2007- more people should play this.
Galuda got ported, but then Galuda 2 didn't get a port. Ibara got ported, but then Pink Sweets (Ibara 2) didn't. The Ibara "Taito best" version was abruptly cancelled a few weeks ago, probably signalling the end of the Taito/Cave porting relationship. It's looking grim for any future Cave ports at the moment.
Its also strange that Shikigami No shiro III got ported to the PC and nothing else while its predecessors got ported to just about every major console.
That's a good point, that was pretty weird with Shiki III only getting a PC port. Seems a lot of the arcade shmup makers aren't too keen on the console ports any more, except of course for the Naomi game-makers who thankfully continue to port all the new Naomi shmups to the DC.
Well, examining the release dates of previous cave ports to consoles, it took over a year until they came out. Espgaluda 2, Pink Sweets, Shikigami No Shiro III, and Mushi 2 are all still fairly new. I'm sure some of these will eventually get ported. Theres got to be a raucous of people in japan demanding console ports of these games.
Oh, I'm thinking more on lines with XBOX360, Wii, PS3 ports. Although last generation ports would be satisfying as well. If they were going to be released for last generation systems then PS2 would probably be the only system since Gamecube and XBOX or pretty much dead.
sideshow wrote:Well, examining the release dates of previous cave ports to consoles, it took over a year until they came out.
No, all were released 7-9 months after the PCB's release. For example Mushi 1 was released October 2004 and the port came out July 2005. Ibara was released June 2005 and its port came out Feb 2006.
Espgaluda 2, Pink Sweets, Shikigami No Shiro III, and Mushi 2 are all still fairly new.
Well you're right about Mushi 2 (it's only been out a couple months), but Galuda 2 was released November 2005 (almost 14 months ago) and still no word on a port. Pink Sweets was released in April 2006 (almost 9 months ago), again no word. ALL Cave ports had been announced less than 6 months after the PCB's release. Do the math.
I wasnt looking at months but rather just year of the release dates. It could be that the next generation systems have hindered progress for porting. The hardware is still new and not all developers know how to program with it. Makes sense that ports arent coming out for the past generation systems cause the sales just wouldnt be as strong as say 2 years ago. Still the Dreamcast shatters the latter theory with new releases coming out. Could also be like you said that CAVE/TAITO relationships arent as strong as they used to be.
I think there's a much bigger chance of seeing these games on the PS2 than anything current generation (is that how we say it now?). The big guns are all now pushing for full HD games, except for, ironically enough, Nintendo, with their "completely caught in the middle" Wii.
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sideshow wrote:I wasnt looking at months but rather just year of the release dates. It could be that the next generation systems have hindered progress for porting. The hardware is still new and not all developers know how to program with it. Makes sense that ports arent coming out for the past generation systems cause the sales just wouldnt be as strong as say 2 years ago. Still the Dreamcast shatters the latter theory with new releases coming out. Could also be like you said that CAVE/TAITO relationships arent as strong as they used to be.
In my opinion end of this relationship could be a good sign - another company might bring some perfect ports over popular consoles. That would be awesome;o
I don't think the PS2 could properly handle Mushi Futari or Galuda 2, but it could do Pink Sweets. The ultimate problem with the next gen consoles (PS3, X360, Wii) is none of them can output true low res, so any hope for a port like Galuda or DDPDOJ with the crisp low res graphics goes down the tubes. If we get anything it'll be with the blurry interlaced upscaled garbage graphics, and most of the slowdown either removed or inaccurate.
As for another publisher, Arika and apparently now Taito are done with Cave ports. I can't think of another PS2 publishing house that would release them, but who knows. The Arika reunion is of course everyone's dream, but I wouldn't count on it. I know they are at least not doing a Galuda 2 port (I messaged them months ago and they told me this directly).
Our favorite torrent site just added some decent Ultra stage 5 boss/mid-boss footage. He still gets his ass kicked on the last boss, but he handled the mid-boss skillfully.
Note that the top download is the same as the second, just a different file format (mp4, slightly higher quality but you'll need to rotate it).
The 5th boss looks like a TLB all the time. No need to have further pain, if you ask me
On the last vid the best thing is to watch the player practicing the last pattern trying different ways
Yeah, having gone up against the Stage 5 boss in Ultra a few times now, I don't think there is a TLB anymore. The patterns in this boss are about the same in difficulty as the TLB in Mushi 1. I can't see them throwing anything else in after this.
Man, Abnormal Reco can really kick some ass in Original Mode.
Definitely give that one a download, it's the best run released thus far. The player does a no miss no bomb up to the last part of Stage 5 where he bombs twice, then he dies twice on the final boss. If he no missed the run he would have had over 375 mil. Still a far cry from the 466 mil score reported, but very impressive none the less.
I gave Abnormal Reco a try again the other day and hated her more than ever. Those dumb bugs kept locking onto the wrong shit and getting me killed. To score well with her you've really got to know what you're doing.
I think the highest scores in Original are going to come from Normal Reco, with Normal Palm second. This guy updated his site again with a video of stage 2 in Original with Normal Palm. He ends it with 66+, pretty good stuff.
I can't download that Stage 2 vid as it's from the same guy with those Ultra mode vids that people outside of Japan couldn't download. Hopefully someone (hello zakk!) could upload them to another server for the rest of us to download.
And I like Ab Reco a lot. Once you play with her a bit it's a lot of fun.
Some are down, and LOTS of them are actually networks of proxies which distribute your connections throughout the network; your connections come from different ips some of which aren't going to be in japan. Great for making sure you can't be tracked, not so good when you need them to source from a particular country.
I've been thinking about putting up a small file upload thing like this shinetworks/hameko (RIP) sort of thing; but primarily for use on this forum. I just need to ponder if I want to do the work and how to make sure it doesn't become some warez dump site (outsiders who discover it, you guys have good warez so that's no problem! ahem.)
Another AbPalm Ultra torrent is up for grabs and it's a pretty good one this time. He destroys the 3rd and 4th bosses but again has nothing to say to the last boss. I'm still hoping for a TLB...Cave surely wants to top the BS patterns from the first game.
I've uploaded the newest replay from the mushioujou site so those of you outside of Japan can take a look. The footage is of a no miss, no bomb of the last boss in Original with Normal Palm. He ends the game with 412m, but if he had grabbed the 1-up and not lost a life earlier in the game, he likely would have had 450 or so.
NTSC-J wrote:Another AbPalm Ultra torrent is up for grabs and it's a pretty good one this time. He destroys the 3rd and 4th bosses but again has nothing to say to the last boss. I'm still hoping for a TLB...Cave surely wants to top the BS patterns from the first game.
I have no idea how you could have a TLB for this game that would still be *possible* to beat, given what the current stage 5 boss tosses at you. I mean, the only way I see topping the current last boss is to just have a screen - wide rolling pin scroll down towards the player. DODGE THIS~!
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I think there is a true last boss. The stage 5 boss in ultra mode is hurt by bombing. Most true last bosses in cave games are invulnerable to bomb damage.
I suck at this game. But today, I went in to play it and there were two seemingly drunken Japanese dudes loitering around the cab. One of them sat down, and 1CC'd the original game with a score of 352 million. If he hadn't died 4 times, he probably could have approached 400 mil. Upon watching him do the final boss, however, I concluded that this kind of shmup is too fast for me.
Have you received your 1.5 board yet?
