Arcade: Mushihimesama Cave Matsuri ver 1.5 (2011)

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

It takes coins. Also if they sell it much lower it might set a price precedent for future boards that they don't want. I doubt many of their games started out for sale for less than this, if any. Maybe puzzle games, not sure.

[TonK]

I think it looks really cool.

Wonder if they'll release any other tweaked versions?

I'd be interested in a crazy cool Deathsmiles tweak...

Good luck to whoever gets this... Definitely a cool item to have.

[emphatic]

I think it looks really cool.

+1

[Strider77]

Such bitter sweat news, I want it badly... can't afford the PCB but I want it regardless. I lie in hope of a 360 port. I am shocked and really hope to get a chance to play it.

Even though I'll never own either, I hope Cave never ever port this or the AK home version to consoles - ever

Skykid that's dumb... home ports have always been around. Screw the collector value thing (I put myself in the collector group mind you). I don't frown on any of my higher priced games getting re-issued. Don't by games for exclusive reasons or to play stock market.

[dan76]

I guess anyone thinking of buying it should be aware that a home port may appear at some point in the future. If you do this and still want it - get it. You'll probably be buying it for the right reason.

I'd also like them to release everything - couldn't give a toss about limited editions/collectors etc. Games are made for playing. If this brings about enough interest in Mushi to get them porting the original arcade game then it's a good thing - I'll be snapping it up for £60.

This news was enough to get me to fire up the old PS2 port and remember how great the game is (and how awful the port looks...)

[ptoing]

It would be nice if these gets a port in whatever shape together with the original Mushi (which was good fun imo to play for survival, not score tho)

How does the scoring in this work anyway?

Though I have to say that my guess is we wont be seeing ports of this (or the AK LE stuff), because they seem to be catered to collectors more or less.
Saying that Guwange Blue or MMP Matsuri was brought to home users is no valid argument here since neither of those was on sale ever (or did I miss something here)

But who knows, if Cave thinks they need some more cash, it might well happen anyway.

[Jockel]

I think it looks really cool.

+1

Source?

[mesh control]

MS Paint

[tomatous]

Well, the image is reflected in the CP.. Must be some real nice MS paint skills.

[Elixir]

If Emphatic has a way of playing 360 on a cab, he has a way of putting a jpeg on a USB drive to the 360. It's the exact same photo from the original post.

Silly Jockel, I thought it was pretty obvious.

[TonK]

I think it looks really cool.

+1

I reported this post.

For the level of AWESOMENESS.

good show ol boy.

[Acid King]

You don't think porting it as a $10 download would be disrespectful to the people who ponied up the cash for it?

They're different markets and different consumers. A port wouldn't be any more disrespectful to PCB owners than digital mp3 releases are to people who shell out $50 or more for LPs and that's ignoring the fact that the differences between PCB and port are usually more meaningful than the differences between LPs and mp3s.

[Sumez]

how is that price tag justified?

Arcade ops make money on the game. It's business.

The AK home PCB however......

[Skykid]

how is that price tag justified?

Arcade ops make money on the game. It's business.

The AK home PCB however......

Exactly. Cave aren't stupid. They take gross advantage of the rabid collector market, but when it suits them have no hesitation in undermining those people. To me that's good business, but bad taste.

I, as much as everyone else, would love to get ports of this and AK home ver cos I'll never get my hands on them any other way - but at the same time I'd love to see Cave show a bit of decorum for once.

[emphatic]

Source?

XBox 360 showing the picture from the CAVE shop.

[Jockel]

Source?

XBox 360 showing the picture from the CAVE shop.

I plain forgot about the Xbox's ability to display media files

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

how is that price tag justified?

Arcade ops make money on the game. It's business.

The AK home PCB however......

Exactly. Cave aren't stupid. They take gross advantage of the rabid collector market, but when it suits them have no hesitation in undermining those people. To me that's good business, but bad taste.

I think if they did something like reselling a rare board like Ibara Black Label, that would be undermining collectors. When they resell instruction sheets it's more a matter of you guys overvalued paper. Just my 2 cents. It's frigging paper and suction cups.

[Skykid]

I think if they did something like reselling a rare board like Ibara Black Label, that would be undermining collectors. When they resell instruction sheets it's more a matter of you guys overvalued paper. Just my 2 cents. It's frigging paper and suction cups.

Sure, like Action Comics number one is just paper and staples.

I don't give a crap how many times they reprint stuff, as long as they mark it somehow as a reprint. If it had spent ten years trading on YHJ for $2 a piece, who gives a shit, but when your paraphernalia is going for $300 it's kind of a no-brainer not to screw everyone.

Cave's methodology is very broken and very un-Japanese. In Shibuya it's common to find (damn expensive) clothing stores that sell garments in limited series. There's no way those guys are reprinting the same tees or whatnot as soon as you leave the store, because the desirability of their stock is part of their reputation.

[emphatic]

The Haute Couture of gaming.

[Skykid]

The Haute Couture of gaming.

Well whatever you like. Expensive is expensive is expensive. :shrugs:

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

I think if they did something like reselling a rare board like Ibara Black Label, that would be undermining collectors. When they resell instruction sheets it's more a matter of you guys overvalued paper. Just my 2 cents. It's frigging paper and suction cups.

Sure, like Action Comics number one is just paper and staples.

OK, point received. I still think it's all way overvalued (the Cave extras). None of it is one of a kind or 2 of a kind or very old like a 100 year old comic.

[Skykid]

I think if they did something like reselling a rare board like Ibara Black Label, that would be undermining collectors. When they resell instruction sheets it's more a matter of you guys overvalued paper. Just my 2 cents. It's frigging paper and suction cups.

Sure, like Action Comics number one is just paper and staples.

OK, point received. I still think it's all way overvalued (the Cave extras). None of it is one of a kind or 2 of a kind

Sure, in reality it's just worthless tat. It's scarcity + consumer demand that sets the value of said tat.
Regardless, Cave had a choice: either maintain the value associated with their goods or destroy it. They chose the latter.

[Special World]

If I had the money I would be perfectly fine with buying a super-expensive PCB even if I KNEW that a port was coming out a year later.

Just sayin.

PCBs may literally be devalued when a port arrives, but some collectors actually want the PCB. To those people their product has not been devalued. It is a different product. It is the "ideal" version.

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

Well it's not all their goods, it's just a few paper items, and it's not destroyed, just lowered. A kit is still worth more with the extras I'm sure. As far as the ports killing value, that's mostly guesswork. I didn't see the price of MMP lower when the port came out, and I didn't see the price of Ketsui lower when it got emulated. But maybe they did and I wasn't paying attention at the right times. The price of an Akai Katana pcb has actually gone up in the last month from the little I've seen it.

[Skykid]

Well it's not all their goods, it's just a few paper items, and it's not destroyed, just lowered. A kit is still worth more with the extras I'm sure. As far as the ports killing value, that's mostly guesswork. I didn't see the price of MMP lower when the port came out, and I didn't see the price of Ketsui lower when it got emulated. But maybe they did and I wasn't paying attention at the right times. The price of an Akai Katana pcb has actually gone up in the last month from the little I've seen it.

I don't think ports have had a seriously detrimental effect on PCB values. I know Ketsui kits got off the pedestal and stepped down by a couple hundred ££, but nothing else fell particularly significantly.

It's the paper rubbish (posters, kit arts etc etc) that took the real pounding. DDP DOJ BL posters etc.

[Taylor]

Man, this limited edition arcade board is priced like a limtied edition arcade board.

[BPzeBanshee]

Man, this limited edition arcade board is priced like a limtied edition arcade board.

Yeah, cause limtied edition arcade boards are totally dawg mate.

Taylor's right on this one though - its what it is. If you don't like it don't buy it.
If you buy it, expect the price to be dropped in a year and expect to be feeling too close for comfort when we see it MAMEd.

[Sumez]

Too far away for comfort

[apple arcade]

need vids

[Jockel]

Man, this limited edition arcade board is priced like a limtied edition arcade board.

Yeah, cause limtied edition arcade boards are totally dawg mate.

Dude, he just made a typo, get over it!
If you don't stop, I'll tie your your fucking lims up!
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