Pink Sweets, first impressions

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Thu May 25, 2006 10:39 am

oxtsu wrote:http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/pinksw ... index.html

New promo vid up. Cave sells.

And Cave hits a new low.

WHAT THE FUCK YOU DOIN CAVE?! THIS SHIT IS NOT MANLY

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Thu May 25, 2006 12:40 pm

oxtsu wrote:http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/pinksw ... index.html

New promo vid up. Cave sells.

Pretty campy!
The guy is too over the top and made me feel embarassed looking at him.

I am sure it's not meant to be serious and in that way it succeeds!
Can't figure out whu Insert credit is talking about two ugly girls though... the one with the blond stripes in her hair looks pretty nice to me.

jpj- · Post by **jpj-** » Thu May 25, 2006 1:26 pm

paedo.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Thu May 25, 2006 1:41 pm

This is closely related to the reason why I haven't shown any of my friends ZUN's stuff.

bpe · Post by **bpe** » Thu May 25, 2006 2:09 pm

Wtf ? I feel dirty. :\

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Thu May 25, 2006 2:30 pm

Jesus. This video sucks.

Actually, that guy combined with that shrill dance music reminds me a bit of this techno band we have here in germany, SCOOTER (they suck too). Even though I hate techno, I liked the music in both trailers so far. Its cheesy, but in a over-the-top-upbeat way. Err, not that piano part at the beginning, though.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Thu May 25, 2006 3:41 pm

Man that video is some messed up shit.

dynagod · Post by **dynagod** » Thu May 25, 2006 4:40 pm

well anyway you shake it its working better than any previous shmup marketing campaign i can think of.
this story has made its way on kotaku, digg, and a few other HUGE syndicated blogs..
how often does a shmup get thhis time of attention?!
positive or negative its bringing them hits

Post by **Icarus** » Thu May 25, 2006 5:02 pm

The artwork for the new boss characters, while looking pretty decent, is very... fanservicey. And they're hilariously named as well.

http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/pinksw ... index.html

Rose Sisters... mmmmm... :d

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Thu May 25, 2006 8:43 pm

howmuchkeefe wrote:This is closely related to the reason why I haven't shown any of my friends ZUN's stuff.

Pfft, ZUN's got nothin' on this.

But yeah, they could've at least included some game footage, or something...it's almost like they're consciously trying to hide the fact that there's some kind of video game someplace behind all the cheesecake.

Heck, if this gets ported, it might just have what it takes to be the first Cave game to make it to the West.

Post by **Icarus** » Thu May 25, 2006 9:34 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:Heck, if this gets ported, it might just have what it takes to be the first Cave game to make it to the West.

Fanservice! (Just look at all the semi-naked ladies!)
Bullet nullifying weapons!
Cheesy J-Pop soundtrack!
Pinkbulletism!
Cave logo!
Pretty graphics!
Really goofy advertising!

Could this be Mobile Light Force 4 in the making??

^_-

EDIT: I just had this really weird vision of a Pink Sweets anime, with the Rose sisters as 'serious' action heroines (dressed in typical scantily-clad gear, with obligatory 'service') fending off the new bosses in various anime-standard action sequences. Sort of like Bakuretsu Tenshi or Tenjho Tenje. FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Christ, it even has the soundtrack in place for the series. And the trash-talking sequences in-between the boss battles to tie the anime into the game. And the advertising. *shudder*

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Thu May 25, 2006 9:50 pm

Icarus wrote:Cave logo!

Somehow I don't think that one would be much of a factor for a Western release...'course, that also doesn't affect the "visible bullets = wimpy" opinion among some around here...or their inability to resist a Cave-related zinger of any sort.

In any event, as much as people are going on about "Cave's Shamelessness" in relation to this title (granted, I'm sure it's a sizeable factor in the, erm, presentation), isn't the same guy who did Ibara (and Garegga) directing this one too? I find it interesting (though also rather predictable) that few are wondering (out loud, at least) where his head's gone to...

I just had this really weird vision of a Pink Sweets anime

SHHHH! Stop! Cease! Desist! Don't give them any more to work with, they'll hear you!

Post by **Icarus** » Thu May 25, 2006 10:06 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
Icarus wrote:Cave logo!
Somehow I don't think that one would be much of a factor for a Western release...'course, that also doesn't affect the "visible bullets = wimpy" opinion among some around here...or their inability to resist a Cave-related zinger of any sort.

Dunno. Given the amount of Cave love going around, the chance for a localised port (if it ever happens) would get a lot of people touching themselves - to use GaijinPunch's words in this case. ^_-

Although 'touching themselves' in this case would be a pretty bad idea. ^_-

BulletMagnet wrote:...isn't the same guy who did Ibara (and Garegga) directing this one too? I find it interesting (though also rather predictable) that few are wondering (out loud, at least) where his head's gone to...

I haven't seen the credits list yet. Has it been confirmed that Yagawa is directing this game? I was under the impression that they are just recycling the graphics and dropping in a new system, therefore they probably wouldn't need Yagawa's Raizing style for Pink Sweets.

BulletMagnet wrote:
Icarus wrote:I just had this really weird vision of a Pink Sweets anime
SHHHH! Stop! Cease! Desist! Don't give them any more to work with, they'll hear you!

You know you'd buy it! Admit it! ^_-
I would, just so I could laugh at it.

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Thu May 25, 2006 10:12 pm

Hot chicks lol

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri May 26, 2006 1:36 am

Icarus wrote:Dunno. Given the amount of Cave love going around, the chance for a localised port (if it ever happens) would get a lot of people touching themselves...

Well, that's the thing, the "Cave love" you speak of exists only in communities like this one which are geeky enough to have heard of them in the first place, so in terms of releasing any of their stuff to a wider Western market, name recognition would pretty much be a nonfactor, methinks. In any case, it's still not actually gonna happen anyways, heh heh.

Has it been confirmed that Yagawa is directing this game?

For some reason I'm thinking that someone mentioned that he is...I might be wrong though. I DO, however, very clearly remember it being said on this thread someplace that the game does have a Raizing-esque rank system that will hurt you really bad if you don't handle it right...however, apparently it's more "Bakraid style" than "Garegga style," since it doesn't seem to take much effect unless you're playing for score.

You know you'd buy it! Admit it! ^_-

I can barely afford the games themselves, extra frou-frou is pretty much out of the question for me, even in cases where I do want it, heh heh.

cigsthecat wrote:Hot chicks lol

Yeah, the Ibara girls just can't seem to get a break when it comes to the wardrobe...I nearly said "you gotta be kidding" out loud when I read the "Pink Sweets" webcomic where Teresa gets married, or some such thing...her "wedding dress" is just a white version of the pseudo-lingerie she usually wears, thong and all. -_- They really ought to unionize or something, for better working conditions.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Fri May 26, 2006 2:35 am

Honestly I don't have any problems this video. It's just cute with a pinch of innuendo. Not skanky and gratuitous like a lot of the other low-brow marketing these days (okay...some of the character sketches are there, or getting close...thongs and ass-cracks must go). It's an improvement from Jun Tsukasa's (Psikyo) muscle fetish. And more interesting with that detailed Euro theme than Kado Tukasa's STG works (Border Down, Espgaluda series).

Rastan78 wrote:Edit - oxtsu, was there any info about the other staff. I'm assuming they've still got Yagawa programming and Wakabayashi as the designer?

I don't see anything about it in the past couple issues of Arcadia. Just guessing the same as you; S.Yagawa on programming and Wakabayashi on design, with input and direction from other Cave staff (IKD, etc). As opposed to Ibara, where Yagawa was directing almost everything.

p.s. background: S.Yagawa is an ex-Raizing programmer, most famous for his work Battle Garegga.

Macaw · Post by **Macaw** » Fri May 26, 2006 6:00 am

BulletMagnet wrote:Heck, if this gets ported, it might just have what it takes to be the first Cave game to make it to the West.

Isnt the reason there have been no western Cave game releases because Cave refuses the games to be budget priced or somthing like that?

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:50 am

i wonder where cave is heading but i'm not too optimistic.

Raidenfighter Kirkov · Fri May 26, 2006 9:01 am

The video is really bad.

Greetings
RFK

NTSC-J · Post by **NTSC-J** » Fri May 26, 2006 10:42 am

Been watching players getting better with this game the past couple weeks, I've seen some scores in the D to E range. The last few stages are unreal with the difficulty, definitely gives Ibara a run for its money. You'd think with an almost non-stop bomb and absorbing bullets it might be easy, but no they found a way around that. Some guys were creaming the game, going into stage 6 with 5 lives, only to have them stripped away. I swear stage 6 is like 10 minutes long too.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:58 pm

That's encouraging, NTSC-J. And from reading a little about the game, much as I suspected. Cave hasn't gone all creampuff and frou-frou when it comes to the game system.

Okay..maybe the pros won't be setting new records 5+years on, like Garegga and a handful of others, but I think that's too high of an expectation anyway.

agony · Post by **agony** » Fri May 26, 2006 11:33 pm

Stage 1 Infos now Online

http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/pinksw ... age_1.html

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Mon May 29, 2006 12:30 am

Macaw wrote:
BulletMagnet wrote:Heck, if this gets ported, it might just have what it takes to be the first Cave game to make it to the West.
Isnt the reason there have been no western Cave game releases because Cave refuses the games to be budget priced or somthing like that?

It's more a case of Cave's vig on any western release being too high to allow for a budget price. I'd guess if a Cave game were released here it'd probably be no less than $40- and apparently the wankers at SCEA don't want a Cave game selling for that price. SCEA are really the ones to blame, it seems.

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Mon May 29, 2006 1:23 am

If it was up to me i'd get the president of SCEA and a few execs from Cave and lock 'em up in a room and hold them at gunpoint and make them release this game(and Ketsui and Guwange 1 and 2) in the US-fuck a loss. And then i'd pistol whip all of 'em for being such stubborn bastards.

Good thing its not up to me.....

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Mon May 29, 2006 1:39 am

CAVE doesn't even own the rights to Guwange.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon May 29, 2006 2:20 am

Valgar wrote:CAVE doesn't even own the rights to Guwange.

Who does?

droid · Post by **droid** » Mon May 29, 2006 3:51 am

there was a guwange 2? what the hell?

if not there oughta be. Guwange rocks. Currently my favorite shmup.

Droid

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Mon May 29, 2006 3:57 am

Never_Scurred wrote:If it was up to me i'd get the president of SCEA and a few execs from Cave and lock 'em up in a room and hold them at gunpoint and make them release this game(and Ketsui and Guwange 1 and 2 ) in the US-fuck a loss. And then i'd pistol whip all of 'em for being such stubborn bastards.

Good thing its not up to me.....

What do you know that the rest of us don't.

Never_Scurred · Post by **Never_Scurred** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:16 am

Limbrooke wrote:
Never_Scurred wrote:If it was up to me i'd get the president of SCEA and a few execs from Cave and lock 'em up in a room and hold them at gunpoint and make them release this game(and Ketsui and Guwange 1 and 2 ) in the US-fuck a loss. And then i'd pistol whip all of 'em for being such stubborn bastards.

Good thing its not up to me.....
What do you know that the rest of us don't.

I swear to god i remember seeing something about a guwange 2, i may be getting it confused with gunbird 2, oh well...Speaking of Guwange, I thought that was a Cave game, thats the impression I got from the Xenocide files....

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:19 am

Never_Scurred wrote: I swear to god i remember seeing something about a guwange 2, i may be getting it confused with gunbird 2, oh well...Speaking of Guwange, I thought that was a Cave game, thats the impression I got from the Xenocide files....

It's no sweat, as both Gunbird 2 and Guwange are vertically scrolling, it's easy to confuse the two..

But you are right Guwange is a Cave developed game but that's as far as I go.