Third Person Action Game thread (DMC, NG, etc.)

[CMoon]

Well I'm glad they made them or I'd never have had a chance to check out this series.

[CMoon]

Man, when the hell is the Dark Souls DLC for the PS3 gonna get released (sorry, not buying it on the PC)? Starting to get anxious to make yet another build.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtiHkSK4 ... ture=g-u-u

[Ed Oscuro]

DSfix for Dark Souls on PC is now up to 0.7.5 and has intro skipping! Just to make you feel better about waiting for that PS3 DLC...actually, your post just reminded me to check the blog again, so I'm posting it now. It seems like it was only a couple days ago that he was saying there probably wouldn't be another version for a while.

[Op Intensify]

Man, when the hell is the Dark Souls DLC for the PS3 gonna get released

Winter. Staggered release to get people to buy the PC version.

There's apparently also going to be a boxed rerelease on consoles with the DLC included.

[CMoon]

I'd prefer a disc, but it all depends on how expensive it is.

[CMoon]

Beat Digital Devil Saga; instantly back to Dark Souls and a fourth build (planning on Dex.) I've actually never gone too far with NG+, so maybe I'll do that until the DLC comes out.

[sjewkestheloon]

Sounds fun cmoon. I am currently feeling my way through demon's souls very very slowly and I am finding it pretty damn tough, even more so than dark souls. Only finished 1-1 and 2-1 so far and I have explored 1-2 and 2-2 until the bosses which need practice. 3-1, I think, is evil with those bloody mind flayers and I think I need to get some magic up and running to help out a bit.

[evil_ash_xero]

The Souls games aren't third person ACTION games, but hey whatever.

[mrsmiley381]

So all I have with me at school is my JP 360 since it seemed silly to bring two of the same console. Does anyone know if a US Ninja Gaiden Black will work on a Japanese console? Apparently the Xbox Originals on Demand are region-locked but sometimes discs are not. I suppose I could also just buy the Japanese version as a download, but I don't know if that has an English menu option.

[Ed Oscuro]

I have a dumb question. "But there's no such thing as dumb questions!" It's a dumb question because this is making me feel slightly nostalgic.

So, did anybody play Dead to Rights: Retribution? It's selling at a very fair price now (like $10 new) and I am wondering about getting it sometime. There are the sequels to the original, but I think having played the original game was enough, really, to satisfy that need to see the original chintzy style.

First I gotta see if NG Black works on this here cheap 360 I got, of course.

[evil_ash_xero]

First I gotta see if NG Black works on this here cheap 360 I got, of course.

It works. I have it myself.

[Op Intensify]

As I've said before, NG Black has perfect 360 backwards compatibility. Not to mention 720p support.

[Ed Oscuro]

First I gotta see if NG Black works on this here cheap 360 I got, of course.

It works. I have it myself.

Yeah, well, you didn't drop my 360...

I didn't forget what you wrote earlier - about the 720p support - something nice to check out down the road. Would have to buy cables for that, though.

[iconoclast]

So EDF4 was confirmed for PS3/360 earlier, along with online multiplayer. And they just released some screenshots: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201209/13020991.html

Rejoice!

[mrsmiley381]

Well, it looks like Ninja Gaiden Black is indeed region-locked against working on a Japanese 360. I guess I'll just play Sigma for now.

[Drum]

We need some links to superplays in this thread, specifically for Shinobi PS2, Bayonetta and Ninja Gaiden Black.

[BIL]

I don't know of any professional or doujin superplays for Shinobi, but there's this old clip of Shinobier artfully taking out the boss that made a thousand bad players weep, sans ninpo. There are tons of random Japanese speedruns / ranking runs around the internet for both Shinobi and Kunoichi, I don't feel like digging up bookmarks right now though.

[iconoclast]

I don't know any good Bayonetta/NGB videos off the top of my head, but JTB123 put some Ninja Gaiden II survival videos on his youtube channel. He has good scores with the Dragon Sword, Talons, BotA, Tonfa, and Lunar, complete with live commentary: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6973310007C2E6E1

CannikinX also posted a bunch of good videos, but I don't think they have commentary.

[Obiwanshinobi]

The most flashy Kunoichi/Nightshade and Shinobi vids I've seen on YouTube are speedruns, but those are technically "wrong" and end with low ranks... Very, very flashy, though.
Part of the games' problem with the critics is not pimpimg their (games') essence up enough. Interestingly, I found F-Zero GX to be similar in that respect. Before that story event where I had to eliminate pretty much every vehicle on track, I was unaware of the attacking's badassness and how much of a vehicular combat game it can be. Could use more sensual "pat on the back" when you do well.
I'm quite obsessed with a number of Sega games from that particular period, when former Sega kids kept mourning over Dreamcast, whereas Sega was hard at work on awesome stuff that deserved better sales.

[Op Intensify]

Played through Genma Onimusha recently, the evolutionary link between the classic Resident Evils and Devil May Cry. It's quite strange, but interesting to have typical hack-and-slash mechanics along with tank controls and RE-style prerendered environments. It's a short game--took me less than 8 hours--though I appreciated that there was no padding whatsoever. The pacing and focus are razor sharp, with only a handful of bullshit puzzles to stall things. I'd respectfully classify it as a "gaming novella." There's a OHKO counter move that's quite difficult to pull off, but enemies killed by it will drop a lot more red orbs, which reduces the grind (you're actually required to level up your weapons to get through certain doors). The game also has the best classical-Japanese-inspired soundtrack of any game I've heard; all the traditional instruments are real.

Unfortunately I felt it was too easy, with the bosses and tougher enemies being easily cheesed by my extensive stash of fire arrows, shotgun shells, magic energy, and green orb-powered invincibility. There aren't any extra difficulty settings, either, so the only remaining challenge is a Bloody Palace-like endurance round. I've got the sequel ordered, which has a reputation for being hard as balls, so we'll see how much of an improvement it was. The series apparently went to shit with the fourth game (Dawn of Dreams), so I'm not bothering with that one.

The idea for DMC actually came from a glitch observed when developing Onimusha that allowed enemies to be juggled.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Onimusha 2 isn't very hard on Normal, but some players got so hooked on issening in 1 (with the "ordinary" sword to make things harder) that Capcom put an unlockable "Issen" mode in 2. In this mode issening is the ONLY way to kill enemies, which, I assume, makes the game pretty hard indeed.
2 is, however, longer than 1 and beautiful at that (on a proper setup). It's a shame such engines in action adventure games haven't been utilised since Onimusha 2 and two Residents for the 'Cube. Granted, higher resolutions would be harder to work with for the background artists, but full 3D is also more labour-consuming these days.

[CMoon]

They should put those Onimusha games out on the psn. I used to have them on the ps2, but most of my games were stolen.

[Obiwanshinobi]

How about you kill some terminally ill, slowly moving people instead? In a video game, just to stay on the safe side.
I give RE4 a spin for The Mercenaries now and then, but the SS vibe foreplay gave me has never completely waned. It's like practicing on villagers in Diablo before stepping down into the dungeons. In Dead Space and Resident Evil of yore they had already died anyways. In Gun.Smoke they are no good by choice. When I'm being naughty in GTA, the cops arrive, but in RE4 the cops get undone first and I can be naughty all I want. What's the reason behind killng the villagers anyway, other than getting the loot they leave behind having shuffled off this mortal coil? It's not like I can't just trot away in most situations. The game's got a plot and protagonist, therefore the question "What is my motivation?" can be reasonably asked.

[Op Intensify]

So that Yaiba game Inafune's been working on? It's actually Ninja Gaiden Z. Z stands for "zombies," apparently, who are still the go-to enemies for uncreative game developers looking for easy attention. Somehow people refer to "zombie games" now as if that was an actual genre.

It's a sidestory with a new main character, can we call it Ninja Gaiden Gaiden?

I have a strong suspicion that the NG license was forced on this when Koei Tecmo picked up publishing duties. Zombies and ninjas don't mix. And just watch it turn out to be another Wii U exclusive.

[Ed Oscuro]

Zombies and ninjas don't mix.

So say the ninjas...zombies couldn't be made to comment. (The police forces in NG1 get sorta-zombified, and there are zombie-like critters all over Ninja Gaiden 3 on the NES.)

Fingers crossed...it doesn't look like Ninja Gaiden although it could be interesting. Hoping for an absence of shitty characters who need Zombrex.

Also, the Vigoor empire was a much better locale than...whatever the fuck that's supposed to be. L4D and Ninja Blade had better looks too, at least according to my hatred of cel-shaded nonsense.

[iconoclast]

Yaiba is being developed by Team Ninja Dog & Spark Unlimited, with Inafune at the helm... as someone on another forum said, that's pretty much a Voltron of failure.

Anyway, not sure if you'd call this a 'superplay', but I'm doing a high-scoring Pure Platinum run through Non-Stop Infinite Climax in Bayonetta if anyone wants to check it out: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... ature=plcp

[EmperorIng]

I've been thinking of getting P.N. 03 for the Gamecube, since it's dirt cheap and I'm looking into growing my GC collection.

I know it got a lot of bad reviews, but then again, most if not all reviewers are fucking idiots, and I do like a good arcade-style action shooting game.

Can anyone recommend it? Especially if the price going for the game is in the $7 range?

[Op Intensify]

Those reviewers were casual lamebrains who played it on Easy. PN03 is an amazing game with an addictive DDP-like chain scoring system. It's the full realization of a top-down run and gun like Mercs or Shock Troopers in 3D, and so much more. Buy it straight away.

It is in fact a complete walk in the park on Easy, though anything but on the other difficulties.

For true shmupping masochism, you can unlock a thong suit that has the most powerful stats in the game, but can only take one hit.

[EmperorIng]

See, I had a feeling it was good. I'll have to pick it up when I get paid next week. I'm trying to expand the GC collection now because experience with the Saturn and DC have taught me that in a couple years these games are going to be a pain in the ass to find, and about $20 more expensive!

It just reminds me when God Hand got a 3/10 on IGN.
Biggest case of "missing the fucking point" ever.
Especially with the best 3D beat-em-up ever made! : D

[Op Intensify]

IGN has since acknowledged their error in that God Hand review. IIRC, they gave it the #100 spot in a "top 100 games of the past generation" list.

Obviously, it deserves far higher, but that's not the point.