21st Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results

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Re: 21st Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results

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Lethe wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 4:54 pm So why don't you tell us how you really feel?
We’re in a bit of a loop, but I’ll translate for you:

I think TD2 is excellent, and that concerns about visibility are overblown, as they are about Garegga. I think Batsugun isn’t Toaplan’s best. I think Garegga is a better game than DOJ, Ketsui, and Futari. I think Eschatos, ZeroRanger, and TDIII are cool sonically and aesthetically, but overrated as ‘games.’ I think the list has gotten a little stale and samey. I wish some players who didn’t vote had voted. And I think we’re in dire need of some charismatic and creative tastemakers to reframe the way we think about our canon. (Not me, an asshole, I’ve been told. And worse, an asshole whose taste isn’t sufficiently independent from prevailing attitudes for the job.)

Moving on to newer conversations and greener pastures:

The impact of availability is hard to judge given the prevalence of emulation. I wonder how many of the voters are really reliant on new home ports to modern consoles? In some contexts, it has a pretty decisive impact. Ex. I think CRS68K is hugely benefitted by its Windows port; without it, I’d wager it’d have the reputation of a Flame Zapper. If exA Arcadia games were more widely played, there’d be a number in the Top 25 and HMs: Aka to Blue R, Cambria exA, Aces Kai, Gallet / AK / SDOJ exA Arrange, and FixEight exA (surprisingly, a stronger game than Outzone) would all be worthy. But voting for them in current market conditions would be tantamount to throwing your vote in the bin.

And finally, I have no faith that most voters are reading, to say nothing of following, Nifty’s rules.
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Re: 21st Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results

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you're a better guy than I am, BIL. I'm not apologizing for TD2
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Y'know you're right. WORTH IT (`w´メ)

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Re: 21st Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results

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Lethe wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 4:54 pm
jehu wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 4:38 pm
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I’m sorry that you can’t see a joke even when it hits you in the face with all the subtlety of a bowling ball. The TD2 bullets must be a nightmare for you.
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No, YOU'RE the one who's not getting the joke here. Clearly I'm operating several levels above you bro
When you discuss things with passion, you are exposing vulnerability. There is an implicit social contract that when you make fun of someone, you provide just as much ammo to be used against yourself as you use on them.
When you specialize in posting pretentious snark and expose nothing, you don't look like a joker, you just look like an asshole.
So why don't you tell us how you really feel? You did that in the past sometimes, what changed? You going through a hard time in life?
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jehu wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 5:31 pm
I think TD2 is excellent, and that concerns about visibility are overblown, as they are about Garegga. I think Batsugun isn’t Toaplan’s best. I think Garegga is a better game than DOJ, Ketsui, and Futari. I think Eschatos, ZeroRanger, and TDIII are cool sonically and aesthetically, but overrated as ‘games.’ I think the list has gotten a little stale and samey. I wish some players who didn’t vote had voted. And I think we’re in dire need of some charismatic and creative tastemakers to reframe the way we think about our canon. (Not me, an asshole[...])
While TD2 was an enjoyable Honorable Mention to me, I rated Batsugan fairly high, & I love ZeroRanger, I still strongly agree with a lot of what you said hah. Can't wait to play Garegga. It feels like the one pillar I'm missing.
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Re: 21st Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results

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jehu wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 5:31 pm
I think Eschatos, ZeroRanger, and TDIII are cool sonically and aesthetically, but overrated as ‘games.’ I think the list has gotten a little stale and samey.
I saw you voted for Judgement Silversword, but dislike Eschatos. I'll admit I only dabbled in JSS for like 30mins and just assumed it to be a proto-Eschatos. What about makes it the better game?
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Radirgy in the HMs, we did it fellow Milestoners! 8) Yeah looks like giving it full points was a winning move!

Bummer about Shiki 2 and Cotton RnR dropping from HMs, now I wonder if hyper-optimized voting from me could have saved them. I think Schatten is right that the Shiki series' votes suffer from being spread out so much among all the entries. Perhaps I should have gone all-in and voted something crazy like 25 for Radirgy, Shiki 2, Cotton RnR, TD2, and the rest of the weight fragments among everything else with as many as possible on Dangun :lol: Hindsight is 20/20

Funny thing is, after checking my votes from past years, it looks like I already had a bit more of these heavily weighted votes a while back, but mostly due to not having as many godlike favorites rather than purposefully looking to optimize and meta-game depending on what has a chance to win.

Thunder Dragon 2 in the top 25 is great as well, definitely an excellent game! I haven't cleared it yet and maybe I would be more negatively receptive to the quirks (questionable bullet visibility or the need to basically 1-life all the way to the final boss) if I made it past boss 7 and had a serious shot at the 1CC, but I cleared Dangun which kinda feels close in the 1CC/score journey experience with similar "problems", and that didn't prevent me from voting for it, so perhaps it wouldn't change much.

All the discussions on DDP vs DOJ or Mushi vs Futari don't speak to me much since from afar I just see them all as a samey soup of shotlaser slop anyways :mrgreen: There's differences if you dig deeper for sure, but still, none of the games are esoteric. Either way, I can see why people liked them, they are inoffensive and do a decent job at entertaining. They are all pretty easy to enjoy at least on a casual level.

Mahou is definitely a surprising choice, a kinda eh shmup carried by really cool atmosphere/worldbuilding/personality, and not something that feels "worthy" of Top 25...but I can't complain about it, it would be hypocritical really. It's actually refreshing to see something out of left field in the sea of CAVE shotlasers so I'll take it! :)

And a final thanks to Nifty for all the work on these votes! It's always been a helpful time marker to keep track of my evolving preferences, and I maybe I should have gotten into vote optimization way earlier, but either way it was great to have this.
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Re: 21st Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results

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M.Knight wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2026 1:23 pm Radirgy in the HMs, we did it fellow Milestoners! 8) Yeah looks like giving it full points was a winning move!
Yeah though I'm suprised it's not The Crow.

Anyway, as always, most of games I vote for don't reach resulting lists, lol.
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I haven't put DFK down for a couple of weeks now. It's so fluid to play, and Ketsupachi in particular has no auto bomb and seems to have the most fun scoring system of the variants; I love how the bees work in Black Label compared to 1.5. It's one of the votes I ended up feeling best about, I'll probably put it higher next time.

Not enough others shared my love of PC Engine caravan shooters for any of them to make the list, but I'm not going to start a campaign or trash the community. Getting really serious about telling everyone what they should and shouldn't be voting on defeats the purpose of having a poll in the first place. There's no world where everyone enjoys all these games for the same reasons, the genre doesn't and shouldn't just belong to scoreplayers or people with one particular stress threshold.

I'm not sure where the sudden DDP bump came from though, the game hasn't had a home release in decades. I know it always functions as an on-ramp for the genre because of Full Extent of the Jam, did someone do a video or did a bigger streamer pick the game up?
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Sengoku Strider wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 12:06 amKetsupachi in particular has no auto bomb and seems to have the most fun scoring system of the variants
Yes! Black Label Arrange is really star of DFK, and definitely, it was weird that DFK originally had auto bomba with no way to turn off >.<!~
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Huh, 69 counted voters while 70 posts with votes
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Ya, someone voted after the deadline was already called
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Faith wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 5:11 am
Sengoku Strider wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 12:06 amKetsupachi in particular has no auto bomb and seems to have the most fun scoring system of the variants
Yes! Black Label Arrange is really star of DFK, and definitely, it was weird that DFK originally had auto bomba with no way to turn off >.<!~
Black Label in general feels like Cave addressing the list of most of the grievances people appear to have with DFK. The combo system still won't be demanding enough for some, but the game is easily twice as hard as the original and then some.
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Batsugun eXA really takes it to the next level. If anyone has access to an eXA and even a minor interest in the game, you should play it.

Kyukyoku Tiger is Brilliant as is Outzone. Toaplan made plenty of bangers, but I don't think Batsugun Special is horrible or anything. I'm still working on multiple loops.
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When it comes to Mushi and Futari, I tend to prefer whichever one I've just played. :) Futari and DDP - when are we getting these ported again?

Nice to see Mushi at #2. One of the few I've 1CC-ed - still working on a Maniac clear......

Always pleased to see Layer Section feature too. Greatest old school style vertical for me.
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bobhasashotgun wrote: Sun Mar 29, 2026 8:17 am
jehu wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2026 5:31 pm
I think Eschatos, ZeroRanger, and TDIII are cool sonically and aesthetically, but overrated as ‘games.’ I think the list has gotten a little stale and samey.
I saw you voted for Judgement Silversword, but dislike Eschatos. I'll admit I only dabbled in JSS for like 30mins and just assumed it to be a proto-Eschatos. What about makes it the better game?
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Now, the era of strict technological limitation in handhelds is over, and, in retrospect, JSS is far and away the coolest artifact it produced. In principle, it can’t be supplanted by something coming decades later - it’ll keep its aura as an authentic product of the age forever, just as Recca forever will as the pinnacle of 8-bit ambition in STG graphics, sound, and gameplay.

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roker wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 2:58 am Batsugun eXA really takes it to the next level. If anyone has access to an eXA and even a minor interest in the game, you should play it.

Kyukyoku Tiger is Brilliant as is Outzone. Toaplan made plenty of bangers, but I don't think Batsugun Special is horrible or anything. I'm still working on multiple loops.
Watched 1CC of Batsugun exA and really do not like the new voice they added >.<!~ Feel so... disconnected... from main game I feel ~_~"...
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The full results have been confirmed in order of full-results-ness, fully resulting in the following list table.

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###. Game Name                                          Total Score|Votes|HMs|SLs|Total Game Weight
     Top 25:

001. Battle Garegga                                      : 7.791971   37   1   1   2.228938
002. Mushihimesama / 1.5                                 : 6.533088   33   1   2   1.773496
003. DoDonPachi                                          : 6.445981   31   3   1   1.791609
004. Ketsui                                              : 6.149886   29   4   1   1.708422
005. Mushihimesama Futari / 1.5 / Black Label            : 6.116534   28   1   2   1.750498
006. DoDonPachi Daioujou / Black Label                   : 5.346790   28   1   0   1.456164
007. Armed Police Batrider                               : 5.337337   28   3   1   1.395007
008. Batsugun / Batsugun Special                         : 5.197459   33   0   0   1.243168
009. Darius Gaiden                                       : 5.028632   27   3   0   1.314334
010. RayForce/Layer Section/Gunlock/Galactic Attack      : 4.734559   29   3   0   1.118161
011. Crimzon Clover / World Ignition / World EXplosion   : 4.256904   24   1   0   1.100464
012. R-Type                                              : 4.221476   24   1   0   1.084670
013. ESP Ra.De. / Psi                                    : 3.894183   23   4   0   0.922497
014. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu / 1.5 / Resurrection         : 3.439126   19   2   0   0.882335
015. Progear no Arashi                                   : 3.316470   18   1   1   0.852061
016. Ikaruga                                             : 3.314931   18   4   0   0.826970
017. Radiant Silvergun                                   : 3.254138   18   0   0   0.864948
018. Flying Shark / Hishouzame                           : 3.025803   16   2   0   0.795699
019. G-Darius                                            : 2.846350   18   3   0   0.634352
020. Gunbird 2                                           : 2.818407   17   1   0   0.686974
021. Dangun Feveron / Fever SOS                          : 2.743693   17   0   0   0.669937
022. Thunder Dragon 2                                    : 2.738699   17   2   0   0.635172
023. Mahou Daisakusen / Sorcer Striker                   : 2.737894   17   1   1   0.626678
024. Gradius Gaiden                                      : 2.719346   16   1   0   0.675353
025. Cho Ren Sha 68k (X68/PC)                            : 2.713584   14   1   1   0.713459


     Honourable Mention:

026. Out Zone                                            : 2.712272   17   2   0   0.623391
027. ESPGaluda                                           : 2.666505   13   2   1   0.708741
028. Gradius II / Vulcan Venture (ARC/NES)               : 2.619916   15   2   0   0.647298
029. Strikers 1945 II                                    : 2.480125   15   1   0   0.601251
030. Dragon Blaze                                        : 2.429723   15   1   0   0.578782
031. Gradius V                                           : 2.422353   14   1   0   0.608036
032. Blue Revolver / Double Action                       : 2.394562   12   0   1   0.652591
033. Muchi Muchi Pork                                    : 2.333331   12   3   1   0.576486
034. Battle Bakraid                                      : 2.302986   13   3   1   0.530419
035. Giga Wing                                           : 2.240235   15   0   1   0.486176
036. Deathsmiles / 1.1 / Mega Black Label                : 2.204268   11   2   1   0.567760
037. ESPGaluda II                                        : 2.157665   11   1   1   0.563255
038. Soukyugurentai / Terra Diver                        : 2.125974   11   2   0   0.557262
039. Under Defeat                                        : 2.115768   14   2   0   0.455094
040. DoDonPachi Saidaioujou                              : 2.024201   11   0   1   0.520028
041. Thunder Force IV                                    : 1.910705   13   0   0   0.428759
042. Twin Cobra / Kyukyoku Tiger                         : 1.897917   11   1   0   0.471867
043. DonPachi                                            : 1.847486   11   2   0   0.433115
044. Raiden Fighters Jet                                 : 1.841551   10   0   0   0.495548
045. Mars Matrix                                         : 1.810122   08   3   0   0.497807
046. R-Type Delta                                        : 1.800495   11   3   0   0.395898
047. Fire Shark / Same! Same! Same!                      : 1.784396   10   2   0   0.437530
048. Ibara                                               : 1.762517   11   1   0   0.411507
049. ZeroRanger                                          : 1.754398   10   1   0   0.440427
050. Gradius                                             : 1.753937   11   2   0   0.391413
051. Raiden DX                                           : 1.751060   10   3   1   0.381995
052. Salamander / Life Force (ARC/PCE)                   : 1.659371   10   0   0   0.414335
053. Darius Burst: AC / EX / Chronicle Saviours          : 1.625658   10   1   0   0.383036
054. Guwange                                             : 1.617673   10   6   0   0.298128
055. Blazing Star                                        : 1.585868   09   2   0   0.381568
056. 19XX: The War Against Destiny                       : 1.567782   10   0   0   0.373505
057. Akai Katana Shin                                    : 1.521697   09   1   0   0.369231
058. GG Aleste 3                                         : 1.431213   09   0   0   0.345164
059. Thunder Force III                                   : 1.379567   08   1   0   0.338410
060. Radirgy / Radirgy PreciouS                          : 1.372700   05   1   0   0.432967


     The Rest:

061. Salamander 2                                        : 1.311715   08   3   0   0.275624
062. Psyvariar Revision                                  : 1.239993   07   0   0   0.324999
063. Eschatos                                            : 1.231664   07   3   0   0.272477
064. Devil Blade Reboot                                  : 1.217750   08   3   0   0.233735
065. Tatsujin / Truxton (ARC/MD)                         : 1.198117   07   2   0   0.273792
066. Imperishable Night [Touhou 8]                       : 1.182704   06   1   1   0.291325
067. Einhänder                                           : 1.176278   06   2   0   0.296595
068. Strikers 1945                                       : 1.157975   08   2   0   0.223358
069. Metal Black                                         : 1.154800   08   3   0   0.205673
070. Parodius Da!                                        : 1.151343   07   0   0   0.285480
071. Image Fight                                         : 1.117728   07   0   0   0.270495
072. RayStorm                                            : 1.116441   06   0   0   0.302460
073. Sengoku Blade / Tengai                              : 1.114300   06   0   0   0.301506
074. Musha Aleste / M.U.S.H.A.                           : 1.082595   06   4   1   0.197889
075. Dimahoo / Great Mahou Daisakusen                    : 1.070742   08   0   0   0.217010
076. Gunbird                                             : 1.058840   06   1   0   0.260513
077. Strikers 1945 III / Strikers 1999                   : 1.008458   05   1   0   0.270592
078. Hellsinker                                          : 1.003511   06   1   0   0.235848
079. Perfect Cherry Blossom [Touhou 7]                   : 0.988838   06   0   0   0.245576
080. Illvelo                                             : 0.969019   03   0   0   0.334359
081. Soldier Blade                                       : 0.957122   06   1   0   0.215168
082. Lords of Thunder / Winds of Thunder                 : 0.940642   07   1   0   0.175282
083. Gunvein                                             : 0.937909   07   1   0   0.174064
084. Shikigami no Shiro II / Castle Shikigami 2          : 0.932852   06   1   0   0.204349
085. V-V [V-Five] / Grind Stormer                        : 0.928862   06   2   0   0.186300
086. Tatsujin Oh / Truxton II                            : 0.921361   07   1   0   0.166687
087. Gun.Smoke                                           : 0.894437   05   1   0   0.219763
088. Gate of Thunder                                     : 0.883093   06   2   0   0.165897
089. Xevious                                             : 0.851534   06   2   0   0.151829
090. Pulstar                                             : 0.841525   05   3   0   0.163636
091. Raiden Fighters                                     : 0.829503   05   0   0   0.207086
092. Gokujou Parodius (ARC/SNES)                         : 0.823378   05   1   0   0.188086
093. Gradius III (SNES)                                  : 0.822495   04   3   0   0.187692
094. Judgement Silversword                               : 0.819875   05   2   0   0.170255
095. R-Type Leo                                          : 0.785710   05   0   0   0.187564
096. Galaga                                              : 0.781082   05   1   0   0.169231
097. Karous                                              : 0.778347   04   0   0   0.216821
098. RefRain - prism memories -                          : 0.768298   04   1   0   0.196071
099. Gun Frontier                                        : 0.761779   06   0   0   0.144356
100. Sisters Royale                                      : 0.759277   05   0   0   0.175780
101. Kamui                                               : 0.748000   05   1   0   0.154483
102. Twinkle Star Sprites                                : 0.745876   04   2   0   0.169806
103. Nexzr [Summer Carnival '93]                         : 0.732891   04   0   0   0.196557
104. Slap Fight / Alcon                                  : 0.718061   04   0   0   0.189946
105. Darius II / Sagaia                                  : 0.710600   05   0   0   0.154081
106. Akai Katana                                         : 0.709566   05   0   0   0.153620
107. Raiden IV                                           : 0.708330   05   0   0   0.153069
108. Recca [Summer Carnival '92]                         : 0.698327   04   3   0   0.132340
109. Cotton Rock 'n' Roll                                : 0.697773   05   1   0   0.132093
110. Darius                                              : 0.651646   04   0   0   0.160339
111. P-47 Aces                                           : 0.648039   03   1   0   0.175000
112. Mecha Ritz / Steel Rondo                            : 0.640919   04   1   0   0.139287
113. Sengoku Ace / Samurai Aces                          : 0.630179   04   0   0   0.150769
114. Chaos Field                                         : 0.608434   02   0   0   0.206154
115. R-Type Final                                        : 0.602571   04   0   0   0.138462
116. Power Strike II                                     : 0.601252   05   0   0   0.105335
117. Cambria Sword                                       : 0.600781   04   0   0   0.137664
118. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu Black Label                  : 0.596592   03   0   0   0.168336
119. DeltaZeal / G-Stream G2020                          : 0.591698   03   0   0   0.166154
120. Sexy Parodius                                       : 0.576442   04   1   0   0.110544
121. Raiden II                                           : 0.561386   05   0   0   0.087563
122. Aero Fighters 2 / Sonic Wings 2                     : 0.558656   04   0   0   0.118885
123. Giga Wing 2                                         : 0.558169   02   0   0   0.183746
124. Senjin Aleste                                       : 0.556985   01   0   1   0.191353
125. Super Aleste / Space Megaforce                      : 0.556911   04   1   0   0.101837
126. Trizeal                                             : 0.551032   03   0   0   0.148025
127. Raiden                                              : 0.550180   04   3   0   0.066297
128. R-Type II                                           : 0.538774   04   2   0   0.077483
129. Zanac Neo                                           : 0.532298   03   2   0   0.107135
130. Xexex                                               : 0.524928   05   0   0   0.071310
131. Super Spacefortress Macross II                      : 0.524445   03   0   0   0.136174
132. Daioh                                               : 0.520868   03   0   0   0.134579
133. Cotton: Fantastic Night Dreams                      : 0.508871   03   0   0   0.129231
134. Raiden Fighters 2                                   : 0.508664   03   2   0   0.096599
135. Ginga Force                                         : 0.501269   03   1   0   0.109572
136. Dezatopia                                           : 0.498283   03   0   0   0.124511
137. R-Type III: The Third Lightning                     : 0.497052   03   1   0   0.107692
138. Zero Gunner 2                                       : 0.495067   03   0   0   0.123077
139. Rolling Gunner                                      : 0.489999   02   1   0   0.137087
140. TwinBee Yahho!                                      : 0.489234   03   0   0   0.120477
141. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil [Touhou 6]              : 0.488990   02   0   1   0.128503
142. Cyvern: The Dragon Weapons                          : 0.488486   03   1   0   0.103874
143. Axelay                                              : 0.484713   03   0   0   0.118462
144. R-Type Final 2 / R-Type Final 3 Evolved             : 0.483248   03   1   0   0.101538
145. In The Hunt / Kaitei Daisensou                      : 0.473854   02   1   0   0.129890
146. Vasara 2                                            : 0.466535   03   2   0   0.077819
147. Thunder Force V                                     : 0.458774   04   0   0   0.074359
148. Galaga '88 / '90                                    : 0.455639   03   1   0   0.089231
149. Psyvariar 2                                         : 0.454592   03   0   0   0.105034
150. Hydorah / Super Hydorah                             : 0.454191   03   0   0   0.104855
151. Super XYX                                           : 0.444346   02   2   0   0.100466
152. Shienryu                                            : 0.427083   04   2   0   0.027692
153. Thunder Force AC                                    : 0.424059   02   1   0   0.107692
154. Great Fairy Wars [Touhou 12.8]                      : 0.423951   02   0   0   0.123914
155. Raiden III                                          : 0.423366   03   0   0   0.091114
156. Triggerheart Exelica                                : 0.419458   02   1   0   0.105641
157. Zanac (NES) / Zanac EX                              : 0.415229   02   1   0   0.103756
158. Seirei Senshi Spriggan                              : 0.415172   02   0   0   0.120000
159. Kaikan                                              : 0.406293   03   0   0   0.083503
160. Aero Fighters 3 / Sonic Wings 3                     : 0.400835   02   1   0   0.097339
161. 1941: Counter Attack                                : 0.400738   02   1   0   0.097296
162. Blue Wish Desire                                    : 0.400471   02   0   0   0.113446
163. Varth                                               : 0.396450   02   1   0   0.095385
164. Harmful Park                                        : 0.387952   02   1   0   0.091596
165. Slap Fight MD                                       : 0.375744   02   1   0   0.086154
166. Shikigami no Shiro / Castle of Shikigami            : 0.370800   02   0   0   0.100220
167. Viper Phase 1                                       : 0.364810   02   0   0   0.097549
168. Border Down                                         : 0.363925   03   0   0   0.064615
169. Gratia - Second Earth                               : 0.362698   02   0   0   0.096608
170. Mountain of Faith [Touhou 10]                       : 0.360787   01   0   1   0.103891
171. Fantastic Danmaku Festival Part III                 : 0.354168   01   0   1   0.100940
172. Neko Navy                                           : 0.344608   02   0   0   0.088544
173. Hyper Duel                                          : 0.334015   03   0   0   0.051282
174. Xevious Arrangement                                 : 0.324665   02   0   0   0.079653
175. X-Multiply                                          : 0.320767   03   0   0   0.045376
176. Defender                                            : 0.318541   02   0   0   0.076923
177. Phantasmagoria of Dim.Dream [Touhou 3]              : 0.315067   01   0   0   0.107914
178. Hitogata Happa                                      : 0.303301   02   0   0   0.070129
179. Double Dealing Character [Touhou 14]                : 0.300701   01   0   1   0.077105
180. Brave Blade                                         : 0.299215   02   0   0   0.068308
181. Angel at Dusk                                       : 0.294506   02   0   0   0.066209
182. Sonic Wings Special                                 : 0.292917   02   1   0   0.049231
183. Deathsmiles II                                      : 0.291681   03   0   0   0.032410
184. Gradius IV                                          : 0.290932   01   2   0   0.064615
185. GanaBlade                                           : 0.289589   02   1   0   0.047747
186. Kingdom Grandprix / Shippu Mahou Daisakusen         : 0.286720   02   0   0   0.062738
187. Detana!! TwinBee                                    : 0.285314   02   0   0   0.062111
188. Blazing Lazers / Gunhed                             : 0.283099   02   1   0   0.044854
189. Radirgy Swag                                        : 0.279428   02   0   0   0.059487
190. Gundemonium Recollection                            : 0.277666   01   0   0   0.091241
191. Infinos Gaiden                                      : 0.272033   02   0   0   0.056190
192. Revolver360 Re:actor                                : 0.270096   01   0   0   0.087866
193. StellaVanity                                        : 0.267002   02   0   0   0.053948
194. Apidya                                              : 0.266610   02   0   0   0.053773
195. Trouble Witches / Neo / Final                       : 0.264830   02   1   0   0.036710
196. eXceed 3rd - Jade Penetrate Black Package           : 0.263096   01   0   0   0.084746
197. Dogyuun                                             : 0.262186   02   1   0   0.035531
198. XII Stag / XIIZeal                                  : 0.259453   02   0   0   0.050583
198. Exzisus                                             : 0.259453   02   0   0   0.050583
200. Drainus                                             : 0.256421   02   0   0   0.049231
200. Vimana                                              : 0.256421   02   0   0   0.049231
200. DoDonPachi II: Bee Storm                            : 0.256421   02   0   0   0.049231
203. Radirgy Noa                                         : 0.255040   02   0   0   0.048615
204. Riverbed Soul Saver                                 : 0.253898   01   0   0   0.080645
205. Sektori                                             : 0.252735   02   0   0   0.047588
206. Space Invaders Extreme                              : 0.248748   02   0   0   0.045810
207. Bangai-O Spirits                                    : 0.247533   01   1   0   0.061538
207. Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta! / ReCurse!       : 0.247533   01   1   0   0.061538
209. Aleste / Power Strike                               : 0.245548   01   0   0   0.076923
210. Guardian Force                                      : 0.244919   02   0   0   0.044104
211. Undefined Fantastic Object [Touhou 12]              : 0.244701   02   1   0   0.027737
212. Cotton Reboot!                                      : 0.242616   02   0   0   0.043077
212. Akkanvader / Space Invaders '95                     : 0.242616   02   0   0   0.043077
214. Omega Fighter / Special                             : 0.238048   02   0   0   0.041040
215. Gradius III (ARC)                                   : 0.235714   02   0   0   0.040000
216. Hazelnut Hex                                        : 0.234624   02   0   0   0.039514
217. Crisis Force                                        : 0.231744   01   0   0   0.070769
217. Darius Burst                                        : 0.231744   01   0   0   0.070769
219. Shikigami no Shiro III                              : 0.231566   02   0   0   0.038151
220. Shock Troopers                                      : 0.231502   02   0   0   0.038122
221. Fantasy Zone II / II DX                             : 0.226827   01   1   0   0.052308
222. Exed Exes                                           : 0.224841   01   0   0   0.067692
223. Like Dreamer                                        : 0.223551   01   1   0   0.050847
224. Bangai-O HD: Missile Fury                           : 0.222541   01   0   0   0.066667
224. Radirgy 2                                           : 0.222541   01   0   0   0.066667
224. Illvelo Swamp / Happy Together                      : 0.222541   01   0   0   0.066667
227. Daisenpuu / Twin Hawk                               : 0.220759   01   2   0   0.033333
228. Strania: The Stella Machina                         : 0.214881   02   0   0   0.030713
229. Space Invaders '99 / Space Invaders X               : 0.211037   01   0   0   0.061538
230. Air Gallet                                          : 0.209319   02   0   0   0.028234
231. Earthion                                            : 0.208105   01   2   0   0.027692
232. Danmaku Unlimited 3                                 : 0.206242   02   0   0   0.026862
233. Bio-Hazard Battle                                   : 0.205627   01   1   0   0.042857
234. GunNail                                             : 0.198081   02   0   0   0.023223
235. Star Soldier                                        : 0.197233   01   0   0   0.055385
235. Cotton Reboot! High Tension!                        : 0.197233   01   0   0   0.055385
237. Sky Adventure                                       : 0.195009   01   0   0   0.054393
238. Fantasy Zone                                        : 0.194301   01   2   0   0.021538
239. Gleylancer                                          : 0.192316   01   1   0   0.036923
240. Game Tengoku                                        : 0.191358   01   1   0   0.036496
241. Tempest                                             : 0.190330   01   0   0   0.052308
242. Steel Empire (3DS)                                  : 0.188553   01   0   0   0.051515
243. Cho Aniki                                           : 0.187399   02   0   0   0.018462
244. Elemental Master                                    : 0.183428   01   0   0   0.049231
245. Raging Blasters                                     : 0.181887   01   0   0   0.048544
245. Space Invaders Extreme 2                            : 0.181887   01   0   0   0.048544
245. Nex Machina                                         : 0.181887   01   0   0   0.048544
245. Ghostus                                             : 0.181887   01   0   0   0.048544
249. Graze Counter                                       : 0.181755   01   0   0   0.048485
250. Mr. Heli No Daibouken                               : 0.179813   01   0   0   0.047619
250. Koutetsu Yousai Strahl                              : 0.179813   01   0   0   0.047619
252. Carrier Air Wing / U.S. Navy                        : 0.178439   02   0   0   0.014467
253. Space Manbow                                        : 0.176526   01   0   0   0.046154
253. Cannon Spike / Gunspike                             : 0.176526   01   0   0   0.046154
253. Beat Hazard                                         : 0.176526   01   0   0   0.046154
256. Concealed the Conclusion                            : 0.174917   00   0   1   0.053571
257. Zero Wing (ARC/MD)                                  : 0.173594   01   2   0   0.012308
257. Star Force (ARC/NES)                                : 0.173594   01   2   0   0.012308
259. Blue Wish Resurrection / Plus                       : 0.172802   00   2   1   0.020089
260. 1943: The Battle of Midway                          : 0.170060   02   0   0   0.010732
261. Devil Engine                                        : 0.169624   01   0   0   0.043077
261. Final Soldier                                       : 0.169624   01   0   0   0.043077
263. Z-Out                                               : 0.169131   01   0   0   0.042857
264. Tiger-Heli                                          : 0.167977   02   0   0   0.009803
265. Terra Cresta                                        : 0.167777   01   0   0   0.042254
265. Ibara Kuro                                          : 0.167777   01   0   0   0.042254
267. Pleasure Hearts                                     : 0.166851   01   0   0   0.041841
268. Phoenix                                             : 0.166692   02   0   0   0.009231
269. Natsuki Chronicles                                  : 0.163936   01   1   0   0.024272
270. GG Aleste II                                        : 0.162722   01   0   0   0.040000
270. Strikers 1945 Plus                                  : 0.162722   01   0   0   0.040000
272. Undeadline (GEN)                                    : 0.155819   01   0   0   0.036923
273. TranscendPang                                       : 0.153684   01   0   0   0.035971
274. Space Invaders                                      : 0.152888   01   2   0   0.003077
275. Viewpoint                                           : 0.150902   01   1   0   0.018462
275. Robotron: 2084                                      : 0.150902   01   1   0   0.018462
277. Danmakai: Red Forbidden Fruit                       : 0.149034   01   0   0   0.033898
278. BioMetal                                            : 0.148917   01   0   0   0.033846
278. UN Squadron (SNES)                                  : 0.148917   01   0   0   0.033846
278. Pink Sweets                                         : 0.148917   01   0   0   0.033846
278. Centipede                                           : 0.148917   01   0   0   0.033846
278. Gemini Wing                                         : 0.148917   01   0   0   0.033846
283. Super Spacefortress Macross                         : 0.148080   01   0   0   0.033473
284. Beamrider                                           : 0.147767   01   0   0   0.033333
285. Flame Zapper Kotsujin                               : 0.145381   01   1   0   0.016000
285. Homura                                              : 0.145381   01   1   0   0.016000
287. Shining Shooting Star                               : 0.144874   00   0   1   0.040179
288. Caladrius / Caladrius Blaze                         : 0.144000   01   1   0   0.015385
289. Sonic Wings Limited                                 : 0.142015   01   0   0   0.030769
289. Bangai-O                                            : 0.142015   01   0   0   0.030769
289. Gekirindan                                          : 0.142015   01   0   0   0.030769
292. Andro Dunos                                         : 0.138694   01   0   0   0.029289
292. Explosive Breaker                                   : 0.138694   01   0   0   0.029289
292. E.D.F.: Earth Defense Force                         : 0.138694   01   0   0   0.029289
295. Ordyne                                              : 0.137098   01   1   0   0.012308
296. Cotton Boomerang                                    : 0.136480   01   0   0   0.028302
297. Earth Defense Force (SNES)                          : 0.135113   01   0   0   0.027692
297. Gorf                                                : 0.135113   01   0   0   0.027692
297. Firepower 2000 / Super SWIV                         : 0.135113   01   0   0   0.027692
297. Scramble                                            : 0.135113   01   0   0   0.027692
302. Hidden Star in Four Seasons [Touhou 16]             : 0.133294   01   0   0   0.026882
303. RayCrisis                                           : 0.133258   01   0   0   0.026866
304. Gradius: The Interstellar Assault                   : 0.132812   01   0   0   0.026667
305. Psyvariar: Medium Unit                              : 0.130196   01   1   0   0.009231
305. Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth                       : 0.130196   01   1   0   0.009231
305. Space Bomber                                        : 0.130196   01   1   0   0.009231
308. Guxt                                                : 0.129308   01   0   0   0.025105
309. Razion                                              : 0.128210   01   0   0   0.024615
310. Tsukihime no Shiro                                  : 0.126830   01   0   0   0.024000
311. Emerald Blue                                        : 0.123687   01   0   0   0.022599
312. Darius II (MD)                                      : 0.121308   01   0   0   0.021538
312. Gyruss (NES/FDS)                                    : 0.121308   01   0   0   0.021538
312. Aka to Blue                                         : 0.121308   01   0   0   0.021538
312. Time Pilot                                          : 0.121308   01   0   0   0.021538
312. Star Soldier R                                      : 0.121308   01   0   0   0.021538
317. Zed Blade                                           : 0.119922   01   0   0   0.020921
318. Air Buster (ARC/PCE)                                : 0.117646   01   1   0   0.003636
319. Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius (SNES)                     : 0.116391   01   1   0   0.003077
320. Eliminate Down                                      : 0.114406   01   0   0   0.018462
320. Dragon Breed                                        : 0.114406   01   0   0   0.018462
322. Sanvein                                             : 0.108884   01   0   0   0.016000
322. Dr Toppel's Adventure                               : 0.108884   01   0   0   0.016000
322. Star Soldier (GC/PS2)                               : 0.108884   01   0   0   0.016000
325. Halley's Comet                                      : 0.107504   01   0   0   0.015385
325. Andro Dunos II                                      : 0.107504   01   0   0   0.015385
325. Asteroids Deluxe                                    : 0.107504   01   0   0   0.015385
328. Xevious: Fardraut Saga                              : 0.104587   01   0   0   0.014085
329. DoDonPachi Daioujou DX (FPH)                        : 0.102902   01   0   0   0.013333
329. Senko no Ronde                                      : 0.102902   01   0   0   0.013333
331. Pop'n TwinBee                                       : 0.100602   01   0   0   0.012308
331. Sol Cresta                                          : 0.100602   01   0   0   0.012308
331. 1942                                                : 0.100602   01   0   0   0.012308
334. Eden's Aegis                                        : 0.098340   01   0   0   0.011299
334. Space Moth: Lunar Edition                           : 0.098340   01   0   0   0.011299
336. Star of Providence / Monolith                       : 0.094772   01   0   0   0.009709
337. Marchen Adventure Cotton 100%                       : 0.093699   01   0   0   0.009231
337. Storm Blade                                         : 0.093699   01   0   0   0.009231
337. Pocky & Rocky                                       : 0.093699   01   0   0   0.009231
337. Sky Kid                                             : 0.093699   01   0   0   0.009231
337. Astro Blaster                                       : 0.093699   01   0   0   0.009231
342. P-47: The Phantom Fighter                           : 0.093081   01   0   0   0.008955
343. Hacha Mecha Fighter                                 : 0.092670   01   0   0   0.008772
344. Parsec47                                            : 0.091764   01   0   0   0.008368
345. Warning Forever                                     : 0.090938   01   0   0   0.008000
346. Grand Cross: ReNovation                             : 0.089609   01   0   0   0.007407
346. Raiden V                                            : 0.089609   01   0   0   0.007407
348. Gun Ball                                            : 0.089487   01   0   0   0.007353
348. FixEight                                            : 0.089487   01   0   0   0.007353
350. Shoot the Bullet [Touhou 9.5]                       : 0.089131   01   0   0   0.007194
351. Metal Hawk                                          : 0.086797   01   0   0   0.006154
352. Bullet Hell Monday                                  : 0.085666   01   0   0   0.005650
352. The Adventures of Ten and Till                      : 0.085666   01   0   0   0.005650
352. Z-Warp                                              : 0.085666   01   0   0   0.005650
355. Area 88 / U.N. Squadron (ARC)                       : 0.085053   01   0   0   0.005376
355. Eco Fighters / Ultimate Ecology                     : 0.085053   01   0   0   0.005376
357. War of Aero                                         : 0.083675   01   0   0   0.004762
357. Hotdog Storm                                        : 0.083675   01   0   0   0.004762
357. Raiga: Strato Fighter                               : 0.083675   01   0   0   0.004762
360. CometStriker                                        : 0.083574   01   0   0   0.004717
361. Phelios                                             : 0.081180   01   0   0   0.003650
362. Space Invaders Part II                              : 0.079895   01   0   0   0.003077
362. Sinistar                                            : 0.079895   01   0   0   0.003077
362. Senjyo                                              : 0.079895   01   0   0   0.003077
362. Alpha Mission II                                    : 0.079895   01   0   0   0.003077
362. Dragon Spirit                                       : 0.079895   01   0   0   0.003077
367. Desert War                                          : 0.079790   01   0   0   0.003030
368. USAAF Mustang                                       : 0.079689   01   0   0   0.002985
369. Fast Striker                                        : 0.072993   00   2   0   0.000000
369. Vasara                                              : 0.072993   00   2   0   0.000000
369. Gaia Seed: Project Seed Trap                        : 0.072993   00   2   0   0.000000
372. Xelan Force                                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Jets'n'Guns 2                                       : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. BroodStar                                           : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Super Stardust Ultra                                : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Xeno Crisis                                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Cardinal Sins                                       : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Changeable Guardian Estique                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Gynoug                                              : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. P-47 II: The Freedom Star (MD)                      : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. GG Aleste                                           : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Ghost Blade                                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire                       : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Lilac 0                                             : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. 1944: The Loop Master                               : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Twin Tiger Shark                                    : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Overkill (DOS)                                      : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Ketsui Death Label                                  : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Fire Lancer                                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Space Seeker                                        : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Jamestown / Jamestown+                              : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Naious                                              : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Aero Fighters / Sonic Wings                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Air Duel                                            : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Steel Vampire                                       : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Nemesis (GB)                                        : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Thunder Force II (MD)                               : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Rigid Force Redux                                   : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Soldner X2: Final Prototype                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Black Bird                                          : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Pilot Kids                                          : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Night Raid                                          : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Ether Vapor                                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Twin Eagle II: The Rescue Mission                   : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Air Zonk                                            : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Otocky                                              : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Bullet Soul / Infinite Burst                        : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Akashicverse                                        : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Super Star Soldier                                  : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Cyber Core                                          : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Magical Chase                                       : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Nanostray                                           : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Nanostray 2                                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Nano Assault                                        : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Phoenix 2                                           : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Shoot 1Up                                           : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Prehistoric Isle 2                                  : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Salamander / Life Force (NES)                       : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Saint Dragon                                        : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Atomic Robo-kid                                     : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Nostradamus                                         : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Arcadia                                             : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Bouken Danshaku Don: The Lost Sunheart              : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Vacant Ark                                          : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Pocky & Rocky Reshrined                             : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
372. Star Hunter DX                                      : 0.036496   00   1   0   0.000000
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Nifty wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 10:28 amThe full results have been confirmed in order of full-results-ness, fully resulting in the following list table.
Thank you so much *bows* for all this crazy hard work >.<!~

So funny to see both Batsugun (8th) & Mushihimesama (2nd) have same number of votes lol!!! Really show that while Batsugun appear a lot... its on most player lower side of list!
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Varth @ 163, damn. BG great on tated Saturn, but don't forget to turn on Wait (check working battery/mem cart), or even harder!
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014. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu / 1.5 / Resurrection

118. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu Black Label

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Thank you Nifty, I love to see the bottom of the full list, old-school games like Defender, Scramble, Centipede, just wish they were higher on the list. :D
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Faith wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 12:18 pm 014. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu / 1.5 / Resurrection

118. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu Black Label

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My personal vote for DFK just included the variants, since they're all on both the 360 and Switch releases so I assume they're considered one package by Cave. Nobody thinks Mario Kart's battle modes or DLC need to be counted as a separate games in votes.
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Am I right in saying Batrider only one there in the top twenty, still never really had any kind of official release outside of arcades? Remember years ago on this forum, that guy from Hawaii had the board rigged up to a supergun, like almost turn of the century small images, just looked incredible, so ahead of time 8)

Mushi @ #2, interesting... for anyone not aware (doubtful on a forum like this) the game was physically released in Europe on Switch a few years ago :!:
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Sengoku Strider wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 8:42 pmMy personal vote for DFK just included the variants, since they're all on both the 360 and Switch releases so I assume they're considered one package by Cave. Nobody thinks Mario Kart's battle modes or DLC need to be counted as a separate games in votes.
I think... with Resurrection having both DFK + DFKBL... definitely can make argument that should just be combined these days >.<!~

But... also understand why it is not. They really are... very, very different games... even if sharing same graphics. And I think... strongest argument to continue to keep it separate is that anyone voting should read voting rules anyway lol... where Nifty does put what is counted separate and what is not ~_~"... but understand some player might miss it, or still prefer DFK over DFKBL no matter what!!~
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Faith wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 3:06 am
roker wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2026 2:58 am Batsugun eXA really takes it to the next level. If anyone has access to an eXA and even a minor interest in the game, you should play it.

Kyukyoku Tiger is Brilliant as is Outzone. Toaplan made plenty of bangers, but I don't think Batsugun Special is horrible or anything. I'm still working on multiple loops.
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R79 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 11:04 pm Am I right in saying Batrider only one there in the top twenty, still never really had any kind of official release outside of arcades?
Almost, it was released on the tate vert Astro Mini. Far from the M2 release we've all been waiting for.
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Surprised Mushi beat out Mushi Futari. Consensus of original Mushi seems to be mixed, but can't say I've ever seen anyone say something negative about Futari.
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jehu wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2026 2:11 pm Now, the era of strict technological limitation in handhelds is over, and, in retrospect, JSS is far and away the coolest artifact it produced. In principle, it can’t be supplanted by something coming decades later - it’ll keep its aura as an authentic product of the age forever, just as Recca forever will as the pinnacle of 8-bit ambition in STG graphics, sound, and gameplay.
That makes sense. I never even seen a Wonderswan in person, so the context here was lost on me.
Creamy Goodness wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 5:02 pm Surprised Mushi beat out Mushi Futari. Consensus of original Mushi seems to be mixed, but can't say I've ever seen anyone say something negative about Futari.
I can't speak for everyone else, but there reason I voted for the first Mushi over Futari was simply due to the fact that I never played Futari. Futari is stuck on 360 where as Mushi has Steam and Switch ports.
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