Batsugun's Sound Has Finally Been Emulated

[renardqueenston]

definitely excited for the next available build

[esreveR]

Wow, it seems that the later versions of MAME are going to solve all our shmupping needs!

I nearly forgot that Raiden IV isn't emulated.

[Drum]

Ok, so I downloaded the latest MAME and the graphics and music are working, but now I'm sad because I don't really like the music and the graphics seem like kind of a downgrade - when everything is glitched to shit the details like the sea turtles and sharks really stand out. I liked the Batsugun in my mind better, but I guess you can never go back :cry

Also, I can't believe I still can't get Warzard to work.

[captpain]

edit disregard

[Zeron]

Aww yeahhh


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ijz3-7l_A4

[Despatche]

Sounds great. I'm more interested in V-V, obviously; that also sounds great. However, Dogyuun sounds strange: Batsugun, V-V, and Fixeight all sound like their printed soundtrack counterparts; Dogyuun seems "muffled", like I'm listening to radio quality. Is this really how it was programmed?

Now I'm sad because I don't really like the music and the graphics seem like kind of a downgrade - when everything is glitched to shit the details like the sea turtles and sharks really stand out.

The graphics have been fixed for a while. Only the sound was fixed with this release.

[IseeThings]

Sounds great. I'm more interested in V-V, obviously; that also sounds great. However, Dogyuun sounds strange: Batsugun, V-V, and Fixeight all sound like their printed soundtrack counterparts; Dogyuun seems "muffled", like I'm listening to radio quality. Is this really how it was programmed?

Now I'm sad because I don't really like the music and the graphics seem like kind of a downgrade - when everything is glitched to shit the details like the sea turtles and sharks really stand out.

The graphics have been fixed for a while. Only the sound was fixed with this release.

Dogyuun mixes in more actual samples from the OKI for the music, the rest are based more heavily on the YM chip (V-V only has the YM chip)

Sounds generated by the OKI are generally of a bit lower quality than sounds generated by the YM chips, which might be why it sounds more 'muffled'

It isn't a problem with the sound emulation tho.

As stressed ( http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/ )
if you want proper sound on the other Toaplan games (Vimana, Fire Shark, Teki Paki, Ghox, Whoopee) people are going to have to donate to have the chips done.

We've done what we can now.

[charlie chong]

thanks for all your work!

[Drum]

Now I'm sad because I don't really like the music and the graphics seem like kind of a downgrade - when everything is glitched to shit the details like the sea turtles and sharks really stand out.

The graphics have been fixed for a while. Only the sound was fixed with this release.

Yeah, I know - see me being a retard early in the thread. Also, that stuff about me liking the graphics/sound more before? Me being a retard.

[AWJ]

Sounds great. I'm more interested in V-V, obviously; that also sounds great. However, Dogyuun sounds strange: Batsugun, V-V, and Fixeight all sound like their printed soundtrack counterparts; Dogyuun seems "muffled", like I'm listening to radio quality. Is this really how it was programmed?

Game soundtrack CDs are processed (filtered, equalized, etc.) to sound better.

[Mortificator]

Also, I can't believe I still can't get Warzard to work.

Try putting the sets for both the parent and clone (warzard.zip and redeartn.zip) in your ROMs folder and running the clone.

[Despatche]

Game soundtrack CDs are processed (filtered, equalized, etc.) to sound better.

That's what one would think. Yet:

Batsugun, V-V, and Fixeight all sound like their printed soundtrack counterparts

So I think it's reasonable to expect the same from Dogyuun.

[austere]

There is no reason you should expect them all to follow the same trend. They can filter the CD Audio in many ways without you even noticing much of a difference.

[Despatche]

Believe it or not, it's pretty obvious that I do have a reason by what you've just said.

[AWJ]

Game soundtrack CDs are processed (filtered, equalized, etc.) to sound better.

That's what one would think. Yet:

Batsugun, V-V, and Fixeight all sound like their printed soundtrack counterparts

So I think it's reasonable to expect the same from Dogyuun.

I seem to recall reading in a 2ch thread that Dogyuun's was the last Toaplan OST to be professionally recorded and postprocessed; because of Toaplan's financial difficulties their last few OST releases were just recorded raw straight off of the PCBs.

[Despatche]

That's interesting, yet doesn't explain things like Snow Bros., Out Zone, Tatsujin Oh, and... Fixeight (it was released before Dogyuun). That, and Scitron Label was doing pretty well until the end of the '90s.

edit: I'd also like to point out that this isn't even a problem; the problem is that Dogyuun's sound quality is funny, especially in comparison to previously-released and later-released games. In addition to game-breaking bugs and sloppy design throughout, I honestly believe that Dogyuun was simply rushed.