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Das Muel wrote:I've been using this dirt cheap thing: http://www.amazon.co.uk/smallest-Adapte ... s=hdmi+vga
Good price, but looking at that I can imagine it puts quite a strain on the HDMI port when you consider you have the weight of the adapter and then the weight of a potentially bulky VGA cable on the other end. I was thinking maybe http://www.amazon.co.uk/Warranty-VicTsi ... 00J63HWD0/ would be better as the little length of cable would at least allow for some strain relief.
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Yohanov wrote:Does someone have a particular hdmi to vga transcoder to recommend ? I want to buy one in anticipation for using this board with a pc crt.
All of HD Fury's adapters are great. I'm currently using the HD Fury Nano, which is $80 new. The original model can be found on ebay for less than $40 used.
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BuckoA51 wrote:
Das Muel wrote:I've been using this dirt cheap thing: http://www.amazon.co.uk/smallest-Adapte ... s=hdmi+vga
Good price, but looking at that I can imagine it puts quite a strain on the HDMI port when you consider you have the weight of the adapter and then the weight of a potentially bulky VGA cable on the other end. I was thinking maybe http://www.amazon.co.uk/Warranty-VicTsi ... 00J63HWD0/ would be better as the little length of cable would at least allow for some strain relief.
The adapter's light as a feather. I'll be going DVI to HDMI with a lightweight cable first anyway.
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All of HD Fury's adapters are great. I'm currently using the HD Fury Nano, which is $80 new. The original model can be found on ebay for less than $40 used.
Great but a little overkill for this, selling point of HD Fury always was the HDCP mitigation.
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BuckoA51 wrote:Great but a little overkill for this, selling point of HD Fury always was the HDCP mitigation.
Maybe, depends on the quality of the DAC. HD Fury's seem to have better color than the built in DAC on my video card.

And then there's input lag. Fudoh says there shouldn't be any since it is a simple conversion, but I wouldn't put it past these generic Chinese companies to somehow mess that up.
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The whole point of Chinese companies pushing out generic tech is to make it as cheap as possible- if they can avoid a full frame-buffer they certainly will.
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BuckoA51 wrote:
All of HD Fury's adapters are great. I'm currently using the HD Fury Nano, which is $80 new. The original model can be found on ebay for less than $40 used.
Great but a little overkill for this, selling point of HD Fury always was the HDCP mitigation.
How ironic, then, that the only HD Fury product I own seems to block HDCP, as when connected between an HDCP display and an HDCP graphics card, the graphics card says HDCP is not supported.
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That's just the PC being dumb, just don't do blu-ray on the PC, it sucks.
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Guspaz wrote:
BuckoA51 wrote:
All of HD Fury's adapters are great. I'm currently using the HD Fury Nano, which is $80 new. The original model can be found on ebay for less than $40 used.
Great but a little overkill for this, selling point of HD Fury always was the HDCP mitigation.
How ironic, then, that the only HD Fury product I own seems to block HDCP, as when connected between an HDCP display and an HDCP graphics card, the graphics card says HDCP is not supported.
Yeah, the piece of shit I linked to on Amazon is HDCP compliant by the way. PS3/4 looks freakin awesome on a decent CRT.
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BuckoA51 wrote:That's just the PC being dumb, just don't do blu-ray on the PC, it sucks.
I don't see how, according to HDFury, the device is supposed to be completely transparent to HDCP.

If I connect the PC and the display directly, HDCP works fine.

If I put the HDFury Dr. HDMI between the two devices, HDCP doesn't work.

It's not a big problem because I don't need HDCP to my secondary display (a projector), since blurays are the only thing that care, and I use my PS3 for that on the projector. But it's still annoying.
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If I put the HDFury Dr. HDMI between the two devices, HDCP doesn't work.
Oh you didn't say you were talking about Dr HDMI, that's an entirely different product. That would depend on what EDID you had programmed into it I think. I've used mine with HDCP protected sources and it's been fine, so I don't know.
Yeah, the piece of shit I linked to on Amazon is HDCP compliant by the way. PS3/4 looks freakin awesome on a decent CRT.
Seriously, it strips HDCP? Are you certain? I don't think PS4 turns on HDCP except when you play blu-ray, but I thought PS3 had it on all the time.
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BuckoA51 wrote:
If I put the HDFury Dr. HDMI between the two devices, HDCP doesn't work.
Oh you didn't say you were talking about Dr HDMI, that's an entirely different product. That would depend on what EDID you had programmed into it I think. I've used mine with HDCP protected sources and it's been fine, so I don't know.
It doesn't matter which EDID: it can be the built-in ones, it can be the cloned EDID of the display. I didn't buy the thing for EDID spoofing, I bought it to get around the issue where nVidia graphics cards stop detecting the secondary display if it's left disabled for a while (a problem which has occurred for me on multiple different nVidia cards across two computers over the years). Dr. HDMI does solve that by letting you send the hotplug detect event.
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yepp, Dr HDMI is just an EDID minder. Doesn't do anything to HDCP. All their D/A converters strip HDCP out of the box. HDFury IV and their HDMI splitters need a custom firmware to strip HDCP and output an unprotected HDMI signal.
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Right, so the Dr. HDMI is supposed to allow HDCP to pass-through. Except it doesn't. It blocks HDCP.
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I use the Dr. HDMI on my setup to make a late VP50Pro video processor work on my Sony display. No problems with HDCP passthrough. Do you use one of the preset EDID banks or have you captured the actual EDID of your monitor ?
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I've tried both, but typically the captured EDID of the actual projector/AV receiver.
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I use mine with both PS4 and PC on the output of a 8 way HDMI switch, no problems with HDCP passthrough here either.
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Fudoh wrote:
Will we be seeing a review from Fudoh soon?
next week :mrgreen:
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most likely tomorrow.
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Mantrox wrote:I'll admit i tried /OSSC.html just to see if you had a placeholder article xD
You're not the only one. :D
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The thirst is real, haha
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Looking forward to review, Fudoh.
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I'll be curious to learn about your website's stats the day after publishing. :mrgreen:
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Got my DIY today. I'll see if I'm able to assemble it during the weekend. Hype!
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I'll be curious to learn about your website's stats the day after publishing
no problem, I'll pull the stats....
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text is almost done. Should be up late on sunday, sorry for the delay.
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Fudoh wrote:text is almost done. Should be up late on sunday, sorry for the delay.
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I'll post here once it's online. It's finished, but I need to work a little on the photos.
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