STG Weekly #73: Varth

[Blinge]

D=

Hope you get well soon, Soda.

[emphatic]

D=

Hope you get well soon, Soda.

+1.

[SapphireDensetsu]

D=

Hope you get well soon, Soda.

+1.

[Aquas]

^ Soda appreciates the well wishes all. He's feeling better too.

[Lord Satori]

Oh man... and here I was looking forward to watching anything else but what is essentially a re-run this week. I'm still not grasping the reason why Muchi Muchi Pork (why are you calling it Manpuku) is happening again.

[trap15]

Because it's a different mode. Manpuku is essentially Harder from the other Yagawa games. Which means it ends up being way different and way harder.

[CStarFlare]

One of the guys who can 2-ALL 1.01 can probably make this comparison better than I can, but Manpuku's first loop is probably not much easier than the second loop of the vanilla game. Manpuku's 2nd loop requires you to play extremely well while managing your resources almost perfectly.

Think of this as the MMP equivalent to the Futari Ultra episode except GUS isn't invited.

[Lord Satori]

except GUS isn't invited.

aww.

Anyway, thanks for clearing things up. That'll be interesting to see. I just wish I didn't have to look at those bizarre pig chicks...

[trap15]

But they're so hot

[Softdrink 117]

But they're so hot

The question now becomes: did you host the kreygasm specifically to post this comment, or did you just have it laying around on your server for some other reason?

Also, STG Weekly might have some cool news in the next couple days... I can't guarantee anything yet but will give information as soon as we've confirmed things. Suspense! Mystery! Excitement!

[trap15]

But they're so hot

The question now becomes: did you host the kreygasm specifically to post this comment, or did you just have it laying around on your server for some other reason?

I've had it around a while, post it occasionally on this forum. But generally it's for stuff like this

[DEL]

CStarFlare wrote:

One of the guys who can 2-ALL 1.01 can probably make this comparison better than I can, but Manpuku's first loop is probably not much easier than the second loop of the vanilla game. Manpuku's 2nd loop requires you to play extremely well while managing your resources almost perfectly.

Think of this as the MMP equivalent to the Futari Ultra episode except GUS isn't invited.

Well, Manpuku's first loop stopped everyone else. There are no first loop Manpuku clears on the Leaderboard. (There is a PCB ver1.0 1 loop clear though - 109mil). It needs to be figured out and attacked in a different way from all the other Arcade modes. But its not too bad when you've got it figured.
The 2nd Loop though is about 5X harder. I'll explain why during the commentary. The actual 2-ALL is a stretch. Not reaching the ST2-5 last stage - that is not the problem. The issue is how to arrive at the Last Boss with enough lives to take it down.

Don't worry Lord Satori, once you see the Perfect Bullet Storm that is the Manpuku 2nd loop, you might be intrigued

[LordHypnos]

PM'd Frenetic with a shit ton of replays of MM.

[majik989s]

PM'd Frenetic with a shit ton of replays of MM.

This is what I like to see!

[pestro87]

Many thanks for doing the MMP episode! It was awesome to hear DEL comment on his outstanding feat!

[DEL]

^Thanks pestro. Apologies for my damn old PC messing up at the start . I got it to play ball in the end.
Plus thanks for the uploads!

[LordHypnos]

Caught the very end of the run. Very impressive stuff. I'll probably watch the beginning on YT to learn about the game basics, and whatnot.

[Icarus]

Good stuff DEL. Hard work pays off. ^_-

[DEL]

Thanks ICR & LordHypnos.
ICR - you got a mention in there

[Icarus]

ICR - you got a mention in there

I know, I was watching lol.

[mastermx]

Just saw the episode. DEL, it's people like you that inspire me. That was an amazing replay. Kudos.

[CStarFlare]

Just watched this. Fantastic episode, great commentary and insight into the level of familiarity that was necessary that take Manpuku down. Well done DEL and STG Weekly team.

[Blinge]

so DEL, what was your immediate reaction upon beating the TLB and getting the 2-ALL?

[NTSC-J]

One of the guys who can 2-ALL 1.01 can probably make this comparison better than I can, but Manpuku's first loop is probably not much easier than the second loop of the vanilla game. Manpuku's 2nd loop requires you to play extremely well while managing your resources almost perfectly.

In terms of simply clearing (not focusing on maximizing score, but scoring does help you survive), I would rank the modes like this (easiest to hardest):

1.01 1-ALL
Matsuri
1.00 1-ALL
Harahara 1.01
Harahara 1.00
Manpuku 1.01 1-ALL
Manpuku 1.00 1-ALL
1.01 2-ALL
Manpuku 1.01 2-ALL
1.00 2-ALL
Manpuku 1.00 2-ALL (never been done and may be impossible)

[Strikers1945guy]

My new favorite STG weekly episode right behind the Ibara one. Seriously awesome stuff

[DEL]

NTSC-J wrote:

In terms of simply clearing (not focusing on maximizing score, but scoring does help you survive), I would rank the modes like this (easiest to hardest):

1.01 1-ALL
Matsuri
1.00 1-ALL
Harahara 1.01
Harahara 1.00
Manpuku 1.01 1-ALL
Manpuku 1.00 1-ALL
1.01 2-ALL
Manpuku 1.01 2-ALL
1.00 2-ALL
Manpuku 1.00 2-ALL (never been done and may be impossible)

^Totally agreed on all points, of course .

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Thanks Strikers1945guy, mastermx & CStarFlare.

Blinge wrote:

so DEL, what was your immediate reaction upon beating the TLB and getting the 2-ALL?

Mild elation & most of all Relief.

[Aleksei]

Wow, great episode, as a player that stays on the other side of disc (Pink Sweets), this has inspired me to visit the other side.

[DEL]

^Cheers.
As a player who has tried your side of the disk and decided to leave that side to Plasmo, I am happy that you're gonna take a look.

[trap15]

Episode on Rapid Hero starting in about 10 minutes. Get ready!

[mastermx]

Episode on Rapid Hero starting in about 10 minutes. Get ready!

I missed the stream... Gonna watch it later on today.

Btw anyone see Softdrink's sleepshmupping? It's an amazing display of the human mind and the subconscious. Wow