Einhander

J5983 · Post by **J5983** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:43 am

You want to see them? The annoying part is that it doesn't distinguish by difficulty, just by ship. Who knows why.

Carmen · Post by **Carmen** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:05 am

Well, I don't know if everyone else will agree, but I think it would be a cool idea as a competition (hint hint). You're right, its sort of silly that they distinguish by ship BUT not by difficulty. I have to tally mines down (I keep a chart with all my high scores, but that section is a little outdated), but I'll do that soon. I'd love to see other peoples.

J5983 · Post by **J5983** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:47 am

Code: Select all

Stage    Top Score    Subtotal
1        3484980      3053100
2        5064400      7672200
3        7543100      15215300
4        3711710      17910640
5        3878200      21788840

The subtotal is for the 23M score. I'm pretty sure you can get 4M on 1, while 4 and 5 are just survival scores.

Carmen · Post by **Carmen** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:08 am

Those are quite good! So far I only have bests for the first three course, as I haven't been able to beat the fourth stage (without Credits). Not like they would be good anyway.

(Astraea-1... I assume all of yours are Endimion-2?)

1st. 3437290
2st. 5054100
3st. 6980700

I think it is also possible to get CLOSE to 4m in stage one, though I don't know if its possible to get higher. As for 2st., you probably know you need to get a x16 on the boss, which isn't horrible easy to do. My 3st. one could be better if I could manage to get a x16 on the stage boss there...

Carmen · Post by **Carmen** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:11 am

By the way, maybe we should combine the no weapon/starting weapon lists? As soon as somebody earns an arm or two, they'll always use that, and even so, the list will show that they don't use a starting arm?

J5983 · Post by **J5983** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:17 am

Carmen wrote:By the way, maybe we should combine the no weapon/starting weapon lists? As soon as somebody earns an arm or two, they'll always use that, and even so, the list will show that they don't use a starting arm?

Bad idea. There's a huge difference. For example, dying on stage 4 or stage 5 boss with no weapon is REALLY painful. Most of us aren't 1-lifers.

Carmen · Post by **Carmen** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:31 pm

Yea, I see what you mean. Still, that would make high scores made without any arms even more impressive, I think? For example, Buha's score would seem even better on the 'regular' ladder as s/he would rank higher then people who started with an arm (and a powerful arm at that).

J5983 · Post by **J5983** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:30 pm

I don't know...why not just keep it separate? I'll try and submit a score for it soon so it doesn't look so empty.

Post by **Icarus** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:38 pm

The score tables will remain as they are, as the difference between a credit played with a selected Gunpod to start, and a credit played without any selected Gunpod is huge. Scores can differ by several millions, and players using a Gunpod to start have a large advantage over the "naked ship" players, as they have an easier time recovering from death, and taking down bosses.

Unfortunately, with the differences between the Japanese and NA versions adding to the pile, it means there is a large amount of tables that need to be maintained.

I would like to see an ALL done without a starting Gunpod, though ^_-

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:50 am

Normal:
12,988,940 - Rob - ? - EndyII - GRENADE - [US]

Hooray for old file still being there. Don't know the stage.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:04 am

*updated*

Keep 'em coming, guys ^_^

AOTD3025 · Post by **AOTD3025** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:47 pm

HARD DIFFICULTY
12,673,820 - AOTD3025 - 4 - Endymion Mk. II - FLASH - [JPN]

No Wasps at the beginning of L4. Argh . . .

Fun things to do with Hedgehogs:

-Towards the end of L4 where there's a bunch of enemy ships on pylons on the ceiling, try to score a 16X by quickly creating a line of Hedgehogs and destroying all of (or nearly all of) the things simultaneously..

-Against Ausf De Gestell (gorilla-like boss midway through L5), try leaving a little surprise in the spot where it's going to land.

-AOTD3025

Carmen · Post by **Carmen** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:34 pm

Not a new score, not yet sadly, but I just picked up the Japanese version of the game (I had sold the US version a year or so ago), and wow, you won't believe how different it is! Well, its really not that different (I haven't played it too much yet though) but whoever said you can pretty much just use Wasps or Cannons exclusivly wasn't joking!

Hopefully new scores to help fill up the table a little more as I spend some time on it but it'll have to wait until I 1cc Gradius V!

Moleculoman · Post by **Moleculoman** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:47 am

AOTD3025 wrote:The Spreader seems to have a fixed rate of fire in the Japanese version. In other words, it doesn't matter whether you're close or far from a target; no matter how quickly you tap the fire button, you'll get a constant rate of fire.

Actually, in the JPN version, the Spreader's rate of fire does change depending on the distance from the target/how far up you are on the screen.

Anyway, my scores:

HARD DIFFICULTY
18,849,510 - Moleculoman - 6 - Astraea - Cannon/Flash - [JPN]

HARD DIFFICULTY
62,415,720 - Moleculoman - 7 - Selene - Cannon/Flash - [JPN]

Carmen · Post by **Carmen** » Wed May 16, 2007 2:03 am

Wow, those are really good! I'm sort of embarassed to post my own new scores now...

Anyway this is from the Japanese version...

8 909 700 - Carmen - 4 - Astraea-1 - JUNO/RIOT

Very tough game... incredibly punishing and at times it seems you need the improvisational skills of a jazz master to do well!

Moleculoman · Post by **Moleculoman** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:56 pm

Thanks. I wish I'd gotten further than stg 6, to get more points.

Moleculoman · Post by **Moleculoman** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:22 pm

Heh..I see the scores haven't been updated. In any case, I came across another slick Einhander fansite that has a scoreboard. I'll just say that the scores posted there are, quite honestly.....unbelievable, but in a good way.

9234:Einhander Unofficial Fansite

The top score is 74 million or so. The player used the Astraea Mk. I on HARD. Being a fellow Astraea player, it baffles me how such a feat can be accomplished. I can come close too/match those scores, but only using the Astraea Mk. II (the Selene). To the player's credit, there is a readable screen shot provided that shows the score in the battle record stat page for the game, shown when you click on the score.

In most cases I'd give the player the benefit of the doubt. You can never rule out an emulator being used, or a cheat device, but it really doesn't seem like the case here. It definitely sets a high bar for players to shoot for!

Carmen · Post by **Carmen** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:42 am

Yea, no love for Einhaender recently. Though I shouldn't be talking, I haven't touched it in months.

But that is a fantastic site you recommended! Those scores are quite high, and the strategy page is really extensive. And did you see the SD caricatures of the enemies/bosses? Awesome!

Moleculoman · Post by **Moleculoman** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:16 pm

Indeed. My avatar is taken from a quiz on the Einhander database. They have similiar caricatures of the bosses. A bit more detailed than the Code 9234 site.

Moleculoman · Post by **Moleculoman** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:58 am

Carmen wrote:I think it is also possible to get CLOSE to 4m in stage one, though I don't know if its possible to get higher.

It's possible to get over 4 million with the Astraea Mk. II (Selene), and the Astraea Mk. I. I'd tentatively say you maybe able to get 5 mil. Probably have to break your neck to top 4 mil with the Endymion's, but definitely looks doable on paper.

As for tech points, from a lot of play throughs, the whole checkpoint theory sounds plausible. Only thing I can say for sure is that you can still receive an S rank for Tech points if you only die once or twice during the the latter stages (6 & 7) and beat the game.

Lastly, I made a good run today. Topped my old Selene score. A scoreboard for that fighter should be added as well.

HARD DIFFICULTY
78,151,620 - Moleculoman - 7 - Selene - Cannon/Flash - [JPN]

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